Havnt been able to see a Avs game yet so I cant say anything about how he has looked but reading this thread makes a happy one. I was thinking to myself the other day that the Avs have no captain and not sure if they are going to name one this year? Are they seeing if Landeskog has what it takes? Since he's been raved about his leadership qualities etc..
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Landeskog is for sure a captain for the future but making him a captain now as an 18 years old would be stupid/unnecessary. Hejduk, Duchene or Statsny are my choices, preferably Hejduk even though I don't know much enough of his leadership talent, but it feels right.
I would guess EJ may give Landeskog some competition for the title in the future but Landeskog is probably the more natural leader.
I don't think Sweden ever has had player with such natural leadership talent as Landeskog. For me he is the perfect mix between Swedish and North American mentality and style of playing hockey.
I see him as captain material without a doubt, but he'll have to beat out O'Reilly who should get the C if you ask me.
I think he's gotten into the swing of things now. Looking like a real NHL player and he's only going to get better.
As far as captaincy goes it's not necessary to make him captain now, he's 18 and being a captain means commanding the respect of your team, he's yet to prove himself fully to them yet so there's no point.
Lando is playing a lot better than I thought he would be in his first few games. Haven't seen much dangling and shooting skill that guys had that were taken after him, but he plays a complete game all game long which is proving to be more valuable.
I doubt he'll be a superstar, but should be all star material in a few years. I'd like to see him work on puck control and sniper shot while in traffic like foppa had. But I'll be ok if his game is similar to corey perry and clean up all garbage near the net.
I see him as captain material without a doubt, but he'll have to beat out O'Reilly who should get the C if you ask me.
Well, good for Avalanche having several young players with natural leader skills! :-)
I strongly believe Landeskog is the best talent Sweden ever have had talking captain material though. This includes other Swedish captains like Sundin, Lidstrom, Norstrom and Alfredsson.
Landeskog is simply way more outspoken, confident and better suited to North American leadership style, totally fluent in English helps too. Finally and not to forget, his give it all attitude on the ice is the one you want a captain to have. Lidstrom may be a tough one, but other than that, definately. Lidstrom is legendary but I really think he is a bit too quiet type of person for being a captain, at least for an NHL team, for Swedish national team... perfect.
Captaincy is to often given out to players as some kind of trophy or apprecitation thing. It should be given to the player with best natural leader skills, not necessary the best point producing player on the team.
We'll see and for me it's not that important. I would rather see Landeskog winning the Art Ross and the Conn Smythe trophies than being the team captain.
They should give it to the Duke so that when he retires, Lando can take his place. Giving it to,say, Stastny, would lock the captain spot up for a very ling time
Well, good for Avalanche having several young players with natural leader skills! :-)
I strongly believe Landeskog is the best talent Sweden ever have had talking captain material though. This includes other Swedish captains like Sundin, Lidstrom, Norstrom and Alfredsson.
Landeskog is simply way more outspoken, confident and better suited to North American leadership style, totally fluent in English helps too. Finally and not to forget, his give it all attitude on the ice is the one you want a captain to have. Lidstrom may be a tough one, but other than that, definately. Lidstrom is legendary but I really think he is a bit too quiet type of person for being a captain, at least for an NHL team, for Swedish national team... perfect.
Captaincy is to often given out to players as some kind of trophy or apprecitation thing. It should be given to the player with best natural leader skills, not necessary the best point producing player on the team.
We'll see and for me it's not that important. I would rather see Landeskog winning the Art Ross and the Conn Smythe trophies than being the team captain.
Of course it's good for Avs to have two young guys like Radar and Landeskog (I'm going to admit that I tought how Larsson is a better choice, but Landeskog is sure making me feel foolish right now and I hope that continues).
And on the bolded part, that's why I want O'Reilly as captain, it's hard for me to find a more dedicated player on the Avs roster (EJ puts to much pressure on himself), plus he's been a captain on every team he ever played for and he's a born leader (just like Landeskog).
Of course it's good for Avs to have two young guys like Radar and Landeskog (I'm going to admit that I tought how Larsson is a better choice, but Landeskog is sure making me feel foolish right now and I hope that continues).
And on the bolded part, that's why I want O'Reilly as captain, it's hard for me to find a more dedicated player on the Avs roster (EJ puts to much pressure on himself), plus he's been a captain on every team he ever played for and he's a born leader (just like Landeskog).
Duchene - Statsny - EJ - Varmalov - Lando - Radar
I know it's way to early but the Avalanche rebuild is looking good. :-)
Nothing wrong with Larsson at all but I think Landeskog was a better piece of the puzzle for the Avalanche. My guess is that both teams will be happy with their picks.
Avalanche look big and strong defensively?
Anyway, two very different kind of players.
As a Swede I'm following Larsson too of course. The only question mark I have is his offensive production, we'll have to wait and see. His defensive play is already world class, extremely poised and mature.
Larsson may be the next coming of Lidstrom but it's a bit too early to say.
Larsson took a more defensive role in Sweden last season playing with extremely offensive d-men like Rundblad and Erixon, his point production was rather low. Larsson wasn't even part of their first PP unit.
If the Devils keep playing Larsson on the first PP unit points have to come or he will be moved (from first PP unit).
Nothing wrong with Larsson at all but I think Landeskog was a better piece of the puzzle for the Avalanche. My guess is that both teams will be happy with their picks.
Avalanche look big and strong defensively?
Anyway, two very different kind of players.
As a Swede I'm following Larsson too of course. The only question mark I have is his offensive production, we'll have to wait and see. His defensive play is already world class, extremely poised and mature.
Larsson may be the next coming of Lidstrom but it's a bit too early to say.
Larsson took a more defensive role in Sweden last season playing with extremely offensive d-men like Rundblad and Erixon, his point production was rather low. Larsson wasn't even part of their first PP unit.
If the Devils keep playing Larsson on the first PP unit points have to come or he will be moved (from first PP unit).
Though I share your enthusiasm over Landeskog (I followed him with interest since his Djugarden days) I think you might wanna be a little more careful in comparing him and other young Swedes to the likes of Lidstrom and Sundin. Both in terms of captaincy qualities as well as players, you are talking of some of the NHL all times greats with looooong careers. But yeah...it will be VERY interesting to follow his career. Let's just hope that his physical style doesn't take too much of a toll and cuts seasons, or even worse - his career, short.
Though I share your enthusiasm over Landeskog (I followed him with interest since his Djugarden days) I think you might wanna be a little more careful in comparing him and other young Swedes to the likes of Lidstrom and Sundin. Both in terms of captaincy qualities as well as players, you are talking of some of the NHL all times greats with looooong careers. But yeah...it will be VERY interesting to follow his career. Let's just hope that his physical style doesn't take too much of a toll and cuts seasons, or even worse - his career, short.
I may be a bit too optimistic but we are talking about one of the best swedish young talents ever. We can hopefully agree about that? Talking about Swedish powerforwards... Renberg 2.0? ;-)
Some may prefer a guy with more dangles and the 'wow factor,' but Gabriel Landeskog wins you hockey games.
Absolutely incredible hockey sense and intelligence for a teenager in the best league in the world. His forechecking, cycling, positioning, active stick, drive to the net, everything... he's just got all the tools. Really is a coach's dream.
Curse you Avs for trading Anderson for Elliott last season. Deralied the Sens tank effort, and Elliott Landed the skog for you guys. I watched him play against the Sens for the first time last night and was impressed. Good luck for the season.
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Curse you Avs for trading Anderson for Elliott last season. Deralied the Sens tank effort, and Elliott Landed the skog for you guys. I watched him play against the Sens for the first time last night and was impressed. Good luck for the season.
Bench Anderson, and I'll be able to wish you good luck, too.
Glad to see people starting to say that he's becoming one of their favorite players. Knew it wouldn't take long. With that being said, he's even surprising me with how well he's adapted.
It took Duchene a long time to seem this comfortable.
Glad to see people starting to say that he's becoming one of their favorite players. Knew it wouldn't take long. With that being said, he's even surprising me with how well he's adapted.
It took Duchene a long time to seem this comfortable.
It really seems like the Avs now have a "type," and I am liking the results so far.
I'll admit that I wanted Larsson first. Still think that in 3 years Larsson + EJ would be one of the best defenses in the league especially combined with Elliot, Quincey, and Barrie.
Anyways, Landy was my second choice, but he is showing that he should have been my first choice. This kid is the exact type of player the Avs need. His goal last night was mighty impressive for an 18 year old. The strength, talent, and willingness to get to where he needed to be was just impressive. He plays a simple game which makes you question his talent, but if you watch him closely you realize it is more by choice than lack of skill. As he gets more confortable you will see him start to make some more moves instead of the simple play.
I'll admit that I wanted Larsson first. Still think that in 3 years Larsson + EJ would be one of the best defenses in the league especially combined with Elliot, Quincey, and Barrie.
Anyways, Landy was my second choice, but he is showing that he should have been my first choice. This kid is the exact type of player the Avs need. His goal last night was mighty impressive for an 18 year old. The strength, talent, and willingness to get to where he needed to be was just impressive. He plays a simple game which makes you question his talent, but if you watch him closely you realize it is more by choice than lack of skill. As he gets more confortable you will see him start to make some more moves instead of the simple play.
Are you saying that RNH wasn't one of your first choices? Or that you knew RNH was going to Edm and that Larsson was your first choice of who was left?
Are you saying that RNH wasn't one of your first choices? Or that you knew RNH was going to Edm and that Larsson was your first choice of who was left?
RNH has some sweet skills and great upside and all, but to be honest I still think Lando and Larsson do more for the Avs organization than RNH would. We don't really need another high-skill center on a team that's got Duchene, Staz and a breaking out O'Reilly. *shrug* but I'm willing to admit that I might be short selling RNH's ceiling.
RNH has some sweet skills and great upside and all, but to be honest I still think Lando and Larsson do more for the Avs organization than RNH would. We don't really need another high-skill center on a team that's got Duchene, Staz and a breaking out O'Reilly. *shrug* but I'm willing to admit that I might be short selling RNH's ceiling.
I agree on the position factor.
But I honestly think that RNH is hands down the top of the 2011 draft class and his performances as a 175 pound, 18 year old center so far this season prove that to me.
I think that if the Avs did get the chance to draft RNH, they would have done it and it would have made Stastny more than expendable.
Are you saying that RNH wasn't one of your first choices? Or that you knew RNH was going to Edm and that Larsson was your first choice of who was left?
I don't feel the RNH would have fit in here. Stastny, Duchene, and O'Reilly have center locked up as long as the Avs want them there. I don't see RNH as good on the wing as Huberdeau or Landeskog, or as much of a need as defenseman was. He would have been forth on my list behind Huberdeau, Landeskog, and Larsson. The top 4 in this draft though were so close that I would have been happy with any of the picks.
