money aside Papelbon is a very good closer- been averaging double digit games at Fenway(including years of season tix) since the 1960's and seen my share of closers (although those early years there probably was no such term) and Papelbon is up there. Go read Sons of Sam Horn if you want the hardcore Sox fans take on this- havent been but I bet they are pissed
I don't understand why the Phillies are doing this after just re-signing Madson. I just don't think Papelbon is a big time closer anymore, and if he is signing with the Phillies, he's the closer.
I don't understand why the Phillies are doing this after just re-signing Madson. I just don't think Papelbon is a big time closer anymore, and if he is signing with the Phillies, he's the closer.
I don't understand why the Phillies are doing this after just re-signing Madson. I just don't think Papelbon is a big time closer anymore, and if he is signing with the Phillies, he's the closer.
So it's his fault that their high paid left-fielder in Carl Crawford couldn't make the catch? Papelbon has 200+ saves and Madson has 52. Sadly, what I remember of Madson in 2008 is when Uribe hit the game winning home run off him and that sent the Giants to the World Series.
All I know is... the idea of him with the thought of the final game of the 2011 season...
If I were you I would not base his career in the playoffs by one game. Take a look at his playoffs in total. But if that floats your boat so be it. Me, I look at the big picture.
I don't understand why the Phillies are doing this after just re-signing Madson. I just don't think Papelbon is a big time closer anymore, and if he is signing with the Phillies, he's the closer.
Wow do we disagree about him not being a big time closer. You are correct about one thing. He is our closer. The guy can pitch under pressure. And I hate to tell everyone. Pitching in Boston is just as hard if not harder,then pitching here in Philly. His record the last 5-6 years speaks for itself. Now with our closer set we can look at other areas to work on. Well done R.A.
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Madson and Papelbon are pretty much even for me although I like Madson a little better. I just don't like that the deal is even larger than the one rumored to Madson. He's a good pitcher though, and he essentially just replaces Lidge's money.
If I were you I would not base his career in the playoffs by one game. Take a look at his playoffs in total. But if that floats your boat so be it. Me, I look at the big picture.
Ugh, do NOT like that deal for Papelbon. He's a head case, and that's too much money for too long for a closer. If this is real, I'm not a happy camper at ALL.
Madson was the biggest head case on the team. Remember him missing 8 weeks last year when he kicked a chair? He always seemed really unstable to me, ready to snap at any moment.
I don't think this will affects the team's ability to sign Rollins or another SS. Papelbon's money basically replaces Lidge's.
