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10-10-2011, 02:02 PM
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Panthers sign Huberdeau to ELC, stays in Juniors

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#FlaPanthers sign Huberdeau, @JonnyHuby11, to entry-level contact. Will remain with @SeaDogsHockey this season http://******/6SUyG
From the official FlaPanthers twitter account.

http://panthers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=595307

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So essentially if we need him for a 9 game span we can call him?

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Awesome!

Glad they did it so quick, so we don't end up with all the retarded trade-proposals.

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@flomarilius: Might be a little late.
At least we won't have to worry about it next year.

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So essentially if we need him for a 9 game span we can call him?
Emergency call-up only, we have to be lacking in depth from our minor leaguers to call him up, which is pretty unlikely. Also the OHL season for him has to be over.

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Alright thanks I wasn't sure how that would've worked. Thanks again for the clarification

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Emergency call-up only, we have to be lacking in depth from our minor leaguers to call him up, which is pretty unlikely. Also the OHL season for him has to be over.
QMJHL..

He had three points and was the 1st star the other night btw..

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I guess I'm not the only one who calls Canadian Junior hockey in general as the "O" lol

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Just saw it on the Cats site, very nice. Im curious though, why do this now, and not over the next summer? Im sure both parties wanted to get this out of the way, but do we lose a year because of him signing this year, but not being here until next?

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Just saw it on the Cats site, very nice. Im curious though, why do this now, and not over the next summer? Im sure both parties wanted to get this out of the way, but do we lose a year because of him signing this year, but not being here until next?
We don't lose a year unless he plays more than 9 NHL games this year.

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Glad it's taken care of and won't be a distraction.

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We don't lose a year unless he plays more than 9 NHL games this year.
Ahhh, gotcha. Thanks for that. But we do have to re-sign him one year earlier, no?

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Ahhh, gotcha. Thanks for that. But we do have to re-sign him one year earlier, no?
Nope...

We'll have to sign again him when he plays three years of professionnal hockey with our organization, the three-year of his ELC !

If he comes back next training camp (for the 2012-2013 season) and doesn't make the team, he'll have to go to juniors because he won't be 20 until July 2013, his contract wouldn't kick in since he would play junior hockey !

His contract is sure to kick in at least during the 2013-2014 season (whether he plays in the A or with the big club), in that case he becomes RFA after the 2015-2016 season...

If he makes the opening night roster in 2012-2013 and plays 10 games, he will be a RFA after the 2014-2015 season.

Timing of your signing doesn't do anything with your contract, it is seasons played that are important.

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Nope...

We'll have to sign again him when he plays three years of professionnal hockey with our organization, the three-year of his ELC !

If he comes back next training camp (for the 2012-2013 season) and doesn't make the team, he'll have to go to juniors because he won't be 20 until July 2013, his contract wouldn't kick in since he would play junior hockey !

His contract is sure to kick in at least during the 2013-2014 season (whether he plays in the A or with the big club), in that case he becomes RFA after the 2015-2016 season...

If he makes the opening night roster in 2012-2013 and plays 10 games, he will be a RFA after the 2014-2015 season.

Timing of your signing doesn't do anything with your contract, it is seasons played that are important.

Are you sure thats how it works?
I read the other month that the 9 game rule only involves at what age they become UFA, and that it takes 40 games with the NHL club for the contract to count as one season from the ELC-deal.

Doesnt really matter, but that poster put a thought in my head I want to clear out!

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Are you sure thats how it works?
I read the other month that the 9 game rule only involves at what age they become UFA, and that it takes 40 games with the NHL club for the contract to count as one season from the ELC-deal.

Doesnt really matter, but that poster put a thought in my head I want to clear out!
There is some kind of loophole yes...

That's why Michal Repik is still with us, his ELC went something like 4 years because of the CBA.

Still, pb1300 asked if the timing of the signature had anything to do in how it works and it doesn't...

Would have to check on that, but don't have the time right now.

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Good to see that everyone knows how the contracts work better than me. When I first saw this I was just thinking what's the point as it would restrict his ELC but if it has no effect then it is good to have got him to sign on nice and early.

Looking forward to see him as a Panther.

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Yeah the trickiness with how ELC's work is odd at times but it really is also about age of when they sign the contract too. Signing him as an 18 yr old now can provide certain benefits (and he would want to sign now to get a signing bonus so he'll still get money now). But the CBA is very clear and for 1 yr of the contract to be counted toward free agency, the player has to play at least 10 games in the NHL. Also keep in mind, even if he plays 10 games next yr but doesnt play 10 games the following year in the NHL, then his contract would slide an extra yr (thats what sorta happened with Repik...only 5 NHL games his first yr). Here's the official wording:
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i. In the event that an 18 year old or 19 year old Player signs an SPC with a club but does not play at least ten (10) NHL games in the first season under that SPC, the term of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for a period of one (1) year, except that this automatic extension will not apply to a Player who is 19 according to Section 9.2 by virtue of turning 20 between September 16 and December 31 in the year in which he first signs an SPC. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player's SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances.

ii. In the event that a Player signs his first SPC at age 18 and has had his SPC extended pursuant to Subsection (i), and such Player does not play at least ten (10) NHL games in the second season under that SPC, then the terms of his SPC and his number of years in the Entry Level System shall be extended for one (1) additional year. Unless a Player and Club expressly agree to the contrary, in the event a Player's SPC is extended an additional year in accordance with this subsection, all terms of the SPC, with the exception of Signing Bonuses, but including Paragraph 1 salary, games played bonuses and Exhibit 5 bonuses, shall be extended; provided, however, that the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary shall be extended in all circumstances.
As an FYI for those wondeirng, the "40 game" mark that some people misunderstand at times is only in regards to the waiver-eligibility of a player and relates to the previous season too. Kinda understandable in that a lot of young players during the ELC may or may not be waiver eligible depending on that requirement (and technically how old they were when they first signed their contract).

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He could play in the playoffs as his first games like Iginla did for the Flames vs Hawks (if his team is out of the playoffs in the Q). Correct?

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Question for anyone that can answer...

Is there any money in Saint John hockey? Like ticket/merch/sponsor sales? If so, any chance Tallon gets money for helping that along?

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Question for anyone that can answer...

Is there any money in Saint John hockey? Like ticket/merch/sponsor sales? If so, any chance Tallon gets money for helping that along?
Yorkman? That you?

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He could play in the playoffs as his first games like Iginla did for the Flames vs Hawks (if his team is out of the playoffs in the Q). Correct?
That's interesting. Anyone know if he doesn't play for us during regular season(or plays less then 9games) do playoff games count towards the 10game total?

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That's interesting. Anyone know if he doesn't play for us during regular season(or plays less then 9games) do playoff games count towards the 10game total?
I don't believe that playoff games count cause players actually dont receive paychecks during the playoffs. I'm sure theres additional wording in the CBA that defines it as regular season games but I'm not at my PC atm so can't verify that.

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I don't believe that playoff games count cause players actually dont receive paychecks during the playoffs. I'm sure theres additional wording in the CBA that defines it as regular season games but I'm not at my PC atm so can't verify that.
He has to sign a PTO at the end of the year to play pro (games don't count, because he is only on a tryout contract). He could play NHL regular season and they still wouldn't count.

BTW, Huberdeau has been named captain of the Saint John Sea Dogs.

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