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The NHL Goalie Poll AKA "The Luongo Test" - #1

View Poll Results: Ignoring age, salary, etc. and based on play alone, which goalie is best right now?
Tim Thomas 68 40.96%
Ryan Miller 6 3.61%
Henrik Lundqvist 29 17.47%
Roberto Luongo 7 4.22%
Pekka Rinne 36 21.69%
Ilya Bryzgalov 1 0.60%
Carey Price 10 6.02%
Marc-Andre Fleury 2 1.20%
Cam Ward 0 0%
Martin Brodeur 1 0.60%
Niklas Backstrom 0 0%
Miikka Kiprusoff 0 0%
Jonas Hiller 2 1.20%
Jaroslav Halak 0 0%
Martin Brodeur 4 2.41%
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10-13-2011, 07:04 PM
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The NHL Goalie Poll AKA "The Luongo Test" - #1

With all the **** talk that goes on towards Luongo around here, I want an accurate indication of where the majority of our fans actually rank him in terms of NHL goaltenders. We have a tendency to be hardest on our own, but will that reflect when push comes to shove and we actually have to peg Luongo onto a list, or is the fanbase here so put off by him that he actually ranks somewhere outside the top 10?

Only way to find out for sure is to rank. Each poll will last for a day or two (or until there's a clear runaway winner for that poll) upon which a new thread will be started (much like the Canucks prospects poll we run). The polling will end once Luongo has won a poll and is ranked.

This is basically a litmus test for me to see if our fans as a whole are as out to lunch as I fear they might be.



So the question is as follows:

Ignoring salary, age, cap hit, and any other factors besides play alone, which goaltender would you choose for your team to win right now assuming all teams are equal and the only difference between any of them would be the goaltender?


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I realize I left Jonathan Quick off the list. Maximum options is 15. He won't be first, so he'll be added into the next poll.

Edit:

I should also mention that I know there's a lot of Luongo threads and if there isn't an appetite to want to do this I'll delete the thread and forget about it. I thought it would be interesting, though, given how polarized our fanbase seems to be regarding Luongo, to get an accurate representation of where the majority of the fans here have him ranked in terms of NHL goaltenders. It will help shed light on whether the Luongo detractors are a vocal minority, or if Luongo reallly has soured on the majority of fans here.

I would expect him to be in the top 5 if the majority of the fans here still believe in him.


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Seriously, I am the only one that chose Martin Brodeur so far?

Age is ignored.....he's one of the best in the history of the NHL.

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Tim Thomas. I'll go with the jolly old guy because of the last year. But things can change very quickly as the season progresses.

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After last season, I think #1 is a bit of a no-brainer.

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Just because it's so early in the season, I'm going to base my votes off last season. So I'd rank Tim Thomas first, followed by Pekka Rinne and Henrik Lundqvist ahead of him for sure. My problem with Lu isn't his regular season play, it's how insanely inconsistent he can be in the playoffs. You literally do not know if he is going to post a shutout or let 7 goals in.

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Seriously, I am the only one that chose Martin Brodeur so far?

Age is ignored.....he's one of the best in the history of the NHL.
Age ignored, yes. But the question is still best goalie right now

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I went with the obvious, Christobal Huet

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Seriously, I am the only one that chose Martin Brodeur so far?

Age is ignored.....he's one of the best in the history of the NHL.
Yeah, but his glory days are behind him it seems. He has definitely declined.

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Id take Thomas, Miller, Lundqvist, Rinne, Price ahead of Luongo for sure and if we replaced him with Bryz or Fleury we'd be no worse off. Also I'd rather have Cam Ward in a big playoff game than Luongo.

He's in the top 10 for me but not near the top simply because of his meltdowns and weak mental make-up. Doesn't play well to start the year, falls apart in road playoff games, I've never seen any goalie on that list fall apart several years in a row in the playoffs. I mean Halak stole two series on his own while Luongo rarely even steals games. Luongo also plays behind a better defence than a lot of these goalies.

The only goalie Luongo was really better than last playoffs was Niemi.

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It's rinne for me... guy is a stud!

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Rinne. I like his size and I think he's going to have a career year this year.

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I can't see how anyone doesn't take Thomas.

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Has to be Thomas.

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Two Vezinas in the last three years, and he was injured in the one year he didn't win it. Pretty easy choice for me.

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I can't see how anyone doesn't take Thomas.
I didn't take Thomas because last year was a massive one shot where everything aligned for him.

If you asked me last year, I would take Tim Thomas. But right now I take Rinne as he is a model of consistency. Not his fault there is no scoring in Nashville.

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The thing about Thomas is I'm not sure how much of his play is a result of the defence in front of him. He challenges SO high because his defence gives him the security to do so.

Rinne doesn't seem to need to play halfway to the blueline to make saves and was pretty comparable to Thomas last year (statistically).

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I didn't take Thomas because last year was a massive one shot where everything aligned for him.

If you asked me last year, I would take Tim Thomas. But right now I take Rinne as he is a model of consistency. Not his fault there is no scoring in Nashville.
As much as I like Rinne right now, (personally he's my number two) he doesn't have as good a track record as Thomas does. Rinne's only great year was last year, IMO. Thomas has 2 really great seasons, and the one sandwiched in between that was a injury-plagued season that was very comparable to Rinne's healthy season that year as well.

That's just what I am thinking.


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The thing about Thomas is I'm not sure how much of his play is a result of the defence in front of him. He challenges SO high because his defence gives him the security to do so.

Rinne doesn't seem to need to play halfway to the blueline to make saves and was pretty comparable to Thomas last year (statistically).
Yes, but Rinne also has the best defensive pairing in the NHL (IMO) playing in front of him 25-30 minutes a night, and as we learned in the playoffs last year, that 2nd shut-down pair with Klein and Blum isn't that bad either.

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I went with Lundqvist.

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10-13-2011, 07:49 PM
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the phrase "play alone" mean one game or over the course of a season? Tim Thomas doesnt have the ability to play 70+ games, and neither does Halak or arguably Kipprusoff.

Without putting too much thought into it, I rank him in the top 5. Pessimistically I rank him 8th behind Fleury and Ward but ahead of Bryzgalov and Price

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One knock against Rinne is that Dan Ellis and Chris Mason put up comparable numbers as Rinne's best year when they played behind Nashville as well. Not to mention Rinne doesn't have a huge track record and his 2nd highest sv% is .917. Was last year an aberration?

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Yes, but Rinne also has the best defensive pairing in the NHL (IMO) playing in front of him 25-30 minutes a night, and as we learned in the playoffs last year, that 2nd shut-down pair with Klein and Blum isn't that bad either.
Yeah, there is that. I just think that Rinne would be able to transfer his game easier to a new team because he plays fairly deep in his net. I would be absolutely delighted to see him between our pipes. With Thomas I'm 80% sure he would be a complete disaster here with our offensive style.

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Seriously, I am the only one that chose Martin Brodeur so far?

Age is ignored.....he's one of the best in the history of the NHL.
Yeah... wtf is going on?

Ignoring AGE who is the best goalie on that list?

Martin fricken Broduer.

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This poll kinda asks everyone to treat each goalie like he's 25.

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