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04-11-2017, 09:36 AM
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NHL Central Scouting "Final Rankings"

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but it looks like NHL Central Scouting has updated its rankings.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospect...Rank&year=2017

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Their final rankings can't be out 2+ months before the draft can they? Then again the NHL doesn't do anything right so I dunno

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Their final rankings can't be out 2+ months before the draft can they? Then again the NHL doesn't do anything right so I dunno
That's how they typically do it since the regular season is over for the junior leagues. And in defense of the NHL, they're probably the only league that funds a small group to publish public rankings like this.

Gare Joyce wrote a book ~10 years ago about scouting for the NHL Draft. Regarding Central Scouting, he had a snippet that went something like "NHL teams respect the job that Central Scouting does with its limited resources but generally disregard their final rankings."

But yes, it is early to publish final rankings. There's usually a few prospects who turn heads at the upcoming U18 tournament. And that's a reason folks shouldn't use Central's ranking as a basis to do a mock draft. *looking in your direction NHL.com writers*

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Their final rankings can't be out 2+ months before the draft can they? Then again the NHL doesn't do anything right so I dunno
Yeah, well they have to be fair to the prospects whose teams missed the playoffs. They won't get to play anymore this season to improve their stock or let their stock drop.

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Yeah, well they have to be fair to the prospects whose teams missed the playoffs. They won't get to play anymore this season to improve their stock or let their stock drop.
Has a lot to do this with this. The majority of all teams worldwide with NHL-prospects are done for the season. In the grand scope of things it's just a handful of teams left playing.

As others have eluded to as well, these are just one entity's draft rankings and are not gospel. Individual clubs will not finalize their own rankings until later and they will all look much different than this. Quite frankly, NHL teams do their own thing and don't put much stock in anyone else's rankings.

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Wouldn't have guessed that top 6 for Euro skaters

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Kostin as the #1 Euro.

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Seems like a typical Central Scoutings rankings. Big over Small. Surprised though they have Yamamoto so high

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Gare Joyce wrote a book ~10 years ago about scouting for the NHL Draft. Regarding Central Scouting, he had a snippet that went something like "NHL teams respect the job that Central Scouting does with its limited resources but generally disregard their final rankings."
Somebody told me once the biggest service Central Scouting does is put players on NHL teams radar. It's not as much the final list Teams use basically as it is the earlier ones when they see names pop up on it that they may not have scouted

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Thanks for posting this. Still think Comtois will do well. Some team will get a great talent late in the 1st or early in the 2nd if we believe these rankings.

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Kostin ranking is just odd. I'd be pretty surprised to see him taken in the top 20. I don't have much of an issue with their NA ranking but the euro ones are not great.

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The rankings are published a bit earlier to give teams a chance to watch those players and make their own lists.

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Did I just miss seeing him but did they not have Necas ??

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Did I just miss seeing him but did they not have Necas ??
on the "European Skaters" tab, #5

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Nice to see JAD finally getting some love. Up 19 spots from the midterm.

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They always release these rankings in mid-April. Here is the accompanying article with some quotes.

https://www.nhl.com/news/2017-nhl-dr...?tid=277764372

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Can't comment the NA list, but Kostin as the number one on EU one is cringe worthy to say at least.
Don't agree on the czech players ranking either. They seem to value much more all around play over an actual upside. Galvas over Kvasnicka, Dvorak/Novak over Kern as some examples. Slovaks Hrehorcak and Krivosik should also be higher, I think at least one of them will get drafted, they are good.

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Grad to see both Thomas and Formenton in the first round.

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Valimaki is in a good spot, not surprised he's ahead of Foote. There are a good amount of decent d-men coming out of the W.

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Actually don't have much of a problem with these rankings. They've moved guys up and down in a way that makes sense, both on EU and NA rankings. Don't agree with Kostin at #1 on EU though with the season he has had. Too much of an unknown.

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Grad to see both Thomas and Formenton in the first round.
When the Euros and NA are combined they may not be

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call me crazy, but vilardi has a real shot to go #1

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About damn time Jason Robertson gets some love!! Big jump to a potential top 15 pick!! There goes my hope of the Hawks getting him end of round 1

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When the Euros and NA are combined they may not be
Yeah - I phrased that badly. But, yes...you're correct that they both might not be first round picks.

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call me crazy, but vilardi has a real shot to go #1
you're crazy. He won't be taken in the top 5.

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That's how they typically do it since the regular season is over for the junior leagues. And in defense of the NHL, they're probably the only league that funds a small group to publish public rankings like this.

Gare Joyce wrote a book ~10 years ago about scouting for the NHL Draft. Regarding Central Scouting, he had a snippet that went something like "NHL teams respect the job that Central Scouting does with its limited resources but generally disregard their final rankings."

But yes, it is early to publish final rankings. There's usually a few prospects who turn heads at the upcoming U18 tournament. And that's a reason folks shouldn't use Central's ranking as a basis to do a mock draft. *looking in your direction NHL.com writers*

how about prospects who turn heads with a deep run to Mem Cup

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