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10-16-2011, 10:49 PM
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So back to back Art Ross winners aren't enough for a 40 point defenceman Funny thing is the goalie who "sucks" took his team to game 7 of the finals, a place the Sabres haven't reached in franchise history.

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10-16-2011, 10:59 PM
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What part of my post is "stupid" The Sedins are back to back Art Ross winner, while Luongo did take his team further last year than any Sabres team has ever been. Homers these days

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10-16-2011, 11:01 PM
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What part of my post is "stupid" The Sedins are back to back Art Ross winner, while Luongo did take his team further last year than any Sabres team has ever been. Homers these days
The guys original post was a joke. He obviously was just messing around.

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10-16-2011, 11:14 PM
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The guys original post was a joke. He obviously was just messing around.

LOL
Winner.

I don't understand how you (Bruno Mars) missed the obvious sarcasm of the post by SoFFacet. It seemed as if it was written by a 12 year old girl on crack (or Justin Bieber.)

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10-16-2011, 11:26 PM
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Sorry my bad.

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10-16-2011, 11:56 PM
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No deal, maybe Roy and Kassian for kesler

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10-17-2011, 03:09 AM
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No deal, maybe Roy and Kassian for kesler
Yah good luck with that. The only way Kesler becomes a Sabre is if Pegula buys a time machine, kidnaps the French Connection Line and then makes a swap for kes.

or drafts him instead of Vanek

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10-17-2011, 08:03 AM
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So back to back Art Ross winners aren't enough for a 40 point defenceman Funny thing is the goalie who "sucks" took his team to game 7 of the finals, a place the Sabres haven't reached in franchise history.
lol getting to game 7 of the finals is so much cooler than getting to game 6. then you can also debate whether vancouver even GOT to game 7 considering they were shutout.

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10-17-2011, 08:36 AM
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Yeah ok.

Last 4 Seasons (07-08 to 10-11)

Derek Roy:
275 GP-96G-159A-255P .92 PPG

Ryan Kesler:
326 GP-113G-131A-244P .75 PPG

And Roy isn't close to Kesler?

Kesler is by far one of the most overrated players out there, this guy plays behind 2 Art Ross Winners and Roy handily outproduces him.

And I'm not even bringing contract in here, which Roy's is far better.

And before OMG SELKE, Roy is a great 2 way center and PK'er, so any difference is negligent in that aspect.
What a bunch of crap. As others have stated you cherry picked your stats to make Roy look like the better offensive player. Even if you think Roy = Kesler offensively, how the hell do you downplay a guy winning the selke, and say the difference between his defensive game and Roy's is negligible?Honestly, posts like this make sabres fans look bad. Trying watching a game or two on television instead of looking up stats on Nhl.com.

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10-17-2011, 08:56 AM
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Yeah ok.

Last 4 Seasons (07-08 to 10-11)

Derek Roy:
275 GP-96G-159A-255P .92 PPG

Ryan Kesler:
326 GP-113G-131A-244P .75 PPG

And Roy isn't close to Kesler?

Kesler is by far one of the most overrated players out there, this guy plays behind 2 Art Ross Winners and Roy handily outproduces him.

And I'm not even bringing contract in here, which Roy's is far better.

And before OMG SELKE, Roy is a great 2 way center and PK'er, so any difference is negligent in that aspect.
Roy isn't even on the same planet as Kesler defensively.

What are you talking about Helen?

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10-17-2011, 11:10 AM
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just wondering, are nuck fans gonna boo ehrhoff when the sabres come to Vancouver this season

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10-17-2011, 11:19 AM
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Sorry my bad.
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10-17-2011, 11:30 AM
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just wondering, are nuck fans gonna boo ehrhoff when the sabres come to Vancouver this season
I'd assume some probably would. He'll probably get some cheers too. Probably will lead to a riot too, but those aren't real fans.

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Kesler got toasted by the Bruins. His Selke trophy didn't help him much in that series.

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Kesler got toasted by the Bruins. His Selke trophy didn't help him much in that series.
1. No he did not.
2. Played through a hip injury (in SJ series) that required surgery.
3. He was arguably our best forward in that series, and overall best player throughout the playoffs.

Anyhow, there is obviously a lot of value in the proposals (equal value, even), but he's just the last guy the Canucks would ever trade.

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10-17-2011, 02:10 PM
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lol getting to game 7 of the finals is so much cooler than getting to game 6. then you can also debate whether vancouver even GOT to game 7 considering they were shutout.
Always have an excuse don't you? Making it to game 7 of the finals, is better than making it to game 6 of the finals, Vancouver actually had a chance to win the cup with a win.

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10-17-2011, 04:01 PM
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Always have an excuse don't you? Making it to game 7 of the finals, is better than making it to game 6 of the finals, Vancouver actually had a chance to win the cup with a win.


lol.....this is the dumbest argument ever...

seriously.

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10-17-2011, 04:04 PM
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just wondering, are nuck fans gonna boo ehrhoff when the sabres come to Vancouver this season

They will when he scores a goal ...

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10-17-2011, 04:05 PM
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lol.....this is the dumbest argument ever...

seriously.
This entire thread is dumb.

Its no longer a trade proposal & now its a Sabres vs Canucks thing...

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10-17-2011, 04:10 PM
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This entire thread is dumb.

Its no longer a trade proposal & now its a Sabres vs Canucks thing...
yup. Canucks arent dealing Kesler ...not sure why anyone bothered.

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10-17-2011, 04:21 PM
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As a sabres fan and huge fan of kesler to the point he is my favorite non sabres and own his team USA jersey I wouldnt do the deal in the OP. Too much to give up for 1 player no matter what.

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This thread is dead. Just turns into another pissing match between fan bases comparing their players.

Kesler is not available. He is in the same situation as Myers. Players not on the block that would take a massive overpayment that no team would offer to pry them from their respective teams.

Let's leave it at that. No need to slag other players or fans - which is what these threads always turn into. Kesler is the Canucks most valuable asset and top contending teams only trade such players if they're looking to massively overhaul their team (ie Philly)... Neither Vancouver nor Buffalo are at that stage.

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10-17-2011, 05:20 PM
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From Vancouver's perspective, this deal isn't very useful due to the contracts and the development stages of the players in question.

Kassian and Armia may not be ready for full time duty for a couple years, while Roy's contract will expire in 2013. So assuming Samuelsson and Boyes cancel each other out, it's Roy for Kesler until then, which doesn't improve the Canucks at all.

The Canucks may not be able to keep Roy after 2013, and even if they do, they'd probably have to give him a hefty raise given the way the salaries are going. So from 2013-2016, the Canucks probably aren't in a better position unless they can keep Roy and Armia or Kassian develops into a borderline 1st line player during that time.

After 2016, having Armia and Kassian would likely be pretty nice, but the Sedins will be 36 then and probably in decline.

The trade probably improves Buffalo's chances at a cup in the short term, but trading two top prospects like that only makes sense if they thought Miller was going to start declining soon.

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10-17-2011, 05:35 PM
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lol.....this is the dumbest argument ever...

seriously.
I agree it's a dumb argument, we all know making it to game 7 of the finals is more impressive than making it to game 6. Anyway who cares?

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10-17-2011, 05:45 PM
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I agree it's a dumb argument, we all know making it to game 7 of the finals is more impressive than making it to game 6. Anyway who cares?

Nothing impressive about losing.



Nothing.

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