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10-14-2011, 08:18 PM
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Nassau's "FINAL" Coliseum Plan

Nassau County officials submitted an extensive economic development plan to the state Friday that envisions creating a bioscience research and development park and a new Nassau Coliseum in the Hub.

The proposal also focuses on Belmont Park as a site of new sports and entertainment options, including a potential soccer stadium, as well as expanding homeland security research facilities and film and television studios at the Grumman property in Bethpage.

The plan suggests that Belmont could be an alternative site for the Coliseum if the bioscience park would take up the entire 77-acre Hub site. It also reiterates County Executive Edward Mangano's earlier proposal for a Shinnecock Indian Nation casino at Belmont.

The proposal suggests 6,000 permanent jobs would be created at the Coliseum site alone.

The county is primarily asking for the state money for infrastructure and roadway improvements. It would still have to seek private developers for the rest of the proposals.

Nassau sent its application to the state's Empire State Development Corp. Friday as a "transformative project." The submission will first compete with other economic development projects across Long Island. Then the Long Island Regional Economic Development Council will choose top projects to compete with nine other regions for $200 million in state funds. The state's decision is expected in December.

Going forward, there will be an additional $800 million in state dollars available through various grants, tax credits and other funding streams.

The Ronkonkoma Hub, the Mall at Oyster Bay at the former Cerro Wire site and Heartland Town Square in Brentwood, among others, are also competing for funds.

A new Coliseum would be built at the northern edge of the property, although the county is also entertaining proposals for a renovated arena. A 6,000-car, $150 million parking garage would be shared between bioscience offices and the Coliseum. The site would have room for housing and the existing Long Island Marriott.

Officials expect the parking garage and roadway improvements could be completed over the next two years. A request for proposals would be issued once state funding decisions are made in December.

The report said the county would need $253 million in infrastructure and transit improvements, for the parking garage, redesigned roadways and a shuttle bus system. They are seeking state grants, tax credits and program funding, including the funds available through the council. The other development, including the Coliseum, would be privately funded.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...749?print=true

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Wang isn't building a new coliseum without the LHP. I can't see anyone willing to buy the team & build the arena.

Nassau is no longer an option in my opinion. It's time to move to Queens.

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not even wasting my time reading this article. queens or belmont if its possible. no chance they stay here.

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not even wasting my time reading this article. queens or belmont if its possible. no chance they stay here.
Well maybe you should read the article before posting because its talking about moving to belmont.

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Belmont as an Alternative.

Didn't some Native American group more or less build the Penguins new home because they wanted a casino also? Did I make that up in my mind?

I wonder if the Shinnecocks would be willing to do something like that.

Belmont would be a great option, but right now it's just listed as an alternative. The article is about something being done on the current NVMC site. I don't see that ever happening.

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I am so tired of this; I just don't care anymore.

Call me when there's shovels in the ground or moving trucks being packed.

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Who even cares anymore?

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No matter what proposal is made if Wang can't make money he's gone. Nassau doesn't want the Isles . It's Queens Sufolk or Canada

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Well if this is truly the last proposal it should be interesting to see what transpires.

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I thought for sure Belmont was NYC territory anyway?

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I thought for sure Belmont was NYC territory anyway?
It is elmont and considered Nassau county. Pretty much on the borderline

They have the train stop so that's good but it is never happening

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Not getting my hopes up.

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For god sake, just get it done already. Enough of these stupid political games. Build the damn arena

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I agree with just about everyone one of these previous posts; just get it done, call me when the shovels are in the ground, build move whatever just tell us, etc. However, if Wang gets a new Collie and doesn't have to pay i don't think him getting in on the development matters IMO.

I for one will be paying attention to this proposal and any other, but not nearly as much as I will be watching games and rooting for the boys!

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I think Coliseum has to be privately funded, which may be an issue with Wang


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Wang isn't building a new coliseum without the LHP. I can't see anyone willing to buy the team & build the arena.

Nassau is no longer an option in my opinion. It's time to move to Queens.
Well, Queens may be trying to get state funding for their planned convention centre

http://www.qgazette.com/news/2011-10..._A_Conven.html

Queens Chamber To City Regional EDC: Build A Convention Center In Queens

A copy of this letter was received by the Gazette. Queens Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Jack Friedman delivered the following testimony during the public session portion of the city Regional Economic Development Council meeting held on October 4 at York College in Jamaica.

Good morning members of the New York City Regional Economic Council. My name is Jack Friedman and I am the Executive Director of the Queens Chamber of Commerce, an organization that represents over 1,200 businesses and organizations doing business in and around Queens County. I would first like to thank you for this opportunity to weigh in on how the inclusion of a convention center in Queens as a priority project in the Regional Five Year plan would impact our borough, our city’s economy and the economy of the entire region.


The master plan for Willets Point has always included a footprint for a 400,000 square foot convention center.

New York City Regional Economic Council is one of 10 state regional councils in NY State formed by Andrew Cuomo

http://governor.ny.gov/press/0727201...lopmentCouncil

10 Regional Economic Development Councils

•New York City (Bronx, Kings, New York, Queens, Richmond)


QCCC has considered about converting their planned convention centre in Willets Point in the past

http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2...alks-to-begin/

The Queens Chamber has always supported projects that bring jobs, incremental tax revenue and opportunities for local businesses. We have been long time advocates for a first class convention exhibition hall, something I believe a multi-use arena could be and a means by which Willets Point could be converted from a blight to an economic engine.

I think Queens would be OK with a multi purpose arena 3 or 4 times larger than 400000 sq feet they had planned since it can be used for NHL and other events when conventions are not on schedule.


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Note the Position of the NEW building and the light rail line that they want snaking around it..

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So, the majority of the property is for some bio-research/pharma production and the tiny little nothern bit for the new coliseum?

FAIL!

Wang needs to look elsewhere.

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So, the majority of the property is for some bio-research/pharma production and the tiny little nothern bit for the new coliseum?

FAIL!

Wang needs to look elsewhere.
Agreed this is a a bad option for Wang, the Coli needs to be the main focus not just some throw in.

Nassau is out and I don't really want to hear about the Coli plans until the offseason. As Wang said it's time to focus on hockey and winning.

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So, the majority of the property is for some bio-research/pharma production and the tiny little nothern bit for the new coliseum?

FAIL!

Wang needs to look elsewhere.
I have a very hard time believing that a bio research/pharmaceutical production company would even come to Nassau because of it having one of the most ridiculously high taxes in the country. If that actually gets built say hello to more empty buildings.

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So, the majority of the property is for some bio-research/pharma production and the tiny little nothern bit for the new coliseum?

FAIL!

Wang needs to look elsewhere.
DP is going to be a test subject there for finding a cure to all sports related injuries....Its pretty epic...Ground breaking stuff.......

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I have a very hard time believing that a bio research/pharmaceutical production company would even come to Nassau because of it having one of the most ridiculously high taxes in the country. If that actually gets built say hello to more empty buildings.

Completely agree. I worked in the Pharma industry and can tell you that you only have to look at Northern Jersey for proof of your point. Most of the big pharma companies are leaving there and moving to PA because of the high cost of living ( i.e. need to pay higher salaries)

OSI was leaving and only stayed b/c the land deal fell apart and most of our pharma's are generic contract manufacturers owned by LI'ers and operate in Suffolk b/c of the ability to pay people lower salaries then anywhere else on LI.

Much like the Farmingdale bio tech incubator, companies will incubate here and leave once they are ready to commercialize their products. This is yet another desperate attempt by a pol from a party causing the decline of LI with their obstruction and lack of feasible idea's.

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I have a very hard time believing that a bio research/pharmaceutical production company would even come to Nassau because of it having one of the most ridiculously high taxes in the country. If that actually gets built say hello to more empty buildings.
I second this. There's already plenty of vacant office/commercial/manufacturing space on Long Island. Unless there are companies that have already signed letters of intent to move in if it is built. But why on earth would such a company want to move into one of the highest taxed areas of the country? We do not have a field of dreams here, where "if you build it they will come". Empty buildings, even privately financed, will bring in no revenue, and will contribute to urban blight.

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I recommend we ban all talk of arenas and moving until the season is over. It's just too annoying to think about all that garbage while they're actually playing hockey.

I'd prefer to keep my head stuck in the sand until we're out of other more interesting things to talk about - like Bailey, Nabby, DiPi's melon, knees & hips, our old D, our young forwards, etc.

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I think Queens would be OK with a multi purpose arena 3 or 4 times larger than 400000 sq feet they had planned since it can be used for NHL and other events when conventions are not on schedule.
i think you might have that backwards there steve. it can be used for conventions and other events when the islanders are not on the schedule. i wouldnt sign any deal if the team wasnt given top priority when it came to scheduling events.

but then again, i dont own the team and really have no say in the matter.

just build something, any damned thing, before people lose any interest they might still have. this **** got old about 5 damned years ago man.........

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