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View Poll Results: What would you do with Lars Eller?
Try and play him more for trade bait? 6 3.14%
Play him with better line mates? 141 73.82%
Let him finish the year and see how it goes? 44 23.04%
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11-24-2011, 11:30 AM
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Bottom line is you have already made an opinion about JM and that won't allow you to be fair when analyzing.
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I'm surprised to read that some denies Eller's good work in board battles. Pushed or being pushed, doesn't matter as long as the battle ends with puck possession (himself or a teammate).

I'll try to make a tally of his board wins/losses in future games. Shouldn't be too much work given his amount of icetime.
Yep, he has a very strong core/balance. Combined with his stickhandling, he wins many of those battles. Now when does AK come back?

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11-24-2011, 12:25 PM
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No way is Gomez above Desharnais. I think Eller would do better than Desharnais if given the chance, but seriously, Gomez above Desharnais?? Sure, Desharnais gets knocked off the puck very easily but he's very well positioned for an interception and always make a good pass in the O zone before getting knocked on his ass.

Gomez just pass it on the other team's stick

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11-24-2011, 12:25 PM
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with Gomez out for a little bit. Maybe we'll see a better lineup. Eller at centre!!!!!!!


Call up Blunden, move Darche back to 4th line duties and claim Comeau. Moen-Eller-Comeau would be a decent 3rd line until AK returns. Darche- Nokia - Blunden make a serviceable 4th line and light a fire under Cammy's rear end and now the top 6 would be clicking.


All of that is keyed on Gomez being GONE and Eller playing CENTRE!!!

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11-24-2011, 12:28 PM
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Umm no. The guys you mentioned are for the most part scrubs. Talent is Talent, so don't lump Eller in with Pouliot please...

And as for Subban, how quickly people forget. You do realize when Subban was called up he was a MAJOR liability in his own zone? How he would constantly be out of position, and was just a complete mess within his own blue line? Subban is now GREAT in his own zone. Same goes with MaxPac. Eller has already developed that aspect as well.

Martin is in the business of developing great two way players. Eller is well on schedule...


Bottom line is you have already made an opinion about JM and that won't allow you to be fair when analyzing. I just call it how I see it. I criticize JM when he deserves it, but give him credit when it's due. And JM has done an EXCELLENT job developing young two way talent for this organization...
while i agree with your post, the bolded is, frankly wrong.

he was first called up during the playoffs and played a big part in shutting down crosby. he was fantastic during that playoff stretch.

next season, rough start that turned into a ****ing nightmare. he was awful. martin benches him, he comes back and plays the rest of the year like a superstar.

rough start this year as well but he's slowly getting back to speed.

martin is not without fault but eller, subban and dd are doing better because of martin. patches was patches from the moment he was called back last year.

martin sees eller as a future plekanec or just a really good two-way center. so far he's bringing him up as such: mistake free hockey first. the offensive talent is there, it's not gonna disappear tomorrow...

by the way, if you had to chose, gomez or eller on the same line, who plays center? benching/trading/murdering/kidnapping/demoting gomez is not an option. if anything, the few games gomez played wing, he was baaaaaaaad. so i think its a 'lesser of two evils' type of situation... eller is much, much, infinitely much better playing center, but at the same time... gomez....

not related to your post but as far as the whole 'give eller wingers who can produce' argument. im fine with dd keeping them. dd needs those guys to produce and he has so far, eller can still find way to produce or be useful without those guys. dd is useless without those guys.

well, maybe not completely useless, he played mostly 3rd and 4th line with pouliot of all ****ing people last year and still found ways to put points up so...

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11-24-2011, 12:34 PM
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Call up Blunden, move Darche back to 4th line duties and claim Comeau. Moen-Eller-Comeau would be a decent 3rd line until AK returns. Darche- Nokia - Blunden make a serviceable 4th line and light a fire under Cammy's rear end and now the top 6 would be clicking
'claim' comeau?

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11-24-2011, 12:37 PM
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Eller centering the 2nd PP unit, per @JFChaumont

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11-24-2011, 12:44 PM
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Desharnais has been our most creative center this season and rightfully deserves everything he's getting. That Pacioretty-Desharnais-Cole line has been golden for us this season, no reason to brake it.

Sure he had a defensive brain cramp when he went to block Sutter on the outside instead of simply lifting his stick, but hey, all of our centers have done it this year, including Plekanec and Eller.
Sutter scored with his skate..

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11-24-2011, 12:46 PM
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Eller centering the 2nd PP unit, per @JFChaumont
Do not believe.

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Eller centering the 2nd PP unit, per @JFChaumont
The Sky is falling.

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The worst part is we had all the size on one pp unit and then had gomez centering cammy and gionta. Eller with Cammy and Gio might actually have some success.

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Sutter scored with his skate..
Desharnais was simply outmuscled on the play. Not really a brain cramp.

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11-24-2011, 12:57 PM
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Desharnais was simply outmuscled on the play. Not really a brain cramp.
i don't remember the play happening that way or maybe we just are just using different words to mean the same thing but im not sure how he was 'outmuscled'... he found himself on the offensive side of the play rather than the defensive side and catch up with, couldn't poke it away or push sutter off the puck. i guess he failed to 'outmuscle' sutter but i don't remember seeing sutter shove him off or anything like that

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Eller centering the 2nd PP unit, per @JFChaumont
Pigs are flying?

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Pigs are flying?

Eller gets PP time as Gomez is injured.. hopefully not playing for a few games, tee hee hee.

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Eller gets PP time as Gomez is injured.. hopefully not playing for a few games, tee hee hee.
Hope it's not limited to practices. I don't remember Eller used on the PP last time Gomez was out.

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Eller centering the 2nd PP unit, per @JFChaumont
I don't like it, DD should keep his linemates on the 2nd pp wave and Eller should be taking Gomez's spot.

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Eller must play center.

Eller must also learn to win faceoffs.

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Eller is wicked,


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'claim' comeau?
Isles waived him

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I don't like it, DD should keep his linemates on the 2nd pp wave and Eller should be taking Gomez's spot.
This...

good to see Eller get PP role.
bad to see DD lose his and/or get switched to winger role/position.

but we won't see anything different until Gomez is no longer an option, so either PG needs to step up, or JM needs to walk the plank

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Eller centering the 2nd PP unit, per @JFChaumont
JM & Co. must be reading HFBoards and the Tweets on Twitter finally!

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Isles waived him
That's interesting but he's not worth his salary at the moment. Do the habs even have the cap space to make a claim?

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I don't think you have to bother, Just_thoughts blog takes care of offensive zone events such as board battles. You should check it out.
I think you're referring to this, among other links, which shows that so far Eller is in the bottom half among Habs forwards in terms of "ES puck battle win%".

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I think you're referring to this, among other links, which shows that so far Eller is in the bottom half among Habs forwards in terms of "ES puck battle win%".
Yep, love that site. Eller still needs to gain weight and be more assertive, more combative on the boards. He's one of our best forwards in the defensive zone, but lately has looked lost again when on the wing.

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