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View Poll Results: What would you do with Lars Eller?
Try and play him more for trade bait? 6 3.14%
Play him with better line mates? 141 73.82%
Let him finish the year and see how it goes? 44 23.04%
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11-24-2011, 05:00 PM
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Yep, love that site. Eller still needs to gain weight and be more assertive, more combative on the boards. He's one of our best forwards in the defensive zone, but lately has looked lost again when on the wing.
according to that site, wow Emelin and Gorges are very good along the boards !


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11-24-2011, 05:01 PM
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If you see any amount/pattern of "board domination" by Eller, then we have distinctly different prescriptions for our rose-coloured glasses. He still gets pushed around far more than he pushes opponents around, from my observation. He's a "skilled" centre, not a "big" centre, imo.
Dominating might've been a slight exaggeration on my part but the point of my post still stands. The kid is no pushover and he plays a chippy game. He doesnt mind getting his nose dirty.

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11-24-2011, 07:10 PM
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Dominating might've been a slight exaggeration on my part but the point of my post still stands. The kid is no pushover and he plays a chippy game. He doesnt mind getting his nose dirty.
I'd say a "slight exaggeration" would fit if there seemed to be a discrepancy between the impression left after watching and what the actual stats bear out. I haven't noticed much improvement in his strength on skates compared to last year (he's still young, obviously, and has improved a bit of course) and on the Habs, possibly one of the weaker cycling teams in the conference, he ranks in the bottom half of forwards in percentage of puck battles won. I'd call it a solid/gross exaggeration, but I'll agree that he isn't a "pushover" in the sense that he doesn't shy away from areas to which he needs to go, and is a bit "chippy".

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Yep, love that site. Eller still needs to gain weight and be more assertive, more combative on the boards. He's one of our best forwards in the defensive zone, but lately has looked lost again when on the wing.
Yeah, he has been quite solid in the defensive zone, which I guess is a credit to Martin on some level. I think players naturally become defensively aware/able quite quickly with experience and coaching though, so I'd really like Martin to take off the offensive shackles and really let us see what the kid can do in the opponents' end. Seems to me that stifling that aspect of an offensive player's game early in a career would be more detrimental long term than having a few defensive lapses now and again.

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11-24-2011, 07:22 PM
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Pacioretty Eller Cole
Gionta Plekanec Cammalleri
Moen Desharnais Palushaj
Darche Nokelainen

Once AK and White are back.....

Pacioretty Desharmais Cole
Kostitsyn Eller Moen (Chemistry is too good)
Gionta Plekanec Cammalleri
White Nokelainen Darche

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11-25-2011, 04:55 AM
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I would like to see the size or power forwards spread out a bit. I don't like Cole and Pacioretty having to support desharnais.

When AK returns we will see 3 more balanced lines, not a fan of gionta, pleks, cammy all on the same line.

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11-25-2011, 09:04 AM
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Eller is wicked,

We're seeing him emerge this year, but man next year he'll be awesome!

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11-25-2011, 09:16 AM
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Eller will play three shifts as the 2nd line C not get a goal then next thing we know he'll be the 3rd line C again the rest of the game.

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11-25-2011, 01:54 PM
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I think you're referring to this, among other links, which shows that so far Eller is in the bottom half among Habs forwards in terms of "ES puck battle win%".
The scope of that particular report is much wider than just board battles.

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11-25-2011, 02:46 PM
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Well, he got PP time and guess what? He created 2 solid chances with some slick passes. Shocking!

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11-25-2011, 07:01 PM
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The scope of that particular report is much wider than just board battles.
Right. It's puck battles in general, i.e. in all 3 zones.

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11-26-2011, 10:59 PM
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Eller did a good job of defending against Malkin, Crosby and co tonight.

According to http://timeonice.com/H2H1112.html?Ga...0331&submit=Go, Eller was on the ice most of the time against Malkin, Neal and Crosby. Eller finished +1 and wasn't on the ice for any of the Penguins goals.

He also won 15 out of 21 faceoffs, for 71% success rate.

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Eller did a good job of defending against Malkin, Crosby and co tonight.

According to http://timeonice.com/H2H1112.html?Ga...0331&submit=Go, Eller was on the ice most of the time against Malkin, Neal and Crosby. Eller finished +1 and wasn't on the ice for any of the Penguins goals.

He also won 15 out of 21 faceoffs, for 71% success rate.
I love it when the stats match up with observation...

Amazed that people still question how good this kid is going to be....

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11-26-2011, 11:30 PM
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He's doing fine. He just needs more seasoning. The only thing he needs is the departure of Gomez.

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11-26-2011, 11:34 PM
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11-26-2011, 11:40 PM
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What to do with Eller? Uhh you keep him and hang on to him for dear life? Easily our most skilled center and already our best puck posession player at this ripe an age. He's going to be something.

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11-26-2011, 11:43 PM
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When we said all he needs it to play center and get AK back, its the truth.

Results:

On the first shift tonight, he flips the puck in Pens zone , AK forechecks hard, Pens d-man turns puck over and boom. Moen scores.

Second best line tonight.

I hope JM won't put Eller on the 4th line or on the wing when Gomez comes back though. A 3rd line with Eller-Gomez-AK even on paper doesn't look that bad, it would be a terrible idea.

Eller on wing = BAD
AK+Gomez = REALLY bad.

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11-27-2011, 12:22 AM
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When we said all he needs it to play center and get AK back, its the truth.

Results:

On the first shift tonight, he flips the puck in Pens zone , AK forechecks hard, Pens d-man turns puck over and boom. Moen scores.

Second best line tonight.

I hope JM won't put Eller on the 4th line or on the wing when Gomez comes back though. A 3rd line with Eller-Gomez-AK even on paper doesn't look that bad, it would be a terrible idea.

Eller on wing = BAD
AK+Gomez = REALLY bad.
What about Eller-Pleks-Kosty?

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11-27-2011, 12:57 AM
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What about Eller-Pleks-Kosty?
How about the line tonight? Moen-Eller-AK. That line was great tonight.

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11-27-2011, 08:57 AM
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How about AK-Eller-Desharnais?

We all know Gomez will get more opportunities to produce with Gio.

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11-27-2011, 11:01 AM
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How about Pacioretty - Eller - Kostitsyn?

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How about Pacioretty - Eller - Kostitsyn?
Would love, love, love to see that given an extended chance.

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How about Pacioretty - Eller - Kostitsyn?
And break up Patches and DD?

I would say,

Avtsyn/Palushaj/Moen- Eller - A.K

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How about Pacioretty - Eller - Kostitsyn?
Too tall everyone is over 6'0

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Too tall everyone is over 6'0
Kostitsyn isn't over 6'0

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I think Eller will be a star for MTL in 4-5 years, and while his defensive game is great right now, he really needs to improve his offensive game. Mainly, he needs to actually use his wingers. At least 10 times a game he enters the offensive zone and dangles until he loses the puck. That, and he need to hit the net more with his shots.

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