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10-16-2011, 06:08 PM
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Turris

I figure with Enroth being a potential NHL starter and with Phoenix likely wanting a goalie for the future it fits to trade a strength for a strength.

The only problem is cap, this is hoping we could either talk Turris into around 2 million a year or make room by burying/ trading away/ putting someone on IR.

If he turned into a 1b to Roy this would be a steal

Enroth + 3rd

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Turris + Labarbera

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10-16-2011, 06:12 PM
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lol....you're gonna get flamed.....


Nobody wants to give Enroth up...now that we finally have a capable back up...

But at some point...we're going to have to.

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10-16-2011, 06:17 PM
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lol....you're gonna get flamed.....


Nobody wants to give Enroth up...now that we finally have a capable back up...

But at some point...we're going to have to.
at some point, that point isn't now. Enroth is the best thing to happen to Miller, it allows him stay rested and come into the playoffs at an even higher level not being used relentlessly.

The value on Enroth is only going to continue going up as he gets more NHL experience, we've been behind him from the beginning, why bail now?

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I think Enroth can be packaged for a better player than Turris when the time comes. That's just my opinion though. Clearly we'll have to trade him at some point.

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The Enroth situation is going to make for some very interesting posts in the coming months.

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The Enroth situation is going to make for some very interesting posts in the coming months.
I don't really see it as a "situation." We don't have enough cap space to trade him for an upgrade elsewhere unless it's someone on an ELC. When next summer rolls around I expect the market heats up a lot.

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I don't know for sure if I'd do this, but I'd certainly consider it. Turris has excellent talent and I believe he could thrive in a system like Buffalo's. LaBarbera also has decent backup numbers and a winning record the past three seasons.

The only question from Buffalo's perspective is if they believe they can get more for Enroth or not.

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10-16-2011, 07:04 PM
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I'd rather package him for a bonified top 6 center.

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I don't really see it as a "situation."
There isn't one yet, that's why.

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no way jose.. Enroth stays for the next couple of seasons..

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Mark Visentin is likely the Yotes goalie of the future. They need men in the middle, just like Buffalo. The value doesn't seem to be there by need at least for Phoenix.

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or keep enroth and have him as the goalie as the future



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If the sabres make a move, it needs to be for a bona fide superstar up front. they have depth scorers - a **** ton of guys who'll put up 40 points. what they need is another game breaker to help them match up against teams like the penguins in the playoffs.

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I figure with Enroth being a potential NHL starter and with Phoenix likely wanting a goalie for the future it fits to trade a strength for a strength.

The only problem is cap, this is hoping we could either talk Turris into around 2 million a year or make room by burying/ trading away/ putting someone on IR.

If he turned into a 1b to Roy this would be a steal

Enroth + 3rd

for

Turris + Labarbera
If the Sabres are moving Enroth he will be included in a package for a First Line Center or for a Stud in the Back. Not for an unproven Center that is no better than Luke Adam at the moment. If I was Regier I would find every way to keep Enroth as I view him as the starter of the future after the Miller Era.

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Starter after Miller?

You think you're gonna keep Enroth happy for another 5 years?

I doubt it.

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Starter after Miller?

You think you're gonna keep Enroth happy for another 5 years?

I doubt it.
If I was Darcy I would find every way possible to keep Enroth around. We don't have the luxury like the Canucks for example if they were to move Schneider and have Eddie Lack come up from the American Hockey League and replace him. We don't have anyone after Enroth that has the potential to be a starter down the road. Until we have that kind of depth at the Goaltender Position I would do what it takes to keep Enroth around.

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If I was Darcy I would find every way possible to keep Enroth around. We don't have the luxury like the Canucks for example if they were to move Schneider and have Eddie Lack come up from the American Hockey League and replace him. We don't have anyone after Enroth that has the potential to be a starter down the road. Until we have that kind of depth at the Goaltender Position I would do what it takes to keep Enroth around.

Doing "what it takes" consists of $$$$ ... Something this team can't afford..in terms of Salary Cap.

Everything you say is true... I just don't see how it's possible.

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10-17-2011, 12:32 AM
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I figure with Enroth being a potential NHL starter and with Phoenix likely wanting a goalie for the future it fits to trade a strength for a strength.

The only problem is cap, this is hoping we could either talk Turris into around 2 million a year or make room by burying/ trading away/ putting someone on IR.

If he turned into a 1b to Roy this would be a steal

Enroth + 3rd

for

Turris + Labarbera
I'm not a huge Turris fan, but I do that in a heartbeat. Positional market value makes it a no-brainer. Centers are more difficult to come by than a pretty good backup goaltender. LaBarbera would be a suitable backup, and adding a 22-year-old top-9 center with the potential for more is very appetizing.

This is in a vacuum of course, especially if Turris is demanding an AAV of $3m+, a sum that Buffalo can't/won't pay him.

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Hate to be that miller troll because I really do love miller but why trade Enroth? Let's ride miller for the next 2 years than we can trade miller and Enroth will be our goalie for the next 10 years

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Hate to be that miller troll because I really do love miller but why trade Enroth? Let's ride miller for the next 2 years than we can trade miller and Enroth will be our goalie for the next 10 years
Enroth doesn't have the resume (yet) to be seriously considered as a starter. After a full season as an NHL backup, the Sabres and 29 other teams will know. 2 years is a long time to see what we really truly have here in regards to Enroth.

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Starter after Miller?

You think you're gonna keep Enroth happy for another 5 years?

I doubt it.
If we break Enroth in slowly I think it's manageable. Enroth is only making $675,000 this year and next.

Depending on his performance I can't see Enroth getting more then $2,000,000 on his next Contract.

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Enroth doesn't have the resume (yet) to be seriously considered as a starter. After a full season as an NHL backup, the Sabres and 29 other teams will know. 2 years is a long time to see what we really truly have here in regards to Enroth.
Enroth showed glimpses last Season that he has the potential to be a starter and after he single handedly stole some big games for the Sabres last Season that helped them get into the Playoffs.

Small sample size or not Enroth came through when the games mattered the most and that's what counts. I really don't think he needs anything else on his resume to prove he can be a starter.

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Beyond the obviously bad idea that this trade would be, your supporting reasoning is flawed right now Luke Adam is the number one center and playing like he is going to stayu there. Roy is 2a at best, 3 at worst. He needs to pick up his game a bit.

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Enroth showed glimpses last Season that he has the potential to be a starter and after he single handedly stole some big games for the Sabres last Season that helped them get into the Playoffs.

Small sample size or not Enroth came through when the games mattered the most and that's what counts. I really don't think he needs anything else on his resume to prove he can be a starter.
So you think two excellent starts (vs Rangers, at Hurricanes) is a sufficient sample size to prove that a middling AHL goaltender can be a NHL starter? So what if people said his two starts against Ottawa and at Washington were sufficient to prove that he can't be a starting goaltender in the NHL. I think both statements are equally invalid.

We won't know whether Enroth can hack it as a full-time starter in the league for some time. Does he have potential? Sure, but you can say that about a lot of young goaltenders, several of whom will never make that next step.

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Hate to be that miller troll because I really do love miller but why trade Enroth? Let's ride miller for the next 2 years than we can trade miller and Enroth will be our goalie for the next 10 years
Why trade Enroth? Well, under the OP's proposal, we'd be acquiring a 22 year-old center with big potential, even if much of it is presently unfulfilled--but that's the case with Enroth, as well, and Turris probably has the higher ceiling. Getting a center of Turris's age would be a boon to a system otherwise lacking young pivots of his ilk. I make that trade assuming we would have the cap room for Turris going forward. Backup goaltenders and even starting goaltenders are easier to come by than centers with the upside of Turris.


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If I was Darcy I would find every way possible to keep Enroth around. We don't have the luxury like the Canucks for example if they were to move Schneider and have Eddie Lack come up from the American Hockey League and replace him. We don't have anyone after Enroth that has the potential to be a starter down the road. Until we have that kind of depth at the Goaltender Position I would do what it takes to keep Enroth around.
Remember when we use to have the best goalie depth in the league? Ah, good times.

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