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10-11-2011, 03:20 PM
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What's up with Bergfors?

He's been scratched, right? He had a pretty decent preseason though.

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10-11-2011, 06:47 PM
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I was saying this on a different thread..... I am surprised he is scratched after a strong preseason. Seems like the odd man out? Very shocked actually because he seemed to bring some threatening offense to a team that desperately needs some?

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10-11-2011, 06:48 PM
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Thoughts?

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10-11-2011, 06:57 PM
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i don't get it tbh.

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10-11-2011, 06:58 PM
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He should be Erats replacement..

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10-11-2011, 07:07 PM
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he'll get his chance

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10-11-2011, 07:35 PM
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I didn't really notice him during camp. Which means he didn't stand out. So his value is scoring and if he doesn't score, he damn well better have a strong two way game to play for the Preds. And I'm pretty sure he wasn't signed to replace Goc or Ward -- strong two-way forwards.

So, once again, if he didn't stand out as a scorer, he has no place on this team.

We've heard lots about him being this year's Kostityin. SK74 had a strong all-around game. Even last year Trotz praised his awareness on the ice. He said he is a very smart player. I've heard none of these comments concerning Bergfors - nothing about his hockey IQ. Kostityin had value even before he produced points.

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10-11-2011, 08:59 PM
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He really isn't that good.

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10-11-2011, 11:59 PM
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I bet he plays thursday if Marty is still out. We'll find out then. Looking like Svatos 2.0, not Kostitsyn 2.0

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10-12-2011, 10:56 AM
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While in Atlanta, he played with a lack of heart. Didn't work defensively and wasn't really that great a sniper.

I hope the Preds don't need to rely on him - apparently they don't or he wouldn't have been scratched.


Maybe he'll prove me wrong but don't hold your breath.


I think "expect the worst, hope for the best" applies here.

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10-12-2011, 11:05 AM
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"While in Atlanta, he played with a lack of heart. Didn't work defensively"

Well, this is the Predator Way for sure. If this is an accurate description, he'll never make it in Nashville.

I will say that last year fans from Montreal slammed Kostityin. After reading so many negative comments, I was skeptical too. But he proved a lot of people wrong.

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10-12-2011, 12:33 PM
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"While in Atlanta, he played with a lack of heart. Didn't work defensively"

Well, this is the Predator Way for sure. If this is an accurate description, he'll never make it in Nashville.

I will say that last year fans from Montreal slammed Kostityin. After reading so many negative comments, I was skeptical too. But he proved a lot of people wrong.
Hopefully the cosmic tumblers will align...never know how players will click with coaches teammates and systems.

I checked his stats after he was traded to Florida last year. In 20 games he was a minus only 6 times and probably avgd 14-15 mins ice time. Seems Florida plays a style closer to Nashville than did Atlanta, so maybe he'll be fine defensively.

Unfortunately he only scored 1 goal (7 pts) in those 20 games.

I thnik the Preds are hoping for more scoring from him than that!

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10-12-2011, 01:54 PM
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I suspect Trotz didnt want him in the lineup initially in away games. We will see how he does at home where his matchups can be chosen.

wonder if we will see a Mcgratten away(to cut down on shenanigans where we dont control the matchups)/Bergfors home type platoon??

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10-12-2011, 11:41 PM
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I don't think Bergy is the answer to us becoming a legit "scoring" team. Do you ever begin to think it's the system? We'd rather dump, chase and create rebounds rather than just shooting. I'm more so beginning to think this is the way they are taught to play here.

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10-13-2011, 11:07 PM
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I think from his performance tonight, I understand why he was scratched the first 2 games.

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10-14-2011, 12:55 AM
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When he scores, you'll love him. When he doesn't, you'll hate him.

He will disappoint you far more often than he will score.

I can't even recall how many times I did a facepalm last year, when he was in Atlanta, and said "how did he not score there?!"

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10-14-2011, 02:44 AM
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Many on here were praising our GM when we signed him and crowned him the next SK. It's pretty telling when he can't even get on the ice for our first two games, especially considering the injuries we've had.

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10-14-2011, 08:35 AM
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I don't remember anyone praising Poile and claiming Bergy will be the next SK, but I do remember folks saying that it's a similar situation to the SK deal... but then again, I really don't give a **** because it's just a game so maybe I forgot...

Bergfors has some skill. It is obvious. Also obvious, painfully, is that those skills end when the other team gets the puck. The kid has no defensive awareness. He looks like the foreign exchange student on his first day of school out there. Offensively I think if he is given enough time he will create some damn good plays. Unfortunately, if he is given enough time to do that he will cost us some goals as well. Probably more than he will score/set up.

But hell, no one really looked that great last night outside of a couple of players. Maybe he bounces back. Honestly, I think he has a couple of more chances to get it right before he goes the way of Svatos. I just don't see him putting it all together fast enough. He'll be back in Europe by the end of the season.

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10-17-2011, 12:46 AM
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So...How long til Bergfors gets waived?

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10-17-2011, 04:35 AM
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So...How long til Bergfors gets waived?
Can't be too long

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10-17-2011, 07:18 AM
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Remember SK was a fourth line guy last year getting minimal minutes. Some of you turn faster than the Romans did. We're four games in. Is everyone going to turn on Legwand if he doesn't score tonight? Are we going to say Smith needs to go to Milwaukee because he's not ready and that his first two games with goals were all luck? It's not as if we're 0-4 and haven't gotten any points.

It's as if he was supposed to step in, play right away and have 3 points by now. It took a while for SK to settle into his new team. I suspect it'll take a while for Bergfors to do the same. I also find it amusing that every time we make a move, good, bad or indifferent, all the bad parts are accentuated beyond belief. Lombardi scores in his first game and it's a horrific trade. Bergfors couldn't put the puck in the net, he was a horrible signing. That's like saying, hey, we won a game, we're going to be the next Stanley Cup champs. Can we wait a month or two and see how some of this plays out before we consider anyone a bust or that our team sucks or that Poile's a dumb *ss that doesn't know what he's doing?

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10-17-2011, 08:29 AM
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glenngineer, the voice of reason. Thank you!

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10-17-2011, 09:32 AM
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Bergfors needs to take advantage of every chance he gets. His reputation as weak defensively draws a lot of focus to his play in that end. If he doesn't score and plays poor defensive hockey he doesn't stand a chance with Nashville. He has talent, the question is can he apply it and fit into the system.

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10-17-2011, 09:35 AM
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Wait so we are going to judge Bergfors based on less than ten minutes during a game where everyone sucked?

Bergfors had two great scoring opportunities. That is more than I've seen with Cal O'Reilly. The fact he was in position to make plays tells me he is good. Let's actually play him before giving up on him.

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can we have him back? please.

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