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The NHL Goalie Poll AKA "The Luongo Test" - #3

View Poll Results: Ignoring age, salary, etc. and based on play alone, which goalie is best right now?
Ryan Miller 13 8.90%
Henrik Lundqvist 77 52.74%
Roberto Luongo 33 22.60%
Ilya Bryzgalov 0 0%
Carey Price 8 5.48%
Marc-Andre Fleury 4 2.74%
Cam Ward 2 1.37%
Martin Brodeur 0 0%
Niklas Backstrom 0 0%
Miikka Kiprusoff 1 0.68%
Jonas Hiller 6 4.11%
Jaroslav Halak 0 0%
Jonathan Quick 1 0.68%
Tuukka Rask 0 0%
Tomas Vokoun 1 0.68%
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10-17-2011, 01:43 PM
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The NHL Goalie Poll AKA "The Luongo Test" - #3

With all the **** talk that goes on towards Luongo around here, I want an accurate indication of where the majority of our fans actually rank him in terms of NHL goaltenders. We have a tendency to be hardest on our own, but will that reflect when push comes to shove and we actually have to peg Luongo onto a list, or is the fanbase here so put off by him that he actually ranks somewhere outside the top 10?

Only way to find out for sure is to rank. Each poll will last for a day or two (or until there's a clear runaway winner for that poll) upon which a new thread will be started (much like the Canucks prospects poll we run). The polling will end once Luongo has won a poll and is ranked.

This is basically a litmus test for me to see if our fans as a whole are as out to lunch as I fear they might be.

So the question is as follows:

Ignoring salary, age, cap hit, and any other factors besides play alone, which goaltender would you choose for your team to win right now assuming all teams are equal and the only difference between any of them would be the goaltender?

There seemed to be some confusion about the question. I'm not talking about this year (which I thought was obvious) because the sample size is far, far, far too small. To judge, use the past couple/few years.

#1 - Tim Thomas (40.96%)
#2 - Pekka Rinne (40.26%)

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Added Tomas Vokoun.

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Going with Hiller. I think people forget how lights out he really was last year before going down with injury.

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List has no credibility as it leaves out Optimus Reimer.

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Hard choice. It was between Vokoun and Lundqvist for me.

I think Vokoun is going to have a monster year.

Edit: I didn't vote for him based on this year's projection. I thought he played exceptionally the last two years with a pretty bad team.


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Luongo should have won the last poll so I'm voting him again. Based on consistency over the past seven years, there is no one who can top what Luongo has accomplished on a looking-forward basis.

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Thomas
Lundqvist
Rinne
Vokoun
Miller
Fleury?
Hiller?
Luongo

for me. Albeit, I haven't kept up with most of the younger guys.


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This is where I take Luongo, to be honest. None of the other guys have proved as much as he has except for Brodeur and Fleury. Brodeur is past his best before date and Fleury needs a couple more seasons posting numbers like last year for me to consider putting him ahead.

When Lundqvist does something significant in the near future, then we'll talk. Luongo has the slight edge here for me.

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Easily Lundqvist.

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I would, roughly and off the top of my head, rank the elite goalies something like this:

Thomas
Lundqvist
Vokoun
Rinne
Hiller
Miller
Luongo

They're all somewhat interchangable at any given time though.

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I think Lundqvist has been arguably the post-lockout goalie that I've consistently liked the most, to be honest.

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Who knew so many Canuck fans would rate a goalie who plays deep in his crease, has a lousy glovehand and often winds up on his belly so highly?

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based on `play alone`, I would have to go with the NHL`s best goalie so far this season: Kari Lehtonen.

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What has Lundqvist done that makes him deserving of being ranked higher than Luongo?

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based on `play alone`, I would have to go with the NHL`s best goalie so far this season: Kari Lehtonen.
From the freakin' OP:

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There seemed to be some confusion about the question. I'm not talking about this year (which I thought was obvious) because the sample size is far, far, far too small. To judge, use the past couple/few years.

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Certainly, on his day, Luongo is capable of being the very best goaltender in the league. I don't think there can be any debate about that.

The question is whether the Canucks can count on him when things start going poorly, especially in the playoffs. Neither the coach nor the goaltender has proven they can overcome adversity when it comes at the most important time of the year.

Here's a twist on the poll question: If the Canucks replaced Luongo with any other goaltender on the list last season, would they still be capable of winning the President's Trophy and advancing to the Stanley Cup final? I think that makes for an interesting debate.

I believe the Canucks can win a Stanley Cup with Roberto Luongo in goal. I also believe that they could win a Stanley Cup with a multitude of other goaltenders. To put it another way - Luongo can't be counted on to be a difference maker in the playoffs.

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Rinne over Lundqvist/Miller. You're a strange bunch.

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What has Lundqvist done that makes him deserving of being ranked higher than Luongo?
I'm sure people will make something up, but really nothing. Just like Miller.

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From the freakin' OP:
This entire thread is a mockery anyways, so why not vote Lehtonen? He certainly deserves to be on the list anyways.

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I'm sure people will make something up, but really nothing. Just like Miller.
He won a gold medal...oh wait...so did Luongo.

Lundqvist also choked against the Slovaks in the 2010 semi-finals allowing 4 goals on 14 shots.

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Certainly, on his day, Luongo is capable of being the very best goaltender in the league. I don't think there can be any debate about that.

The question is whether the Canucks can count on him when things start going poorly, especially in the playoffs. Neither the coach nor the goaltender has proven they can overcome adversity when it comes at the most important time of the year.

Here's a twist on the poll question: If the Canucks replaced Luongo with any other goaltender on the list last season, would they still be capable of winning the President's Trophy and advancing to the Stanley Cup final? I think that makes for an interesting debate.

I believe the Canucks can win a Stanley Cup with Roberto Luongo in goal. I also believe that they could win a Stanley Cup with a multitude of other goaltenders. To put it another way - Luongo can't be counted on to be a difference maker in the playoffs.
It wouldn't have mattered who was in net if they couldn't score in the final. Luongo's inconsistency has just served to mask that for some people. The whole team, Luongo included, is to blame for the loss in the finals, but the lack of scoring just killed the Canucks.

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Luongo.

People like to say he's inconsistent and whatever, but he's put up amazing stats while in one of the league's ********* team and still shines in Vancouver, has three Vezina/one hart nomination, came one win from the SC, has a Jennings, two WC golds and an Olympic Gold.

Lundqvist actually has a pretty similar repertoire, but he hasn't proven squat in the post-season. Sure you can point at his team not being elite, but then again, Thomas probably wouldn't have won a ring while playing in Long Island or in Atlanta either.

Miller hasn't been exactly the most consistent goalie, not as people make him out to be anyway. Yeah, he peaked at 2010 with a Vezina and a silver medal in Vancouver, but he hasn't been as consistently good as Luongo in the regular season - and didn't make it to the SCF when his team was pretty stacked after the lockout, either.

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What has Lundqvist done that makes him deserving of being ranked higher than Luongo?
Or Rinne for that matter.

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