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Sharks would definitely be interested, he's basically a direct replacement for Seto so it seems like a no brainer they are going to have some interest.
They are going to offer something like:
Mitchell (he's a UFA next year, just for cap compliance)
Wingels/Petrecki/Ferriero
1st
I think that is going to be the max offer from the Sharks you will see. Borque is incredibly inconsistent and somewhat overpaid (compare to the contract Seto got).
Sharks can fit this under the cap:
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.000m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Logan Couture ($2.875m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
Jamie McGinn ($0.680m) / Michal Handzus ($2.500m) / Rene Bourque ($3.333m)
Brad Winchester ($0.725m) / Andrew Desjardins ($0.540m) / Andrew Murray ($0.575m)
DEFENSEMEN
Douglas Murray ($2.500m) / Dan Boyle ($6.666m)
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / Brent Burns ($5.760m)
Colin White ($1.000m) / Jason Demers ($1.250m)
Jim Vandermeer ($1.000m)
GOALTENDERS
Antti Niemi ($3.800m) / Thomas Greiss ($0.587m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,417,500; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $882,500
Doesn't leave a lot of space, but it could be done. Might cause issues next year if the cap does not increase though. It would mean keeping Niitty on LTIR indefinitely (might not be an issue...) and leaves just enough room for Sheppard to return. We don't really have any bad contracts to dump so its going to be tight.
Personally I think if the Flames moved Bourque they would need to address a need now as well, maybe not a big hole like a 1st line center, but a 4th line center that can win alot of faceoffs.
I would think long and hard about that offer, I think that is a very good package, maybe even more than Bourque is worth. Not that I would say no, but maybe this package would be more likely?
to
- 1st in 2012
- Matt Niskanen
- Joe Vitale/Mark Letestu
- some more salary to balance things out if needed
to
- Rene Bourque
- Brendan Mikkelsson/Brett Carson
as a pens fan i wouldnt mind this deal, i like this much more than trading Despres.
Niskanen and Letestu can be replaced from within, if the team is healthy lol
Overpayment. As frustrating as Wolski is as a player, he's still a 25 yr. old RFA with a 65 pt. season under his belt. Bourque's best season he had 58 pts., and he will be 30 in December. He is also on a good contract.
Bourque > Wolski, but not enough to warrant a 1st rounder in a very deep draft.
With bourque, it's not about points necessarily, it's about the back to back 27 goal seasons with the potential easily for 30+. Put him on a line with Crosby and you have a top 10 in the league scoring threat.
I'd do Omark, 2nd, 1st-13 for Bourque. Not that it would happen.lol
Wow, I wouldn't give that much up for him. I like Bourque's playing style, but wouldn't offer up a first. The Flames wouldn't trade him to Edmonton anyway, unless they were clearly ripping us off.
Maybe it is just me but trading Bourque for prospects/picks doesn't make much sense.
Why trade a valuable piece like Bourque (who is signed long term and to a very good $$ amount) for prospects and draft picks but hang on to Iginla and Kipper?
Maybe it is just me but trading Bourque for prospects/picks doesn't make much sense.
Why trade a valuable piece like Bourque (who is signed long term and to a very good $$ amount) for prospects and draft picks but hang on to Iginla and Kipper?
Nobody wants Kipper, and Iggy if kept will be to mentor the young guys during the rebuild. Trading Bork makes sense long term for Calgary.
Edit: Though realistically they should trade Iginla... and still might.
Wolski, Zuccarello, Eminger, 2nd rounder and mid level prospect like Kundratek
I believe the salaries would work.
That doesn't help Calgary at all.
Either offer a 1st / top prospect, and an immediate NHL ready replacement, or Calgary looks elsewhere. Calgary can't take on that many contracts, and non of those, save for the 2nd which could turn out to be crap, will help Calgary in the long run.
Bourque is an important asset to the team, and will be dealt in a way that sees Calgary benefit greatly from the trade. Anything less, and we have absolutely NO incentive to trade him. He's an important player on our roster.
Overpayment. As frustrating as Wolski is as a player, he's still a 25 yr. old RFA with a 65 pt. season under his belt. Bourque's best season he had 58 pts., and he will be 30 in December. He is also on a good contract.
Bourque > Wolski, but not enough to warrant a 1st rounder in a very deep draft.
Wolski has shown nothing that would indicate that he is anywhere near being the same guy that posted 65 points.
I know that some folks tend to point to what a player did X number of years ago and say "He's a 60+ point guy", but the sad truth is this, Wolski has tools, but no tool box. He has no head for the game and it's become an issue for the Avalanche, Coyotes and while not yet for the Rangers, I'd rather cut ties with him and his bloated contract for a guy that has actually scored goals recently as in the last 2+ years (not however many years ago) and earned the money he's making.
To me, Wolski has minimal to no value and the real deal here is Bourque for the Rangers 1st with Wolski (UFA to be cause we are not qualifying him at 4 million per) being a throw in.
