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10-19-2011, 01:13 PM
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10-19-2011, 01:49 PM
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Can anyone tell me with a straight face and UNcrossed fingers that Erik Cole is outplaying AK? I knew he wouldn't and I wish more people knew it. Ironically, Cole is older and has a longer contract at a higher salary.

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10-19-2011, 01:51 PM
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Can anyone tell me with a straight face and UNcrossed fighers that Erik Cole is outplaying AK? I knew he wouldn't and I wish more people knew it.
They are both secondary type players. The difference is that AK has first line talent. Unfortunately, we don't see it often enough.

AK is a good player but I feel like he has the skillset to be great. He is what he is...

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10-19-2011, 02:03 PM
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Loving andrei so far. But for people getting down on cole, just wait. Our guys were starting to find him creeping behind the buffalo D yesterday and it worked a few times for quick zone entry. When markov is back, I expect to see quite a few breakaway passes to Cole.


Andrei's behind the back pass to patches last night was ridiculous. Too bad max couldn't cash it in.

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10-19-2011, 03:42 PM
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Should be 4. Desharnais got an assist in the Colorado game on Pacioretty's goal, but Desharnais never touched the puck, it was Andrei who passed to Diaz who took a shot on net which Pacioretty buried after.
If it's the goal I remember, the puck glazed Desharnais on the way to the net, hence y he was awarded an assist instead of AK. I think it was the correct call.

If you want to find Kostitsyn love you'll have to go to Nashville, no matter how good AK is here he'll still be hated for some unknown reason.

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10-19-2011, 03:53 PM
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People love to hate AK than love him. He's an easy target.

So when he plays well, its yeah whatever.

And if he struggles two games in a row. Well he is mister inconsistent. And people will wonder why he can't not play well 82 straight games like everyone else....

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10-19-2011, 03:56 PM
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Can anyone tell me with a straight face and UNcrossed fingers that Erik Cole is outplaying AK? I knew he wouldn't and I wish more people knew it. Ironically, Cole is older and has a longer contract at a higher salary.
and your point is????

Who cares who is paid more money. AK is playing well, Cole is being slowly introduced to the team as per normal JM style, just like JM is doing with Emelin.

The fact that Cole makes slightly more money is irrelevant. Why aren't you bashing Cammy who makes twice as much as AK and doesn't provide twice as many goals as AK?

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10-19-2011, 03:57 PM
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The fat guy on TVA Sports seems to think that AK46 is responsible for the loss yesterday.

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10-19-2011, 05:58 PM
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10-19-2011, 06:10 PM
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Ak is awesome so far this season. His incredible between the legs backhand pass to pacioretty on the DD goal vs the avs did not caught a lot of attention, yet people are still talking about his bad positionning on the sabres winning goal...ridiculous.

And some haters will still argue he has no hockey sense or hockey IQ.

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10-19-2011, 07:27 PM
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The real question is: "Why the obsession with Kostitsyn?

There's never any threads about Paccioretty, and he's twice as good as Kostitsyn.

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10-19-2011, 07:30 PM
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Can anyone tell me with a straight face and UNcrossed fingers that Erik Cole is outplaying AK? I knew he wouldn't and I wish more people knew it. Ironically, Cole is older and has a longer contract at a higher salary.
Cole is cold..

Outside the first game, A.Kost has been very good so far..

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10-19-2011, 07:38 PM
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The real question is: "Why the obsession with Kostitsyn?

There's never any threads about Paccioretty, and he's twice as good as Kostitsyn.
It's talent, experience and expectations. MaxPac is a rookie and quite frankly we're just happy to see him doing well. As for AK, he's got Kovalev like skills but he's inconsistent. We've been waiting for him to show what he can really do but he only does it in flashes. At this point he is what he is. A 25-30 goal scorer who will net 50-60 points. That's not bad but I think he's capable of so much more.

When he's on though, he's awesome. And I wish they'd just keep him with Pleks. He seems to have gelled with Max too. Maybe an AK, Pleks, MaxPac line would work. Give Plex two guys with size and give AK and Max a good center. That line could work.

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10-19-2011, 07:44 PM
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The real question is: "Why the obsession with Kostitsyn?

There's never any threads about Paccioretty.
Start one...

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thought it was MAD already?
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The real question is: "Why the obsession with Kostitsyn?

There's never any threads about Paccioretty, and he's twice as good as Kostitsyn.
Well instead of whining, why don't you make one?

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10-19-2011, 08:12 PM
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10-19-2011, 08:13 PM
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Cole is cold..

Outside the first game, A.Kost has been very good so far..
I don't think Cole is cold. I think the man is settling into a new system, one that is very strict and defensively oriented. I don't know why people just expect new comers to just come in, do a few practices and play a few preseason games (versus weaker opponents and different linemates every game), and be great right off the bat.
I won't place any judgment on Cole until at least 1/4 of the season is passed. It can take time to get settled in. Sometimes people just click right away, sometimes it takes time, sometimes it doesn't work. Playing for such a structured system can't be an easy thing either. The jury is not out on Cole yet.
One thing for sure, he's been improving slowly every game imo. I think he will help us a lot once he becomes more accustomed to the style.

As for AK, as many believed before the season, having him on a 3rd line with very capable offensive players facing weaker opponents would be a huge help. These past couple games prove just that.
Now, if only Eller could be moved to center instead of DD...

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10-19-2011, 08:34 PM
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I don't think Cole is cold. I think the man is settling into a new system, one that is very strict and defensively oriented. I don't know why people just expect new comers to just come in, do a few practices and play a few preseason games (versus weaker opponents and different linemates every game), and be great right off the bat.
I won't place any judgment on Cole until at least 1/4 of the season is passed. It can take time to get settled in. Sometimes people just click right away, sometimes it takes time, sometimes it doesn't work. Playing for such a structured system can't be an easy thing either. The jury is not out on Cole yet.
One thing for sure, he's been improving slowly every game imo. I think he will help us a lot once he becomes more accustomed to the style.

As for AK, as many believed before the season, having him on a 3rd line with very capable offensive players facing weaker opponents would be a huge help. These past couple games prove just that.
Now, if only Eller could be moved to center instead of DD...
I did not like the Cole signing (and it was way too long) but I agree it's too soon to pass judgement on him. We're only a few games into the season and I still think we'll be a playoff team with around 95 points. Hopefully he'll be a decent 2nd liner for us this year.

We've got to get the D sorted out though so a return from Markov would greatly help.

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10-19-2011, 08:59 PM
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I did not like the Cole signing (and it was way too long) but I agree it's too soon to pass judgement on him. We're only a few games into the season and I still think we'll be a playoff team with around 95 points. Hopefully he'll be a decent 2nd liner for us this year.

We've got to get the D sorted out though so a return from Markov would greatly help.
I don't think our Defense is as big of a concern as most make it out to be. I think our defense was a huge reason as to why we dominated the Sabres so much yesterday. The puck moving from our back end is just great. Having Markov back would improve it even more. The one thing I would do is replace Gill with a solid top 4 D that could bring that physicality aspect. That's why I didn't really agree with Campoli's signing. We already had a bunch of similar Ds, so it made no sense to me. Had we kept Hammer it would have been perfect, what a stupid move it was to keep Gill over him, I'll never understand that. Even if we do go after a more physical D, the first guy out should be Gill.
But I don't think our defense is such a big issue.

I believe our offense will start clicking soon enough, we've had flashes of our depth with the 5goal games. Cammy's return surely will help strengthen it even more. I think what we really need to do is solidify our 4th line. We absolutely need a Faceoff specialist. We can't have our 3rd and 4th centers winning less than 40% of their faceoffs.

Buffalo's 4th line is a perfect 4th line imo. Moen and White are good for it, now we'd need a Paul Gaustad type.

Sadly, Gauthier shot himself in the foot by spending to the cap right away, and also got unlucky with injuries. We have about 12M in injured players that should be gone for quite some time but aren't on LTIR. Not sure why Campoli wasn't placed on it yet.
Eventually, if things don't improve, I believe PG will be active.

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I don't think our Defense is as big of a concern as most make it out to be. I think our defense was a huge reason as to why we dominated the Sabres so much yesterday. The puck moving from our back end is just great. Having Markov back would improve it even more. The one thing I would do is replace Gill with a solid top 4 D that could bring that physicality aspect. That's why I didn't really agree with Campoli's signing. We already had a bunch of similar Ds, so it made no sense to me. Had we kept Hammer it would have been perfect, what a stupid move it was to keep Gill over him, I'll never understand that. Even if we do go after a more physical D, the first guy out should be Gill.
But I don't think our defense is such a big issue.

I believe our offense will start clicking soon enough, we've had flashes of our depth with the 5goal games. Cammy's return surely will help strengthen it even more. I think what we really need to do is solidify our 4th line. We absolutely need a Faceoff specialist. We can't have our 3rd and 4th centers winning less than 40% of their faceoffs.

Buffalo's 4th line is a perfect 4th line imo. Moen and White are good for it, now we'd need a Paul Gaustad type.

Sadly, Gauthier shot himself in the foot by spending to the cap right away, and also got unlucky with injuries. We have about 12M in injured players that should be gone for quite some time but aren't on LTIR. Not sure why Campoli wasn't placed on it yet.
Eventually, if things don't improve, I believe PG will be active.
This is what I don't want to see. At least, I do not want to see PG react to injuries by giving away more picks.

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10-19-2011, 09:40 PM
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He is playing with so much confidence and passion! It's so nice to watch!
Well, I'm quite sure Martin will put an end to that nonsense by teaming him up with Gomez.


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This is what I don't want to see. At least, I do not want to see PG react to injuries by giving away more picks.
I think that's what we'll see this year. If things don't improve, we'll ship out another 2nd or something like that for a patchfix.

To be honest, I thought the trade for Wiz last year was great. It was just too bad that we weren't able to get him back at a sane contract.

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I think that's what we'll see this year. If things don't improve, we'll ship out another 2nd or something like that for a patchfix.

To be honest, I thought the trade for Wiz last year was great. It was just too bad that we weren't able to get him back at a sane contract.
I still can't believe he got that much. I though 4.5 would have been an overpayment.

He's a #4 guy who hasn't proven that he can be consistent offensively. It's insane.

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I think he's doing well. Him and Pac have great chemistry. I still hope Eller will center that line when Cammy get back.

That been said I don't understand why people will be piss if Martin put him with Gomez. I don't understand why AK should have a free pass and be the only forward who ''don't play with Gomez" .

Gomez and Gionta need to be pair with a big winger so I expect Cole,Pacs and AK to play with them somewhere in the season. We have a small top6 so Gionta and Cammy can't play on a line together if they don't play with a big center. There's a reason Ak and Pac cycle the puck well in the offensive zone they are big and strong give them Eller and sky is the limit for this line.

I hope Gauthier sign Kost long term next year. We need to keep our big offensive player.

Next year Gauthier will have to make a decision I hope he keep our 4 offensive big guy
Pacioretty
Kostitsyn
Cole
Eller

and I think he will have to trade two of our small fowards
Plekanec ( won't be trade)
Gomez
Cammalleri
Gionta
Desharnais
Gallagher

IMO Gomez is gone next year because is contract will interest small market and if Gauthier trade another guy it should be DD or Gionta.

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