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Chris Tanev 36 29.27%
Kyle Turris 87 70.73%
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10-23-2011, 04:44 PM
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Rome was playing the best hockey of his career, and we still had control of the SCF going into "the hit". Due to injuries, Rome was on the top pairing with Bieksa. Not Salo, or Ehrhoff, or Edler, or Alberts, or Ballard, Or Tanev. If not for 1 play, Rome would have stayed in that series and we could all have a differnt opinion of him at this point. Lots of Canucks had poor pre-seasons, and maybe AV told him he'd be in the top 6 ahead of Alberts and Tanev, and to save it for the regular season... we don't know. Canucks were doing just fine with him in the lineup: he hits hard, we can use that.

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10-23-2011, 04:47 PM
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Turris is EASILY better but I'd rather not be left with Alberts/Rome as 6/7

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10-23-2011, 04:49 PM
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turris is done, you guys are really out to lunch on this one.

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10-23-2011, 04:50 PM
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turris is done, you guys are really out to lunch on this one.
lol over the long haul Turris is easily the better player, quit taking your Tanev medication.

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10-23-2011, 04:56 PM
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turris is done, you guys are really out to lunch on this one.
lol..."Done" in what way? He doesn't have the same "cuteness" factor as Tanev? Hockey knowledge doesn't seem to be your strong suit, maybe you can start a site that rates the looks and "do'ability" of hockey players.

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10-23-2011, 04:57 PM
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turris is done, you guys are really out to lunch on this one.
the only thing Turris is done at is playing for the Coyotes. He is a future NHL all-star forward.

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10-23-2011, 05:02 PM
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Heh no poll.

But anyways.

Turris 100% and any time of the day.

Tanev is a bottom pairing defensemen at best.
So happy a canuck fan pointed this out

Tanev is a 5-6 d-man at best--from what I saw in 2 games I watched on line this year and games I saw last year--he is helped greatly by the team he is playing on

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10-23-2011, 05:25 PM
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It is turris however prefer to trade hodgson than tanev. A waiver free young defenseman that could fit in the top four is very valuable. Before tanev arrived i was claiming that is the kind of player bieksa should be traded for. Obviously salo got hurt bieksa improved and tanev developed. Still if canucks lose tanev they should make another trade to get this type of asset.

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10-23-2011, 05:32 PM
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turris is done, you guys are really out to lunch on this one.
Explain.

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10-23-2011, 06:01 PM
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Honestly, I don't want to lose Tanev because of the way the team is made up. We don't have the depth at D and Tanev has shown much promise.

At the same time if we did have depth at D, I'd trade him in a heartbeat for Turris.

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10-23-2011, 06:32 PM
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lol..."Done" in what way? He doesn't have the same "cuteness" factor as Tanev? Hockey knowledge doesn't seem to be your strong suit, maybe you can start a site that rates the looks and "do'ability" of hockey players.
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the only thing Turris is done at is playing for the Coyotes. He is a future NHL all-star forward.
nhl all-star? seriously? he's never even managed .5 ppg. his career high is 11 goals.


he was overrated the day he was drafted so high, and every scout agreed.

and fyi, turris is very "doable."

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10-23-2011, 06:34 PM
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I'd prefer Turris. Once acquired, I assume that another $1-2M depth defenceman would be added closer to the deadline for depth.

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10-23-2011, 06:41 PM
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turris without any question. surprised to see how many votes tanev has. he has very little upside past being a serviceable top 6

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10-23-2011, 06:42 PM
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So happy a canuck fan pointed this out

Tanev is a 5-6 d-man at best--from what I saw in 2 games I watched on line this year and games I saw last year--he is helped greatly by the team he is playing on
Yeah he's already done developing and has no room to improve at all. Calling a defensemen than young a 5-6 guy for life is just a stupid comment to make. He's very skilled, great skater, smart, calm, and only going to get better.

I would not trade Christopher Tanev for Kyle Turris.

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10-23-2011, 06:46 PM
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Tanev adding to his frame alone would probably move him up to a solid #4, assuming he keeps his poise and breakout pass. Chances are he'd add more offence, seeing the puck movement skills he's already demonstrated. I don't think he's got #1 stud potential, but there's the potential to be a quiet solid #2 for sure, and little chance that he's less than a #4.

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10-23-2011, 06:50 PM
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Tanev adding to his frame alone would probably move him up to a solid #4, assuming he keeps his poise and breakout pass. Chances are he'd add more offence, seeing the puck movement skills he's already demonstrated. I don't think he's got #1 stud potential, but there's the potential to be a quiet solid #2 for sure, and little chance that he's less than a #4.
Yeah the offense is going to come there's no doubt about it. He has the skating ability to play huge minutes in the future. Our depth on defense will be brutal without him. We'd only have 7 NHL d-men and we'd have to add 2 more by the deadline and with our cap situation so tight that's not a great plan.

Where does Turris play? where does Hodgson play? where does Raymond play when he gets back? why do we need so many small, perimeter forwards? why would we do this???

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So... help me out here... is this deal:

1) Tanev to Anaheim for our 3rd Round draft pick. The move then allows us to do an offer-sheet on Turris?

-=or=-

2) Tanev to Phoenix straight up for Turris?

EDIT: If it an offer-sheet we are looking at.. can we trade for another teams 3rd this season that is higher than our own? Or sacrifice our 2nd IF we were interested in the deal?

I know the outcome is the same... but the questions I have:

1) Why do we need another center? Who is impacted by the move? Turris is not better than the top 9 we have at the moment (especially at center)... and not the style of player we want on the 4th line. I am disappointed by the fact we are looking to bring the latest version of Patrick Stefan to the Canucks.. especially when he has no apparent role on the club.

2) Are we sure we are paying him less than 1.5 million per season? (Keeps the offer-sheet in the 3rd Round Pick territory).


Last edited by drivier: 10-23-2011 at 06:55 PM. Reason: One more question...
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10-23-2011, 06:52 PM
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I'd take Tanev for his upside which might yet be very hight. This guy has come from nowhere and he's still very young. He is likely going to be a top four d man. Not sure how he fits until there is an injury or two. But likewise for Turris - where does he fit in the scheme of things ?

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10-23-2011, 07:03 PM
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According to roster sheet, Tanev not playing for the Wolves tonight.

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10-23-2011, 07:06 PM
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Tanev hasn't shown to be more than a #4 guy in the AHL and people are already saying he's going to clearly be a #4 guy in the NHL? He hasn't shown that he's capable of anything more than #6 D duty for now and has shown very little offense in the AHL, let alone the NHL. It's exciting to get a guy like that for free as a college free agent and he has some potential, but it seems that some people are too blinded by the underdog story to see what Tanev has truly shown so far.

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10-23-2011, 07:10 PM
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Yep Tanev not playing for the wolves.

Like I've stated "Maintenance".

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10-23-2011, 07:18 PM
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I don't think we have the depth to trade Tanev away without getting another D back... maybe Tanev+Hodgson for OEL+Turris? please?

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10-23-2011, 07:38 PM
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Turris is the better player, but he's also holding out with a career high of 25 points.

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10-23-2011, 08:16 PM
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Yeah he's already done developing and has no room to improve at all. Calling a defensemen than young a 5-6 guy for life is just a stupid comment to make. He's very skilled, great skater, smart, calm, and only going to get better.

I would not trade Christopher Tanev for Kyle Turris.

So using your logic Theo Peckham will be a 1-2 d-man?

Sorry Tanev is being helped by the team he is playing with

I could say it is a stupid to comment to say that becuase a player is young he will develop into something more

Tanev is playing what I would describe as protected minutes on the nucks behind guys who haul lots of minutes.

he usually plays under 15minutes a game and usually does not see the ice during high pressure situations

IF he was on an inferior team and playing tough minutes we would not be having this discussion

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10-23-2011, 09:06 PM
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1) Turris is not guaranteed to break out.

He is even less likely to break out on this team:

2) AV coaches this team. If he can't get along with Tippett, who is a similar coach, why would he suddenly light the world on fire here?

3) Whose spot would he take?

It's a gamble IMO, and I'd rather keep a young defenceman who has already shown the ability to play even in a pressure packed playoffs than a high draft pick who hasn't shown anything whatsoever.

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