NFL: 2012 Draft thread

[What the Faulk]

I love RG3, but I just don't see it at all. For me, is Luck, Barkley, RG3, Jones.

[Alex Jones]

To be fair though, I see a lot of Michael Vick in RG3. Well, Mike Vick if he wasn't an idiot.

[ixcuincle]

http://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/sta...17193322631168

RT @CBSSports: Report: USC OL Matt Kalil to turn pro, sign agent - *******/KalilPro (via @EyeOnNFL)

[Avs_19]

USC offensive tackle Matt Kalil has decided to forego his senior season and seek entry into the 2012 NFL draft, sources have told ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen.

Kalil, a projected top-five pick, informed Trojans coach Lane Kiffin, other staff members and teammates of his decision to turn pro. Kalil has received numerous All-American honors this year.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nfl/s...2012-nfl-draft



Now the Vikings just need to finish worse than the Rams or hope that they pass on him.

[ixcuincle]

Griffin better not go 1st

Still all the combine jibba-jabba to go through but Redskins fans are set on drafting RG3

It is the choice they want, not sure how FO feels

[Hasbro]

The Rams and Vikes occupying the gap between the Colts and other teams needing a QB could make for one of the more interesting drafts in a long time. I'm rooting for them to lose for the intrigue. (and the Rams for another reason).

Archie Manning flip-flopped on his statement that Peyton and Luck couldn't coexist.

[Avs_19]

@espn_nfcnblog
ESPN Stats: #Vikings SOS falls below #Rams, so Vikings would have No. 2 spot in draft if season ended today.

1. Colts (1-13): HOU and @JAC
2. Vikings (2-14): @WAS and CHI
3. Rams (2-14): @PIT and SF

Vikings are in a good position but why stop there? Only one game ahead of the Colts right now.

We still have a shot at Luck!

[GKJ]

I'm not putting it past the Colts to beat the Jaguars

Who gets #1 if both Minnesota and the Colts are 2-14?

[Big Poppa Puck]

They Vikings will probably win one of the next 2 and blow everything.

#1 would be so epic either keep, take Luck and trade Ponder. Or trade it for a kings ransom.

[Avs_19]

Originally Posted by GKJ

I'm not putting it past the Colts to beat the Jaguars

Who gets #1 if both Minnesota and the Colts are 2-14?

I originally posted that the Vikings might have the tiebreaker over the Colts but I think it's actually the other way around.

Colts should still get the 1st pick even if they end up tied with the Vikings.

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Yes, Colts SOS is weaker: http://draftheadquarters.com/dhqblogs/?p=790

However, this is still premature as SOS with 3 teams in the race probably involves 20+ teams.

[Hasbro]

Draft order as of this week:

1. Indianapolis (1-13)
2. Minnesota (2-12)
3. St. Louis (2-12)
4. Jacksonville (4-10)
5. Cleveland (4-10)
6. Tampa Bay (4-10)
7. Washington (5-9)
8. Carolina (5-9)
9. Miami (5-9)
10. Buffalo (5-9)
11. Philadelphia (6-8)
12. Kansas City (6-8)
13. Tennessee (7-7)
14. Arizona (7-7)
15. Seattle (7-7)
16. San Diego (7-7)
17. Cincinnati - from Oakland (7-7)
18. Chicago (7-7)
19. Dallas (8-6)
20. Cincinnati (8-6)
21. New York Jets* (8-6)
22. Cleveland - from Atlanta* (9-5)
23. Detroit* (9-5)
24. Houston* (10-4)
25. New York Giants* (7-7)
26. Denver* (8-6)
27. Pittsburgh* (10-4)
28. San Francisco* (11-3)
29. Baltimore* (10-4)
30. New England - from New Orleans* (11-3)
31. New England* (11-3)
32. Green Bay* (13-1)

Pretty Big jumps by Cleveland and Tampa.

this week:
Minnesota @ Washington
Tampa @ Carolina

Next week:
Washington @ Philadelphia
Seattle @ Arizona
Jacksonville @ Indianapolis[/QUOTE]

[eXile59]

The only thing Carolina should be thinking about is defense.

[Big Poppa Puck]

Go Colts And Rams!

[What the Faulk]

Originally Posted by eXile59

The only thing Carolina should be thinking about is defense.

Or WR, since Steve Smith is clearly slowing down.

Definitely agreed. They've played the run better in recent weeks, but DT is still a huge need, as is CB.

[Marc the Habs Fan]

MattPomPom Matt Pomeroy
If Colts lose Thursday, 2nd is lowest they could pick in 2012 Draft. Their best possible Stren of Sched is same as Vikings' worst=coin toss.

[Blackhawkswincup]

Originally Posted by Hasbro

Draft order as of this week:

1. Indianapolis (1-13)
2. Minnesota (2-12)
3. St. Louis (2-12)
4. Jacksonville (4-10)
5. Cleveland (4-10)
6. Tampa Bay (4-10)
7. Washington (5-9)
8. Carolina (5-9)
9. Miami (5-9)
10. Buffalo (5-9)
11. Philadelphia (6-8)
12. Kansas City (6-8)
13. Tennessee (7-7)
14. Arizona (7-7)
15. Seattle (7-7)
16. San Diego (7-7)
17. Cincinnati - from Oakland (7-7)
18. Chicago (7-7)
19. Dallas (8-6)
20. Cincinnati (8-6)
21. New York Jets* (8-6)
22. Cleveland - from Atlanta* (9-5)
23. Detroit* (9-5)
24. Houston* (10-4)
25. New York Giants* (7-7)
26. Denver* (8-6)
27. Pittsburgh* (10-4)
28. San Francisco* (11-3)
29. Baltimore* (10-4)
30. New England - from New Orleans* (11-3)
31. New England* (11-3)
32. Green Bay* (13-1)

Pretty Big jumps by Cleveland and Tampa.

this week:
Minnesota @ Washington
Tampa @ Carolina

Next week:
Washington @ Philadelphia
Seattle @ Arizona
Jacksonville @ Indianapolis

[/QUOTE]

Bears need to go 0-2 rest of year and get in best possible spot to draft a WR in round 1

[Avs_19]

Not to go way off topic but if the Vikings end up with the 1st pick and go with Luck, what's a realistic return for Ponder?

[Big Poppa Puck]

So assuming the Colts don't win out they'll pick #1.

The Vikings are an unlucky snake-bitten franchise no way they win a coin flip.

[What the Faulk]

Originally Posted by Avs_19

Not to go way off topic but if the Vikings end up with the 1st pick and go with Luck, what's a realistic return for Ponder?

I think someone who misses out on one of the QBs might offer a 2nd for him, but I think that'd be the absolute max.

[SpinTheBlackCircle]

Originally Posted by What the Faulk

Or WR, since Steve Smith is clearly slowing down.

Definitely agreed. They've played the run better in recent weeks, but DT is still a huge need, as is CB.

I don't see a DT up as high as 10 or so. Some corners should be there I think

[NYGBleedBlueNYR]

Originally Posted by Hasbro

Draft order as of this week:

1. Indianapolis (1-13)
2. Minnesota (2-12)
3. St. Louis (2-12)
4. Jacksonville (4-10)
5. Cleveland (4-10)
6. Tampa Bay (4-10)
7. Washington (5-9)
8. Carolina (5-9)
9. Miami (5-9)
10. Buffalo (5-9)
11. Philadelphia (6-8)
12. Kansas City (6-8)
13. Tennessee (7-7)
14. Arizona (7-7)
15. Seattle (7-7)
16. San Diego (7-7)
17. Cincinnati - from Oakland (7-7)
18. Chicago (7-7)
19. Dallas (8-6)
20. Cincinnati (8-6)
21. New York Jets* (8-6)
22. Cleveland - from Atlanta* (9-5)
23. Detroit* (9-5)
24. Houston* (10-4)
25. New York Giants* (7-7)
26. Denver* (8-6)
27. Pittsburgh* (10-4)
28. San Francisco* (11-3)
29. Baltimore* (10-4)
30. New England - from New Orleans* (11-3)
31. New England* (11-3)
32. Green Bay* (13-1)

The NY Giants is wrong. Dallas is in 1st place. If you swap them I'm not sure if Chi moves back & NYG moves up.

[JCD]

Originally Posted by Avs_19

Not to go way off topic but if the Vikings end up with the 1st pick and go with Luck, what's a realistic return for Ponder?

Sadly, barring Wilf firing Frazier and the front office, I cannot fathom the Vikings current management giving up on Ponder after one year.

We would net a nice return trading down... but that is still tough to pass on a potential franchise QB for.

Should Frazier, Spielman and crew be fired (not likely... but possible), then I suspect Ponder would carry a second plus change value. He wasn't a bluechip QB coming out and hasn't distinguished himself as one since. 2nd plus conditional pick (or the equivalent) is within reason.

Problem with that scenario: who would be interested? Ponder's marginal arm limits the offenses he can run, so it doesn't just have to be a team who needs a QB prospect, but one that emphasizes the short passing game.

[William H Bonney]

TJ McDonald is returning to USC for his senior year.

[Oilbleeder]

Originally Posted by SpinTheBlackCircle

I don't see a DT up as high as 10 or so. Some corners should be there I think

Brandon Thompson from Clemson has a chance I think.