The way i see it is the Oilers are caught with too many players of the same mold and not enough places to slot them in.
Hall / RNH / Eberle
Smyth / Horcoff / Hemsky
Those are our top 2 lines. Hopefully Hemsky when he comes back is fully ready.
Now The bottom lines are the ones that need some serious adjustment.
PRV / Belanger / Ganger/Omark/Jones
-Omark He's been given enough chances to succeed with the Oilers but again he doesn't belong in the checking/energy role
- Gagner He's coming of a ankle sprain as well as trying to learn to play a new position that I believe he isn't suited to play
- PRV Plays well defensively, But he's challenged Offensively and Does not inject alot of energy into the line up
- Jones Is a good 3/4 rw. the problem I see right now is he has trouble to balance between playing Offence and Defence at the same time. Right now he's been playing on a shut-down line that is also trying to produce offensively. When Hemsky comes back I believe we will see a better player when he is given a defined roll.
Petrell / Lander / Eager
Has been a nice mix for a 4th line but would like to see them get more minutes.
What I would like to see are the following lines
Hall / RNH / Eberle
Smyth / Horcoff / Hemsky
Harti / Belanger / Jones
Petrell/Hordichuck / Lander / Eager
I believe this line up will 1 generate more offensive chances as well as keep the energy flowing throughout the game. There has been too many games where when the other teams start throwing the body Oilers end up becoming passive.
I know everyone is going to freak out about leaving PRV out of the line up. The fact is he is just a kid. Sending him down to OKC would benefit him to regain some confidence in his offensive play and maybe force him to be more physical.
Omark has been tried up and down the lineup. He needs to go down to OKC to remember howto be a dynamic player again. Get him on the 1st line without being shadowed by the kids nor hemsky. Let him be hemsky's fill in a few games here and there when either Hemsky gets hurt or is feeling sore.
Gagner well Its hard to say what to do with him. He has no where to go but now hes being asked to learn after 4 years in the NHL to be a winger. Im not honestly sure what to do.
I wonder if the time is right to try and wow Nashville with a deal for Shea Weber, they can't score, and could clearly use some talent up front. Why not go big or go home.
To Nas: PRV, Gagner, Petry and Barker
To Edm: Weber, Erat and Laako
Most of it's obvious, I'll explain some of the other parts.
Erat is a cap move saving the team some money now and in the future, the "poison pill" for the Oilers, not so awful imo.
Barker is an NHL defenseman, and would generally improve the depth in Nashville, along with Petry, and he has an expiring contract so it's not a long term commitment for the Preds
Laako comes back to create more space on the Preds blueline, and to help out OKC.
I think it could work, and I realize it's a big move to make, but Weber, who should them be given an 8 to 10 year extension, would make this team ridiculous.
a) its too much
b) nashville still wouldn't take it
c) dont even think of adding our next 1st to all of that
d) do not sign him for 10 years, 5 is plenty long
a) its too much
b) nashville still wouldn't take it
c) dont even think of adding our next 1st to all of that
d) do not sign him for 10 years, 5 is plenty long
Yeah, but you would be generally too scared to make this move.
Shea Weber would do more to help this team win now and going forward, then all of PRV, Gagner, Petry and Barker, imo.
a) its too much
b) nashville still wouldn't take it
c) dont even think of adding our next 1st to all of that
d) do not sign him for 10 years, 5 is plenty long
meh... why buy a mansion in Webber Greens when you can get by with a split level for 1/10th the cost in Potter Greens.
The way i see it is the Oilers are caught with too many players of the same mold and not enough places to slot them in.
Hall / RNH / Eberle
Smyth / Horcoff / Hemsky
Those are our top 2 lines. Hopefully Hemsky when he comes back is fully ready.
Now The bottom lines are the ones that need some serious adjustment.
PRV / Belanger / Ganger/Omark/Jones
-Omark He's been given enough chances to succeed with the Oilers but again he doesn't belong in the checking/energy role
- Gagner He's coming of a ankle sprain as well as trying to learn to play a new position that I believe he isn't suited to play
- PRV Plays well defensively, But he's challenged Offensively and Does not inject alot of energy into the line up
- Jones Is a good 3/4 rw. the problem I see right now is he has trouble to balance between playing Offence and Defence at the same time. Right now he's been playing on a shut-down line that is also trying to produce offensively. When Hemsky comes back I believe we will see a better player when he is given a defined roll.
Petrell / Lander / Eager
Has been a nice mix for a 4th line but would like to see them get more minutes.
What I would like to see are the following lines
Hall / RNH / Eberle
Smyth / Horcoff / Hemsky
Harti / Belanger / Jones
Petrell/Hordichuck / Lander / Eager
I believe this line up will 1 generate more offensive chances as well as keep the energy flowing throughout the game. There has been too many games where when the other teams start throwing the body Oilers end up becoming passive.
I know everyone is going to freak out about leaving PRV out of the line up. The fact is he is just a kid. Sending him down to OKC would benefit him to regain some confidence in his offensive play and maybe force him to be more physical.
Omark has been tried up and down the lineup. He needs to go down to OKC to remember howto be a dynamic player again. Get him on the 1st line without being shadowed by the kids nor hemsky. Let him be hemsky's fill in a few games here and there when either Hemsky gets hurt or is feeling sore.
Gagner well Its hard to say what to do with him. He has no where to go but now hes being asked to learn after 4 years in the NHL to be a winger. Im not honestly sure what to do.
What do you think?
I like that line up but I would rather use PRV than Harti on the 3rd line. I know he has not been on his game so far but I think it is better for him to stay here and find his offensive rythm rather than to go to the OKC. But I may be wrong about that...
Omark will not play in the AHL (see my previous post) so I think that the best option would be to keep him around for a couple of months and if nothing changes, try to get whatever possible for him in a trade.
What for? We know what Gagner brings, and that's consistently second line scoring. Turris hasn't come close in two seasons in the NHL. So he might improve to Gagner's level, which is a reasonable expectation. But it's not like Gagner's going to start scoring less every year...he should, theoretically, either stay level, or incrementally improve. Why would you willingly make your team worse in the short term, and possibly long-term as well, by trying to hit a long-shot home run. If they were close, I'd say sure, but they're really not. Voracek? Sure, why not. Absolutely. Turris? Ummm, exactly WHY?
I like that line up but I would rather use PRV than Harti on the 3rd line. I know he has not been on his game so far but I think it is better for him to stay here and find his offensive rythm rather than to go to the OKC. But I may be wrong about that...
Omark will not play in the AHL (see my previous post) so I think that the best option would be to keep him around for a couple of months and if nothing changes, try to get whatever possible for him in a trade.
Yeah that was a tough one, but i think because of Harti's physical play can inject more energy
I think we need to take a step back and look at the big picture..
Fact: Gagner, Hemsky and Omark's trade value is at all time low..
We would be lucky to get a 2nd for either one of them right now.
If we go with buy low, sell high then Khabibulin and our 2012 1st are 2 of most attractive peices right now.
A team coming out of back to back last place finish would fetch a lot for 2012 1st pick especially in a deep draft.
Khabi's league leading performance could attract a team that is in a win now mode.
Could we even find a team that would take Horcoff right now?
CBJ, TB, WPG, OTT, TOR and PHI are all leaking goals so far and could use a rock between pipes.
I think we need to take a step back and look at the big picture..
Fact: Gagner, Hemsky and Omark's trade value is at all time low..
We would be lucky to get a 2nd for either one of them right now.
If we go with buy low, sell high then Khabibulin and our 2012 1st are 2 of most attractive peices right now.
A team coming out of back to back last place finish would fetch a lot for 2012 1st pick especially in a deep draft.
Khabi's league leading performance could attract a team that is in a win now mode.
Could we even find a team that would take Horcoff right now?
CBJ, TB, WPG, OTT, TOR and PHI are all leaking goals so far and could use a rock between pipes.
I think we need to take a step back and look at the big picture..
Fact: Gagner, Hemsky and Omark's trade value is at all time low..
We would be lucky to get a 2nd for either one of them right now.
If we go with buy low, sell high then Khabibulin and our 2012 1st are 2 of most attractive peices right now.
A team coming out of back to back last place finish would fetch a lot for 2012 1st pick especially in a deep draft.
Khabi's league leading performance could attract a team that is in a win now mode.
Could we even find a team that would take Horcoff right now?
CBJ, TB, WPG, OTT, TOR and PHI are all leaking goals so far and could use a rock between pipes.
if the draft was based on todays rankings we'd be picking 25th. Youre doing it wrong.
if the draft was based on todays rankings we'd be picking 25th. Youre doing it wrong.
no one expects us to finish that high even after a good start... especially if we trade Khabi.. Our 1st pick has a lot of value right now even after a good start.
Boston is at the basement in east but would gladly swap 1st with us right now.
as for the shake head on Hemsky's value... when was it lower then what it is right now? face it... his value at its all time low
no one expects us to finish that high even after a good start... especially if we trade Khabi.. Our 1st pick has a lot of value right now even after a good start.
Boston is at the basement in east but would gladly swap 1st with us right now.
as for the shake head on Hemsky's value... when was it lower then what it is right now? face it... his value at its all time low
What are you trading him for and how are you improving the team by moving him
What are you trading him for and how are you improving the team by moving him
I am not for trading him.. We are going to get jack for him, gagner or omark right now.. best if we hang on to them and look to trade players\pick that have some value.
I am not for trading him.. We are going to get jack for him, gagner or omark right now.. best if we hang on to them and look to trade players\pick that have some value.
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Originally Posted by Petro Points
I guess that is where taking a step back and looking at the big picture would come in handy.
Lets forget this and continue to make Gagner\Omark proposals for crap like Turris and continue to pay Horcoff 5.5M until 2015
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Originally Posted by Rennep
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Heh borked that one.
Anyhow, so your saying shiny toys better than proven talent. Gotcha
I would try something like this for our lines:
Hall, RNH, Eberle
Smyth, Horc, Hemsky
PRV, Lander, Jones
Eager, Belanger, Petrell
Omark, Gagner, Peckham are on the trade block for a top 3 dman. I am thinking NYI could use Omark or Gagner. Who is actually out there available dmen any way.
I would try something like this for our lines:
Hall, RNH, Eberle
Smyth, Horc, Hemsky
PRV, Lander, Jones
Eager, Belanger, Petrell
Omark, Gagner, Peckham are on the trade block for a top 3 dman. I am thinking NYI could use Omark or Gagner. Who is actually out there available dmen any way.
It's quite rare to see top pairing d-man made available. As of right now, none.
no one expects us to finish that high even after a good start... especially if we trade Khabi.. Our 1st pick has a lot of value right now even after a good start.
Boston is at the basement in east but would gladly swap 1st with us right now.
as for the shake head on Hemsky's value... when was it lower then what it is right now? face it... his value at its all time low
if you can say this how can you not say the same about khabi?
and if you believe this to be true why would you want to trade the pick
