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10-29-2011, 03:39 PM
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What was the rationale for claiming him right before the start of the season and giving him an opening night roster spot then? A gamble?

I know it's all rose-tinted glasses right now, but this has to be the most infuriating decision the Jets brass have made thus far, especially considering the local (and otherwise) talent that fought through pre-season for a spot. Meech, Bodie?

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10-29-2011, 05:03 PM
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What was the rationale for claiming him right before the start of the season and giving him an opening night roster spot then? A gamble?

I know it's all rose-tinted glasses right now, but this has to be the most infuriating decision the Jets brass have made thus far, especially considering the local (and otherwise) talent that fought through pre-season for a spot. Meech, Bodie?
Yup, so much for Noel's speech that the one's that perform are the ones that play, whether they are a veteran or not, so as a reward for the hard-work at Jet's camp some guys get sent to St.Johns, some guys sit in the press box and a career AHL player, with ECHL speed from a different organization who didn't spend one second in Jets camp starts opening night and actually plays five games.

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Really don't think the guy will EVER have NHL speed, either you have it or you don't.


Skating is one facet of a player's game that can be improved upon with practice. It's not like hockey sense. That is something you have or don't have.

Not saying he will one day become one of the NHL's fastest, but he can improve it to the point where it's no longer an issue that holds him back because clearly that is all that is holding him back.

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10-30-2011, 12:10 AM
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Skating is one facet of a player's game that can be improved upon with practice. It's not like hockey sense. That is something you have or don't have.

Not saying he will one day become one of the NHL's fastest, but he can improve it to the point where it's no longer an issue that holds him back because clearly that is all that is holding him back.
MacLean's almost 24 and you think he still has time to work on his skating?

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10-30-2011, 12:38 AM
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MacLean's almost 24 and you think he still has time to work on his skating?
Almost 23. And ya, you're argument is ridiculous. Boyle was 25 last summer when he completely reworked his technique.

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10-30-2011, 01:01 AM
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If skating is a big reason you can't break the NHL, why wouldn't you take notice and work on it?

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If skating is a big reason you can't break the NHL, why wouldn't you take notice and work on it?
And there you've hit on the real problem with MacLean. The guy just hasn't realized that being able to float around and pot 30 a year in the AHL isn't enough to be an effective NHLer. People focus on his skating, but the reality is just about every aspect of his game that isn't directly related to him putting the puck in the net is under-developed.

He needs to improve his board play, skating, defensive awareness, work on developing a body that can handle the high traffic areas and most of all, raise his compete level several notches.

The guy has the potential to be a pretty good scorer in the high traffic areas but he still needs to figure it all out. Phoenix knows that, and we claimed him so we could take a closer look. Turns out Phoenix was right.

There's plenty of similar players that took well into their late 20's before they figured it out. Maybe one day he will, but he hasn't yet.

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Even though I was really high on MacLean when we claimed him, I don't feel too bad about losing him. He got decent ice time with Burmistrov/Antropov/Scheifele centering him and he didn't really make an impact. I'd rather call up Cormier or Klingberg and see what they can do instead.

I really only feel bad for MacLean himself because since PHX was the only team to put in a claim, they can and will assign him to Maine without needing to clear him through waivers again. If he hasn't made the Coyotes yet, I have a feeling another year in the AHL won't help. At this point next year, he'll be bordering along bust/career AHLer territory (something Machacek is at risk of being labeled within our own organization IMO).

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Agreed. Cormier and Klingberg should be on their way soon. Give them the shot. Also wouldnt mind Postma, Festerling, and Gregoire to get some ice time in the bigs this year.

Also. we should never forget Fehr will be coming soon enough. MacLean didnt impress me too much.

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10-30-2011, 12:52 PM
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At this point next year, he'll be bordering along bust/career AHLer territory.
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What was the rationale for claiming him right before the start of the season and giving him an opening night roster spot then? A gamble?

I know it's all rose-tinted glasses right now, but this has to be the most infuriating decision the Jets brass have made thus far, especially considering the local (and otherwise) talent that fought through pre-season for a spot. Meech, Bodie?
I have a feeling Zinger was the push behind this pick up. Anyone who watched the Moose play against Maclean last season could clearly see this guy is AHL calibre at best. I am not too sure what blinded the Jets other than Zingers love for everything AHL.

My prediction for Maclean's career is 76 games 10 goals 12 assists
5 teams Jets, coyotes, stars, panthers, jackets

His skating is far too poor to play in Europe on the wider ice surface, unless he wins his Spengler cup with Canada.

Time for the jets to concentrate on bringing in some NHL talent, we have enough of our own AHL talent to develop.

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10-30-2011, 06:27 PM
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Conspiracy theory: favour for Phoenix. Jet's claimed him with the intention of putting him back on waivers so the Coyotes could send him straight down to the AHL after re-claiming him.

I'll put my tinfoil hat away now.
Doesn't make any sense. He was still open to be picked up on waivers by 28 teams when the Jets put him on waivers before Phoenix claimed him back.

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What was the rationale for claiming him right before the start of the season and giving him an opening night roster spot then? A gamble?

I know it's all rose-tinted glasses right now, but this has to be the most infuriating decision the Jets brass have made thus far, especially considering the local (and otherwise) talent that fought through pre-season for a spot. Meech, Bodie?
Wow, people will find any reason to ***** about anything.

What exactly is the harm in this? They had already decided that Bodie did not fit. They were looking for someone with offensive upside. They didn't give ANYTHING up to try MacLean out. It didn't work, they waived him, and we all move on. I would rather have a management team that is willing to try stuff. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

People were complaining when we signed Welwood. At this point thank cripes we did, he is one of our best players.

For the love of God.

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10-30-2011, 08:13 PM
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One thing I will say about MacLean is that he was around the net a lot and was near the crease for many of our goals for. I thought he looked better than some regulars when he played, but he was just another Maxwell or Stapleton and was expendible.

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10-31-2011, 12:26 AM
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One thing I will say about MacLean is that he was around the net a lot and was near the crease for many of our goals for. I thought he looked better than some regulars when he played, but he was just another Maxwell or Stapleton and was expendible.
Come on Stapleton's our bantam sized power play specialist.

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Come on Stapleton's our bantam sized power play specialist.
With a pee-wee point shot.

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