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So will Sutton be suspended for multiple games on his Landeskog hit tonight?

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10-29-2011, 12:41 AM
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So will Sutton be suspended for multiple games on his Landeskog hit tonight?

King of curious what response this hit will get from the HF community.

I will let someone else post the video of the actual hit.

I have my opinion based on the recent suspensions, but curious as to the overall thoughts.

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10-29-2011, 12:50 AM
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Okay, I'll post the following link, although someone may have to clean it up for me.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...rn=nhl-wp16098

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10-29-2011, 12:52 AM
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He should get a hearing at least.

Is Sutton a repeat offender?

EDIT: Didn't read the article.


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10-29-2011, 12:53 AM
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see: borderline hits on oilers by canucks in 2 games this season where no suspension was given based on the players putting themselves in that position

hall + edler....twice?
petrell and some scrub

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Stupid hit. Had one intention and one intention only. Landeskog had been playing hard all game and did some things that the Oilers would probably consider over the line, so Sutton took a run at him and caught nothing but face. Was a glancing blow but stupid and careless nonetheless.

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10-29-2011, 12:55 AM
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He will probably get off with a warning and a fine, the hit was not late that helps him. Its not too vicious of a shot. Ryan Smyth did not get suspended and his was more dangerous but more accidental.

Sutton is a big guy, but the fact that hes a repeat offender might get him in trouble in the end.

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10-29-2011, 12:57 AM
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he is a repeat offender, a hit on pascal dupuis i think


suspended. itll give him some needed rest i guess, hes been throwing a lot of big hits lately

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According to the link I posted, Sutton is a repeat offender.

Personally, my thoughts are that it is difficult to argue that it is suspension worthy when the only contact is with the head.

Maybe I am out of touch with the times.

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it was high but his shoulder was in till contact then the elbow. still looked like intent. 1 game maybe

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He should get a hiring at least.

Is Sutton a repeat offender?
1) It's not "hiring". It's a "hearing". He's not going to get hired by someone for making hits like this.

2) Read paragraph #5 of the link.

I think Shanahan will give him 2 games. Sutton needs to keep the elbow down.

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10-29-2011, 12:57 AM
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Looked pretty clean to me. Wasn't even an elbow on second glance. The puck touched his stick when Sutton made the hit. 100% clean.

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10-29-2011, 12:58 AM
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I'm an Oilers fan. I think it absolutely needs to be. Can't elbow guys in the head like that. If that happened to RNH, I would be incensed if there was no suspension - which is why I believe it should be.

If you break it down frame-by-frame, he sticks his elbow out to make contact with the head at the last second. Not really appropriate or in line with the new standards. So, yes.

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10-29-2011, 12:59 AM
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I'm an Oilers fan. I think it absolutely needs to be. Can't elbow guys in the head like that. If that happened to RNH, I would be incensed if there was no suspension - which is why I believe it should be.

If you break it down frame-by-frame, he sticks his elbow out to make contact with the head at the last second. Not really appropriate or in line with the new standards. So, yes.
I thought it was an elbow at first too but watch the video. It's tucked in all the way.

I'm probably going to get demolished by the suspension happy hf community but it was a legit hit.

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10-29-2011, 01:00 AM
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Not an elbow, but a headshot. Stupid play by Sutton, but Jesus, Lando, look where you're going. Olver got rocked last year fishing for a pass like that.

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1) It's not "hiring". It's a "hearing". He's not going to get hired by someone for making hits like this.

2) Read paragraph #5 of the link.

I think Shanahan will give him 2 games. Sutton needs to keep the elbow down.
Yeah sorry I'm a little bit off tonight.

Thanks for the info..

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Looked pretty clean to me. Wasn't even an elbow on second glance. The puck touched his stick when Sutton made the hit. 100% clean.
It was definitely not an elbow but it was a hit to the head. The 2 minute minor was good enough for me.

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10-29-2011, 01:01 AM
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Looked pretty clean to me. Wasn't even an elbow on second glance.
That is kind of the question that I would raise, based on the issues with both the NHL and NFL as of now.

If you hit a player, but the only bodily contact is with the player's head, can it be clean by definition?

The play in question did result in an immediate penalty call.

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10-29-2011, 01:02 AM
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If Sutton really wanted to, he could have destroyed Landeskog, the fact that it was just a glancing blow shows that he did let up, even though he was in the right to hammer him since the puck was there at the same time.

Oh Andy you gentle giant you.

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10-29-2011, 01:03 AM
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From my perspective (Oilers fan), that's pretty much textbook as to what you can't do anymore. Principle point of contact was the head, so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple games for this.

If Nuge was hit like that I'd sure be looking for a suspension.

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10-29-2011, 01:04 AM
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If you hit a player, but the only bodily contact is with the player's head, can it be clean by definition?

The play in question did result in an immediate penalty call.
And it was the wrong call imo. The league is calling it really tight right now. That's fine.

To answer the question, yeah it can be. In fact it's in the rule book. There is no blanket headshot penalty. Sutton is a 6'6 guy hitting a much smaller guy. The head contact was incidental.

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I thought it was an elbow at first too but watch the video. It's tucked in all the way.

I'm probably going to get demolished by the suspension happy hf community but it was a legit hit.
I was watching the game with people and we paused and watched the replay very slowly by frame. At the last second he pops his elbow out again, I'm not claiming to be an expert , but that's what I saw.

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I was watching the game with people and we paused and watched the replay very slowly by frame. At the last second he pops his elbow out again, I'm not claiming to be an expert , but that's what I saw.
And you'll see that in almost every open ice hit. It's not an elbow. I could pull out a million hits that have what you're describing on youtube.

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And you'll see that in almost every open ice hit. It's not even close to an elbow.
If you agree or not, he still hit his head, which you can't really do anymore. Which is primarily why I think it's a suspension elbow or not. I don't really care how tall he is, there is nothing in the rules about height or accidents. Just don't hit him in the head if you don't want a suspension plain and simple.

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10-29-2011, 01:09 AM
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If you agree or not, he still hit his head, which you can't really do anymore. Which is primarily why I think it's a suspension elbow or not. I don't really care how tall he is, there is nothing in the rules about height or accidents. Just don't hit him in the head if you don't want a suspension plain and simple.
This is wrong sorry. There is not a blanket headshot rule. Look at the Malone/Campoli incident or the Hall/Edler incident. The hitee carries some of the responsibility still. Landeskog stopped up slightly at the last second to try and avoid the hit and put himself in more danger as a result.

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