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10-29-2011, 06:29 PM
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Typical russians huh, going home if they send them down


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10-29-2011, 06:37 PM
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If he left to Europe would the Oilers retain his rights?
Yes he does, as an RFA. BUt he could play over there for two more years and then be a UFA.

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Yes he does, as an RFA. BUt he could play over there for two more years and then be a UFA.
Well I suppose that would be good insurance if Hemsky walks or is dealt at the deadline.

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Yes he does, as an RFA. BUt he could play over there for two more years and then be a UFA.
Edmonton could also just trade his rights and I'm sure Omark would come back for that other team. But, you can't be scared of what might happen. And I'm sure Omark would rather be playing in the AHL trying to earn his spot back than sitting in the pressbox every game.

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Personally, I'd send Lander down to learn how to play offensively in NA. I think the defensive system is stifling his o-skills... and I'd want him to be more of Bolland than Pahlsson.

Omark is redundant with Hemmer on our team. One of them will be gone next season.

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Edmonton could also just trade his rights and I'm sure Omark would come back for that other team. But, you can't be scared of what might happen. And I'm sure Omark would rather be playing in the AHL trying to earn his spot back than sitting in the pressbox every game.
I think he would rather be in the SEL or KHL than the AHL.

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10-29-2011, 11:29 PM
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I think he would rather be in the SEL or KHL than the AHL.
Makes sense - they love youtube over there

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10-30-2011, 05:10 AM
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I think he would rather be in the SEL or KHL than the AHL.
He has said in local newspapers that there is no way he is going home to play in the SEL this year. He said this after he had been in the pressbox for two games so I guess he still is determined to fight for another shot in the NHL.

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10-30-2011, 05:33 AM
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He has said in local newspapers that there is no way he is going home to play in the SEL this year. He said this after he had been in the pressbox for two games so I guess he still is determined to fight for another shot in the NHL.
Actually, hes quoted saying that, in no way would he be going back to the AHL, and if it continues they way it has, then he wouldn't close any doors for play in Sweden.

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10-30-2011, 06:57 AM
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Actually, hes quoted saying that, in no way would he be going back to the AHL, and if it continues they way it has, then he wouldn't close any doors for play in Sweden.
Where and when did he say that?

He said to NSD or Kuriren a couple of days ago that there was no chance he would play in Sweden this year.

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10-30-2011, 08:32 AM
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His future in Edmonton is probably as a 13th forwards, providing some offensive depth.

I suspect the RW next year will be:

Eberle
Hemsky (who will sign a short term deal)
Hartikainen
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10-30-2011, 08:50 AM
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Its unbelievable that you acknowledge the age difference, 5yrs at respective rookie seasons btw, and then go on to make the comparison anyway while suggesting that theres no difference in the potential development.

People comparing Omark to Hemsky as a rule are being intentionally disingenious. Hell why not compare Omark to Forsberg..

ftr and just to humor the comparison for a moment Omark last season was seeing over 3mins more toi/game than Hemsky's spot duty 12mins/game he got in his rookie year.
That you have been after omark from start isnt a secret on the hf board!
You have almost never give him credit for nice plays and good games, then you have said that the competition was bad or bad defending, you twist stats to make him bad One example that gags was only - 3 or something before playing with omark, but you didnt mention that omark was -2 before playing with gags. You can argue all year about this but you is the leader of the pack whos hunting him down from day 1 and the majority of the board knows it and if you so naive that you dont think so, try a hidden poll!

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10-30-2011, 09:00 AM
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I don't know if that's that different from Omark. He's playing with Paajarvi and Belanger which is really creating no offense with anybody on it and I'll still say it those two shouldn't be separated. they're doing a hell of a job.

Anyways Hemsky got 1st line ice time after the trade deadline didn't he? Or was that the next year? Either way his production really isn't much better than Omarks.
I think the sedins (with similary cycling game) is a fair comparison to omark or henrik zetterberg, if speaking about production and bloom late a scremp comarison is ridicolous, scremp cant even do something in the sel.

If omark doesnt see any chances even if he rips the ahl up again, like it seem like right now, im sure he will play hockey and then i think khl would be the new home and he can play the wc. I bet if he been send down, he will 1. demand a trade 2. use his out to khl.

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10-30-2011, 09:06 AM
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Where and when did he say that?

He said to NSD or Kuriren a couple of days ago that there was no chance he would play in Sweden this year.
http://www.kuriren.nu/nyheter/defaul...icleid=6139189 (in swedish)

Since I have already posted brief translations of this article I will just focus on the two parts that may interest this thread (and your question).
1. Omark has not yet gotten any indication that he would be going to OKC. Omark comments: "- I am not going to the AHL anyway, it doesn't exists ".
2. Omark on if he would consider going to back to Europe: "- No, that is not an issue, I don't want to play in Europe" but he adds "- Never say never. If it continues like this all season ... but right now I am focused on being here" .

I guess people can interpret this as they wish. For me it means that he will do anything (eve a trade) to stay/play here but he will not go back to to OKC... But I may be wrong.

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10-30-2011, 09:19 AM
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http://www.kuriren.nu/nyheter/defaul...icleid=6139189 (in swedish)

Since I have already posted brief translations of this article I will just focus on the two parts that may interest this thread (and your question).
1. Omark has not yet gotten any indication that he would be going to OKC. Omark comments: "- I am not going to the AHL anyway, it doesn't exists ".
2. Omark on if he would consider going to back to Europe: "- No, that is not an issue, I don't want to play in Europe" but he adds "- Never say never. If it continues like this all season ... but right now I am focused on being here" .

I guess people can interpret this as they wish. For me it means that he will do anything (eve a trade) to stay/play here but he will not go back to to OKC... But I may be wrong.
He is back at it, he is pretty notorious for these little fits. Wouldn't want him to be sent down anyways, OKC has too many forwards the way it is.

What is Edmonton's record with omark playing vs. In the press box?

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10-30-2011, 09:32 AM
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if u wanna have ten years of omark the magician you need to put up with his growing pains. this is something coach renney fails to realize.
omark is trying hard to work on his defense. i am positive that there will some room made for him in the lineup with a trade.

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10-30-2011, 09:34 AM
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He is back at it, he is pretty notorious for these little fits. Wouldn't want him to be sent down anyways, OKC has too many forwards the way it is.

What is Edmonton's record with omark playing vs. In the press box?
I don't think you can call this a fit. He gets asked these types of questions when he is interviewed and is a pretty honest and straight forward guy.

I don't see anything wrong with what he said to be honest.

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10-30-2011, 10:24 AM
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I don't think you can call this a fit. He gets asked these types of questions when he is interviewed and is a pretty honest and straight forward guy.

I don't see anything wrong with what he said to be honest.
Your right, this is nothing compared to the fit he will throw if they do send him down. I've just about had it with hearing "if he gets demoted, he will use his out clause.". Guys like this just really rub me the wrong way, when he is making it known that he won't be going to the ahl. 5 goal Omark is not exactly dominating the league so I don't get why he wouldn't understand if they sent him down to regain his confidence.

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Your right, this is nothing compared to the fit he will throw if they do send him down. I've just about had it with hearing "if he gets demoted, he will use his out clause.". Guys like this just really rub me the wrong way, when he is making it known that he won't be going to the ahl. 5 goal Omark is not exactly dominating the league so I don't get why he wouldn't understand if they sent him down to regain his confidence.
Agree with all of this. I starting to think they should just send him down. At least he'll get time on ice.

If he uses his out clause, then too bad, but I don't want someone who's going to do that anyways. If he stays with the AHL, then he's showing commitment to the team, and he get's a call-up next forward opening that isn't Hemskys anyways.

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I hope he gets sent down, atleast people in Sweden appreciate his hockey skills, and wont order him to play defense instead...

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I hope he gets sent down, atleast people in Sweden appreciate his hockey skills, and wont order him to play defense instead...
Yeah, because he's got some skills that should excuse him from having a complete, NHL game

I'd believe this, if this were the case ANYWHERE else in the league, but it's not. You need to have a defensive game and defensive awareness to be an NHL player, plain and simple.

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I hope he gets sent down, atleast people in Sweden appreciate his hockey skills, and wont order him to play defense instead...
He's like Fabian Bruunstrom.

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He's like Fabian Bruunstrom.
Ah yes, the great Blue and Yellow Hype

Edit: I actually think that he and "the Monster" have really done damage to future employment for Swedish pro UFAs, because these two were such EPIC busts, teams are going to be very very leery to get the "next big Swede"

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Your right, this is nothing compared to the fit he will throw if they do send him down. I've just about had it with hearing "if he gets demoted, he will use his out clause.". Guys like this just really rub me the wrong way, when he is making it known that he won't be going to the ahl. 5 goal Omark is not exactly dominating the league so I don't get why he wouldn't understand if they sent him down to regain his confidence.
Firstly, we don't know the context or tone of the interview.

Secondly, at the end of the year Omark was actually very complementary of his time in the AHL last year, including the playing in OKC rather than going to the Worlds. But in the end he is not a 19 year old kid. He is going on 25 and the comments he made were more to the state that if he wants to be in the NHL which is exactly what he should want

At this point the Oilers should have a very good idea of what they expect his role to be going forward. If they expect he has a place on the team and are just trying to manipulate the roster than I doubt he would baulk at going to OKC for a short period of time. But if this is not in the cards he will go back to Europe where he can earn a lot more money than the $87K he would get playing in the AHL. How many of us would forfeit that much money if it did not appear to be leading anywhere.

Like it or not, these are the first of his prime earning years. He has a right to do what his contract allows him to.

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The point is it's not reasonable to assess a limitation on a player because of a 56 game sample size despite a history that suggests contrary. Omark may never be a scorer but saying that this early is premature.
But it's reasonable to use 56 games in the KHL?

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