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10-31-2011, 03:38 AM
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To resign or not resign Jagr? That is the question

If the man continues to play like this for rest of the year, do the Flyers make a serious attempt to reup him? He sure doesnt look like an old man out there.

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10-31-2011, 04:30 AM
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If he still wants to play, definitely resign.
But for less money - something similar to what Mark Recchi was signed for before he retired.

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10-31-2011, 05:12 AM
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If he still wants to play, definitely resign.
But for less money - something similar to what Mark Recchi was signed for before he retired.
No way!
IF JJ has good year (or better if his presence is benefitial to the team) AND if he wants to extend his career for another year I cant see Holmgren goes to Jagr and tells him "Thanks JJ, good year for you, good for us, 2 mil. is on the table for the next year b/c you know you are one year older...".
I believe that sometimes its not only about the money/points etc. but simply respect for the exceptional player - future HOF.

I think the decision will be mainly JJ decision and money wont be even discussed. I only hope JJ will continue with his good play and even better in PO to accomplish his own goal - to make fans and people who signed him happy.

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No way!
IF JJ has good year (or better if his presence is benefitial to the team) AND if he wants to extend his career for another year I cant see Holmgren goes to Jagr and tells him "Thanks JJ, good year for you, good for us, 2 mil. is on the table for the next year b/c you know you are one year older...".
I believe that sometimes its not only about the money/points etc. but simply respect for the exceptional player - future HOF.

I think the decision will be mainly JJ decision and money wont be even discussed. I only hope JJ will continue with his good play and even better in PO to accomplish his own goal - to make fans and people who signed him happy.
In a contract negotiation? You keep living that dream, brother!

edit: or sister!

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No way!
IF JJ has good year (or better if his presence is benefitial to the team) AND if he wants to extend his career for another year I cant see Holmgren goes to Jagr and tells him "Thanks JJ, good year for you, good for us, 2 mil. is on the table for the next year b/c you know you are one year older...".
I believe that sometimes its not only about the money/points etc. but simply respect for the exceptional player - future HOF.

I think the decision will be mainly JJ decision and money wont be even discussed. I only hope JJ will continue with his good play and even better in PO to accomplish his own goal - to make fans and people who signed him happy.
First, I'm perfectly happy with the way he is playing right now. But the situation is a little more complicated.

His ice time will decrease next year with all our rookies one year older, but the main issue will be the salary cap - there is not much salary coming off the cap and some players are up for extensions.
I just don't believe they will trade some major pieces or let both Carle and Coburn walk to keep Jagr there short term.


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10-31-2011, 05:43 AM
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I think they will resign him if he wants to play. There is a little more than 9 millions available space next year with both Walker and Shelley on the team. I don't think they will sign both Carle and Coburn, nor should they at the money they will both command. I also have a sneaking suspicion that Voracek will be trade bait either at midseason or at the draft, so that is one less player they will have to resign in the offseason.

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If he still wants to play, why wouldn't you? It's Jagr, after all.

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In a contract negotiation? You keep living that dream, brother!

edit: or sister!
You can call me dreamer if you want but I still think that if Holmgren wants Jagr on the team he will find the way to give him the same money and that the money will not play the most important part in those "negotiations".

Still I think this thread is a little bit premature after 1/8 of the regular season... Jagr will go through the slump and we will read threads like "Get rid of this pensioner..." so I would wait till the end of regular at least.

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10-31-2011, 08:12 AM
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If the man continues to play like this for rest of the year, do the Flyers make a serious attempt to reup him? He sure doesnt look like an old man out there.
11 games into the season, I'm pretty sure this decision isn't even on the Flyers' radar.;

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In a contract negotiation? You keep living that dream, brother!

edit: or sister!
I think it will be very similar to the Teemu Selanne situation in Anaheim. If Jagr wants to continue playing and the Flyers want him back, he will be re-signed for around what he is making now or possibly a little more (I believe Selanne gets $4M). Jagr will get a number that is fair to both sides.

But I definitely don't see money being an issue for signing / re signing Jagr. I honestly don't think Jagr will ask for a ridiculous amount of money if he wants to continue playing, and I don't think Homer will try to lowball him.

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I wouldnt give him more than what he's making for more than a year (obviously)

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Once again, too early to tell. Right now looks like a pretty good bet, but injuries, slumps, high salary demands, etc. may change all that.

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Once again, too early to tell. Right now looks like a pretty good bet, but injuries, slumps, high salary demands, etc. may change all that.
pretty much

personally, I wouldnt being him back next year unless he keeps up this pace and signs for less (~$2.5m)

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Ya as long as he keeps up his play lets sign him for less money everyone wants something for nothing....... NOT

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This doesnt need to be asked this early into the season. Jagr is a contract player and will probably play for any team in the NHL that would sign a check. That being said if the guy totals 50+ points this year hes going to get a significant raise from that 3.3 cap hit. Which I dont see the Flyers being able to afford with Coburn and Vorcek needing to be resigned. You could lump Matt Carle into being resigned too but I feel as if he wont be offered another contract with the Flyers.

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Hopefully a 1 year deal only if we do resign him.

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Not sure if he was being unassuming but in the 1st Meet the Flyers episode of the year he was interviewed ..he didn't really give the impression he was going to play beyond this year..either with the Flyers or the league. His language was ambiguous. I think it's just because he wanted to see how he would perform though. If he has huge success he'll resign since he's particular about who he plays with. But who knows.

Timonen also in that episode implied he was going to play 2 years...I'm assuming this year and maybe 1 more.

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Once again, too early to tell. Right now looks like a pretty good bet, but injuries, slumps, high salary demands, etc. may change all that.
Thank you. My first thought.

The guy's 39 years old. How does this thread even exist when we're still in October?

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If he continues to do what he's doing, and ends up with ~30 goals I'd definitely consider re-signing him. But it's Jagr...more than likely if he decides to play next year he'll play for whoever the highest bidder is, unless he really likes it here or likes playing with Giroux etc. It's not like he's a longtime Flyer the way Selanne is a Duck...

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This doesnt need to be asked this early into the season. Jagr is a contract player and will probably play for any team in the NHL that would sign a check. That being said if the guy totals 50+ points this year hes going to get a significant raise from that 3.3 cap hit. Which I dont see the Flyers being able to afford with Coburn and Vorcek needing to be resigned. You could lump Matt Carle into being resigned too but I feel as if he wont be offered another contract with the Flyers.
Voracek isn't doing much to justify a raise as of yet. Coburn also isnt setting the world afire. If he wants more than 4 see you later. 4 is like the bar for premier 1 dimensional d men, of which coburn is not....
I think carle may go...and depending on who's available we can use his salary for that.
How much is Suter going to command? 5?6? Is he really better than doughty or Keith?

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If he continues to do what he's doing, and ends up with ~30 goals I'd definitely consider re-signing him. But it's Jagr...more than likely if he decides to play next year he'll play for whoever the highest bidder is, unless he really likes it here or likes playing with Giroux etc. It's not like he's a longtime Flyer the way Selanne is a Duck...

Care to explain this? In 18 seasons in the NHL, he has played for only 4 teams....and one of those he was traded to (and everyone knows he never wanted to be there).

One of the main reasons he left the NHL in '08 was b/c he wanted a two year deal and the only offers he received were one year deals. He said himself that he wanted to 2 year deal b/c he doesn't like change...he didn't want to sign a one year deal with a team and then have to go through the whole process the next year and possibly have to switch teams.

I have watched Jags play since he was drafted and it is fairly obvious the more comfortable he is with a team/system, the more effective he is.

Moreover, Philly wasn't the highest bidder for Jagr this past off season either.

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Gladly, we've got a long time before this is an issue. Time will tell.

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I don't think the Flyers can resign for Jagr.

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I don't think the Flyers can resign for Jagr.
Is that like the Fail for Nail?

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