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11-01-2011, 02:09 PM
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In NO particular order:
Thomas
Lundqvist
Miller
Rinne
Cam Ward
Fleury
Bryzgalov
Vokoun
Quick
Price
Kipper
Backstrom

And thats not including young guys who will be better like Reimer, Crawford etc.

Dissect this list if you wish (I know you will), but I guarantee the GM's of the above goalies teams would have a hearty chuckle if offered a 1 for 1 trade of Luongo for their starter.

But at least he's got that gold medal and a couple second place vezina votes, right?
Philly might have been interested a few days ago...

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11-01-2011, 02:12 PM
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Philly might have been interested a few days ago...
After hearing Bryz man up and take accountability after a tough game (something I've never heard Lou do), I doubt that.

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11-01-2011, 02:26 PM
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After hearing Bryz man up and take accountability after a tough game (something I've never heard Lou do), I doubt that.
What? Luongo is known for being as outspeaken about defeats like that as Bryzgalov is.

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11-01-2011, 02:29 PM
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In NO particular order:
Thomas
Lundqvist
Miller
Rinne
Cam Ward
Fleury
Bryzgalov
Vokoun
Quick
Price
Kipper
Backstrom

And thats not including young guys who will be better like Reimer, Crawford etc.

Dissect this list if you wish (I know you will), but I guarantee the GM's of the above goalies teams would have a hearty chuckle if offered a 1 for 1 trade of Luongo for their starter.

But at least he's got that gold medal and a couple second place vezina votes, right?
Go ahead and add Hiller to that list.

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11-01-2011, 02:33 PM
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But at least he's got that gold medal and a couple second place vezina votes, right?

he may not have been the MVP of the tournament but he came in cold after brodeur was playing like, well, luongo and backstopped the team to winning the most pressure-filled tournament played on canadian soil.

if you wanna **** on him for that well...you just may be a canucks fan.

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11-01-2011, 02:34 PM
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Well, then they are even I guess.
Games won by Luongo: 15
Games won by Bryzgalov: 0


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11-01-2011, 02:35 PM
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He has the highest expectation to perform in the entire NHL because of his salary, hes good but he dosent get regocnition because he plays as expected. Hes not on the level of henrik or thomas but is top 10 guy

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11-01-2011, 02:39 PM
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Oh no, that horrible 5.3 million dollar per year cap hit is going to come and eat you. Better hide.

When it comes to balancing cap hit, applicable experience and long term success you can't do much better than Luongo.

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11-01-2011, 02:42 PM
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Oh no, that horrible 5.3 million dollar per year cap hit is going to come and eat you. Better hide.
the cap hit is a joke, when people sign 15 year deals with ridicolous front loading

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11-01-2011, 02:56 PM
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many things stand out to me that have seen small if not zero mention ITT.

1. his play in huge situations
game 7 against chicago he was disturbingly good. his save on sharp in overtime was the difference between first-round exit and stanley cup final.
His play in big games is wildly inconsistent. In that same series he let in a combined 12 goals in games 4 and five.

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11-01-2011, 04:21 PM
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the cap hit is a joke, when people sign 15 year deals with ridicolous front loading
that joke is the only number that matters

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11-01-2011, 07:10 PM
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He has demonstrated he takes the playoffs too seriously.
only on an internet forum....


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If the Canucks had had more confidence in Schnieder, they would have played him in game four of the final. This season they might.
when they played him in game 6 against chicago, he served up two freebies that got him essentially benched for the rest of the postseason. i don't blame vigneault; schneider was mentally unprepared in every sense for that game. which would lead me to believe that in the pressure of the stanley cup final, he would have crumpled up even harder.

schneider is a prospect that the canucks just can't press the panic button and toss on the ice. game 6 was a good learning experience, but to get the confidence of the coach over luongo, he would have to outplay him. he did not.

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11-01-2011, 07:54 PM
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Another interesting tidbit is that Luongo played best on weaker teams. Aka Florida, and his best year on the Canucks was when they had garbage offence.
Yes how interesting... a goalie appears to be better when playing on a weaker team that has to little chance but to rely on him to win games. Am I the only one that notices the fallacy in this?

(hint: being on a weak team gives the goalie an opportunity to be put in the spot light, for example whenever the Swiss play team Canada. It doesn't necessarily make them a better goalie)

This is relevant to Luongo since he has been in that situation and excelled, however now that in recent memory he's played for good teams all credit gets stripped away by trolls and pessimists.

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11-01-2011, 07:57 PM
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Also, it's generally not a good idea to talk about a decline in Luongo during the month of October in the middle of a slow start when he's notorious for being a slow starter but has always bounced back into top form.

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11-01-2011, 08:01 PM
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Also, it's generally not a good idea to talk about a decline in Luongo during the month of October in the middle of a slow start when he's notorious for being a slow starter but has always bounced back into top form.
I don't mind it. Makes it more fun to bump the thread later on.

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11-01-2011, 08:16 PM
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I don't mind it. Makes it more fun to bump the thread later on.
like in April

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11-01-2011, 08:26 PM
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like in April
Pretty good one last year. Bolland finished crying on twitter yet?

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11-01-2011, 08:31 PM
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Miller was better than Luongo in the Olympics. Even though Luongo won gold he still let in a goal in the last minute to allow the U.S. to bring it to O.T.

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11-01-2011, 08:46 PM
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And Miller let in a weak goal that lost the US the gold in OT.

Better? Hmmm... If you say so.

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As much as I hate canucks/Lou I'd love to see him go elsewhere. I think that he would be outstanding in a different city where the media/fans aren't pressuring him so much. Anyone would crack under that.

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11-01-2011, 09:33 PM
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And Miller let in a weak goal that lost the US the gold in OT.

Better? Hmmm... If you say so.
He carried his team to even get them to that game. Luongo just had to be good with that roster. Miller had to be great.

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I really don't understand a lot of the Luongo hate. He was relatively inconsistent in the finals but you can hardly blame the series loss on his goaltending. Game seven was a bad game for him but you have to keep in mind the canucks wouldn't even have made it to the finals without some of his earlier performances in the post season. You can't really blame the entire teams defeat on one goaltender. He's a scapegoat and that's about it.

In other news, we know Canuck fan's are upset with Luongo. We've heard it 10,000 times. I don't see how the 26th thread this week makes it news.

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He carried his team to even get them to that game. Luongo just had to be good with that roster. Miller had to be great.
This argument gives Team USA absolutely no credit.


This just in: Based on all up-to-the-minute info, if Luongo is on a steady decline, then Kiprusoff has fallen off the edge of the earth.

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11-01-2011, 10:04 PM
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This argument gives Team USA absolutely no credit.


This just in: Based on all up-to-the-minute info, if Luongo is on a steady decline, then Kiprusoff has fallen off the edge of the earth.
Find one person who didn't think he was their best player.

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I really don't understand a lot of the Luongo hate. He was relatively inconsistent in the finals but you can hardly blame the series loss on his goaltending. Game seven was a bad game for him but you have to keep in mind the canucks wouldn't even have made it to the finals without some of his earlier performances in the post season. You can't really blame the entire teams defeat on one goaltender. He's a scapegoat and that's about it.

In other news, we know Canuck fan's are upset with Luongo. We've heard it 10,000 times. I don't see how the 26th thread this week makes it news.
I'm sorry, how exactly is that an excuse for his play in the finals?

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