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10-31-2011, 11:04 PM
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Sidney Crosby's beast mode vs Peter Forsberg's beast mode

Sidney Crosby's playoff ppg avg. 62gp 30 g, 62 a, 82 pts = 1.33 ppg

extrapolated over 82 games: 39 goals, 70 assists, 109 points


Peter Forsberg's playoff ppg avg. 151gp 64 goals, 107 assists, 171 pts = 1.13 ppg

extrapolated over 82 games: 34 goals, 58 assists, 92 points


Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Sidney Crosby in beast mode. Enjoy..










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10-31-2011, 11:17 PM
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As someone who watched and truly understands both; Crosby.

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Umm...ok OP. But aside from the Forsberg comparative stat you posted what does this have to do with being "vs." Forsberg? Especially when there's no Forsberg vids to compare to Sid's.

Besides as good as Forsberg was, everyone should know Crosby is better.

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I love how it's definitively Crosby because two Penguins fans say so.

No Forsberg at his best is potentially the best player to play the game... Gretzky even admitted that.

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Umm...ok OP. But aside from the Forsberg comparative stat you posted what does this have to do with being "vs." Forsberg? Especially when there's no Forsberg vids to compare to Sid's.

Besides as good as Forsberg was, everyone should know Crosby is better.
As someone who couldn't / can't stand either I would say skill wise it's a wash but would give the physical part of the game a large nod to Forsberg. Health wise it's starting to look a wash as well.

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10-31-2011, 11:24 PM
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Crosby.

Injury free Forsberg? Maybe a tie at best.

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Umm...ok OP. But aside from the Forsberg comparative stat you posted what does this have to do with being "vs." Forsberg? Especially when there's no Forsberg vids to compare to Sid's.

Besides as good as Forsberg was, everyone should know Crosby is better.
I want to get opinions on who was better when both were in "beast mode"

The 90's nostalgia crowd will undoubtably bring up "bu, but it was the clutch and grab era"


Crosby doesn't exactly play in a wide open era himself, nor has he ever played with a linemate close to Hejduk or Tanguay.

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No player post-Gretzky/Lemieux has brought fear into me like Forsberg has. The game looked different when he was on the ice.

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Forsberg played in a clutch and grab era and in the western conference during the 90s. The teams he racked up points against were all perennial cup contenders. I think his playoff numbers are actually far more impressive than Crosbys. I still think Sids a better and more talented player, but beast mode implies playing at a higher level than usual and Forsberg did that in the post season.

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Forsberg was the flashier player, Crosby is just better at pretty much all facets of the game except maybe physicality.

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Forsberg underrated. He was so good.

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I want to get opinions on who was better when both were in "beast mode"

The 90's nostalgia crowd will undoubtably bring up "bu, but it was the clutch and grab era"


Crosby doesn't exactly play in a wide open era himself, nor has he ever played with a linemate close to Hejduk or Tanguay.
The game was different and that can't be overlooked. The line-mate argument might be legit but Sid has never faced some of the powerhouse teams Forsberg had to deal with in the playoffs. [ Dallas / Wings and to some extent St Louis ]
I still give Forsberg the nod because of his physicality and mean streak.

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As someone who couldn't / can't stand either I would say skill wise it's a wash but would give the physical part of the game a large nod to Forsberg. Health wise it's starting to look a wash as well.
Crosby's on ice vision blows apart the skill category.

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No Forsberg at his best is potentially the best player to play the game... Gretzky even admitted that.
Wayne is as humble as they come. That's overrating a player who wasn't even the third best of his generation.

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Crosby's on ice vision blows apart the skill category.
Either you never watched Forsberg in live action or your recollection is poor. Forsberg's playmaking ability was brilliant. No playmaker since him, Crosby included, has been able to change the speed of the game as much as Forsberg did. I remember always thinking to myself when Forsberg stepped on the ice, "it's like he has a button to make everything seem it's occuring in slow motion." He controlled the ice with his vision and skill to a level that very few have ever done.

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And I bet OP has no idea how to deal with statistics.. Your sample sizes are stupid.

You're comparing 62 of Crosby's playoff games to Forsberg's 151? wow...

Okay lets do this

Let's compare Sidney Crosby's 62 playoff games to Forsberg's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th year Playoff Seasons k? k.

Sidney Crosby
GP 62
G 32
A 50
P 82

Peter Forsberg
GP 49
G 29
A 44
P 73

Adjusted to 82 games

Crosby: 42+66=108
Forsberg: 49+74=123



Sorry dude... FORSBERG WINS


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I love how it's definitively Crosby because two Penguins fans say so.

No Forsberg at his best is potentially the best player to play the game... Gretzky even admitted that.
Listen to the praise Lemieux gave to Crosby. Orr to Crosby. Gretzky to Crosby. Messier to Crosby.

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Either you never watched Forsberg in live action or your recollection is poor. Forsberg's playmaking ability was brilliant. No playmaker since him, Crosby included, has been able to change the speed of the game as much as Forsberg did. I remember always thinking to myself when Forsberg stepped on the ice, "it's like he has a button to make everything seem it's occuring in slow motion." He controlled the ice with his vision and skill to a level that very few have ever done.
Crosby's passes are so quick and accurate, they look like normal passes. Nothing sexy in his play, he just contributes. If Crosby had a playing style similar to Datsyuk, people would pump his tires continuously.

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And I bet OP has no idea how to deal with statistics.. Your sample sizes are stupid.

You're comparing 62 of Crosby's playoff games to Forsberg's 151? wow...

Okay lets do this

Let's compare Sidney Crosby's 62 playoff games to Forsberg's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th year Playoff Seasons k? k.

Sidney Crosby
GP 62
G 32
A 50
P 82

Peter Forsberg
GP 49
G 29
A 44
P 73

Adjusted to 82 games

Crosby: 42+66=108
Forsberg: 49+74=123



Sorry dude... FORSBERG WINS

Why cherry pick sample sizes?

Forsberg reg season PPG: 1.25 ppg
Crosby reg season PPG: 1.38

Forsberg playoff PPG: 1.13 ppg
Crosby playoff PPG: 1.32

I rest my case.

Even compare peak seasons, Crosby has better PPG.

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Why cherry pick sample sizes?

Forsberg reg season PPG: 1.25 ppg
Crosby reg season PPG: 1.38

Forsberg playoff PPG: 1.13 ppg
Crosby playoff PPG: 1.32

I rest my case.

Even compare peak seasons, Crosby has better PPG.
Cherry pick? Do you think Crosby would have sustained 1.38 ppg for a CAREER? No you obviously don't know how to deal with statistics

You don't compare a kid's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th seasons to an injury riddled player's CAREER playoff games?

What?


That's why you pick sample sizes that are equal in value and quantity.

Value meaning Forsbergs 2nd-5th seasons too.

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Cherry pick? Do you think Crosby would have sustained 1.38 ppg for a CAREER? No you obviously don't know how to deal with statistics

You don't compare a kid's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th seasons to an injury riddled player's CAREER playoff games?

What?


That's why you pick sample sizes that are equal in value and quantity.

Value meaning Forsbergs 2nd-5th seasons too.
Forsberg also put up #s against the grind line with Lids and Vladdy waiting for him @ the blue-line.
He also put up those #s and wrecked people.

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