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Sidney Crosby's beast mode vs Peter Forsberg's beast mode

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10-31-2011, 11:58 PM
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Peter Forsberg.

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Okay lets do this

Let's compare Sidney Crosby's 62 playoff games to Forsberg's 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th year Playoff Seasons k? k.

Sidney Crosby
GP 62
G 32
A 50
P 82

Peter Forsberg
GP 49
G 29
A 44
P 73



Sorry dude... FORSBERG WINS

Numbers don't add up. Forsberg scored those 73 points in 62 games, not 49.

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11-01-2011, 12:10 AM
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Numbers don't add up. Forsberg scored those 73 points in 62 games, not 49.


Accidentally used the the wrong seasons for GP's

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11-01-2011, 12:11 AM
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Another poster mentioned the clutch and grab era when Forsberg played, and rightfully so I think. Playoffs in particular were notorious for players taking all kinds of liberties with the other team. Forsberg had guys draped on him like a cape while he scored goals.

Crosby is getting much deserved respect. But I'll take Forsberg and I don't think anyone could argue that it is the wrong choice.

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11-01-2011, 12:14 AM
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I'm not going to participate on behalf of the "beast-mode and other words that are signs of stupidity of my generation should not be encouraged and wiped out as soon as convenient" faction

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11-01-2011, 12:38 AM
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Forsberg.

Never have I seen a player quite like him. The most dominating player I have ever seen with the puck.

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11-01-2011, 12:39 AM
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Either you never watched Forsberg in live action or your recollection is poor. Forsberg's playmaking ability was brilliant. No playmaker since him, Crosby included, has been able to change the speed of the game as much as Forsberg did. I remember always thinking to myself when Forsberg stepped on the ice, "it's like he has a button to make everything seem it's occuring in slow motion." He controlled the ice with his vision and skill to a level that very few have ever done.
That's exactly what Joe Thornton does. As far as this debate, just watching that youtube video reminds me of just how bad the clutch and grab era was for star players like Forsberg. Guys were draped over him like a blanket and he still beasted on them

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11-01-2011, 12:43 AM
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Biased opinion going with Forsberg based on how he played against Detroit in the late 90s and early 00s.

Only went up against Crosby twice in the post-season, with completely different teams, so the sample size is quite small. But either way, Forsberg was beastly.

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11-01-2011, 12:44 AM
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11-01-2011, 12:54 AM
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Nostalgia does funny things to people's reasoning skills, doesn't it?

Crosby AINEC.

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11-01-2011, 01:40 AM
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Pens fan voting for Forsberg.

Forsberg at his best was the best player i've seen not named Lemieux.

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11-01-2011, 01:52 AM
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Crosby's on ice vision blows apart the skill category.
You have got to be one of the worst poster on this board. Every post I read from you is just ignorant

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11-01-2011, 02:03 AM
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Let me get this straight.

You are comparing two players objectively, but use 4 clips of Crosby domination, and none of Forsberg?

The ppg is also a really unfair comparison since it doesn't tell the whole story. Forsberg spent most of his career and his peak in the dead hockey era.


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Nostalgia does funny things to people's reasoning skills, doesn't it?

Crosby AINEC.
Are you saying the same thing when people pimp Orr, Harvey and Shore?

No, didn't think so.




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11-01-2011, 02:05 AM
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Sidney Crosby's playoff ppg avg. 62gp 30 g, 62 a, 82 pts = 1.33 ppg

Math?


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11-01-2011, 02:32 AM
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Give Forsberg (in his prime) todays NHL. Watch him score 30 points more per year than Crosby. Crosby has been pampered and given all the respect and treatment that the refs and league can to help him. Truth brought up about the Era Foppa played in, Crosby would have not been as dominant in the 90's. Wings and Stars would have eaten him for breakfast.

Watching all of the highlight videos, you really realize also how special a player Sakic was. As good as Forsberg was, he was always wearing the A. Goes to Philly and takes on the C. I miss those years.


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Regular season i'll give it too crosby, but playoffs is forsberg

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11-01-2011, 02:57 AM
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Remember folks..

Crosby has missed 93 games due to injury (at this point) in his 7th NHL-season.
After Forsberg's first 7 years in the NHL he had missed 74 games due to injury.

As it stands now, Crosby is more injury-prone than Forsberg was.

(One hockeyfan as myself could only hope that changes though).

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Remember folks..

Crosby has missed 93 games due to injury (at this point) in his 7th NHL-season.
After Forsberg's first 7 years in the NHL he had missed 74 games due to injury.

As it stands now, Crosby is more injury-prone than Forsberg was.

(One hockeyfan as myself could only hope that changes though).
I wonder how many games he would have missed before they started to protect offensive players so much.

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11-01-2011, 03:16 AM
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I love how it's definitively Crosby because two Penguins fans say so.

No Forsberg at his best is potentially the best player to play the game... Gretzky even admitted that.
No. God no.

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11-01-2011, 03:19 AM
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Forsberg "AINEC"

As Ive said before, most poster around theese boards dosnt seem to know how good Forsberg was. Crosby is the best player today, but he dosnt come close to the raw skill and power that was Forsberg and Lindros and Jagr in the 90's. Forsbergs playoff resume is much more impressive than Crosbys, and when comparing "beast modes" just look up Forsberg on youtube and watch how he dangles around whole TEAMS in the offensive zone and then set up someone with a perfect pass or a wrap
around. I remeber how people were raving when
Crosby toyed with Spezza in one sequence. Thats what Forsberg did with whole teams all the time..

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11-01-2011, 03:25 AM
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/shrug

I think there're people on these boards who don't understand how good Forsberg was.

At his best, Forsberg was THE most complete player in the game.

Mind you, even then, Jagr at his best was easily better than Foppa, Crosby or Ovechkin.

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11-01-2011, 03:42 AM
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WOW Crosby really dominates those Islanders and Ottawa games! Now lets see he dominates good teams.

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I think there're people on these boards who don't understand how good Forsberg was.

At his best, Forsberg was THE most complete player in the game.

Mind you, even then, Jagr at his best was easily better than Foppa, Crosby or Ovechkin.
The Jagr v. Foppa argument is much better than the Forsberg v. Crosby argument. Jagr did amazing things, but so did Forsberg, I might even call it a wash.

As for the first part, I think a majority of these forums are too young to remember how great Forsberg was.

I am 25 years old, and just caught it myself and only saw it because I am an Avalanche fan who lives in Colorado. It was hard not to miss around here if you were a hockey fan. Anything Crosby can do, Forsberg could do better.

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11-01-2011, 04:33 AM
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The Jagr v. Foppa argument is much better than the Forsberg v. Crosby argument. Jagr did amazing things, but so did Forsberg, I might even call it a wash.

As for the first part, I think a majority of these forums are too young to remember how great Forsberg was.

I am 25 years old, and just caught it myself and only saw it because I am an Avalanche fan who lives in Colorado. It was hard not to miss around here if you were a hockey fan. Anything Crosby can do, Forsberg could do better.
this statement is clearly based on facts. very credible.

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this statement is clearly based on facts. very credible.
I've never seen Crosby score a goal with 3 people draped on him. I've never seen Crosby skate through an entire team. I've never seen Crosby smashed across the boards and then move in and score a goal on his knees.

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