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06-06-2012, 04:25 PM
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My guess right now:

Parise - Kesler - Kane
Ryan - Stastny - Kessel
Pacioretty - Pavelski - Brown
Oshie - Backes - Callahan

Suter - J. Johnson
Yandle - E. Johnson
McDonagh - Carlson

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Defense is pretty tough to predict but I like those players chances. Pretty sick team IMO.
The only change I would make is to move Ryan off of Stastny's line. Those two are talented enough to make something happen, but they don't play complementary styles.

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06-08-2012, 07:53 PM
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Brown - Backes - Callahan .... only!

do not put Oshie on that line, I love Oshie and the kid brings it as well, but that line is the ultimate badass shutdown line you could ever want.

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06-09-2012, 11:22 PM
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Any chance that Cam Fowler makes the team?

I have to say that if we were to freeze the teams now, you guys would have to be a heavy favourite in 2014....you have depth on all of Off/D/Goal. Canada's problem is it's has a tidal wave of forwards and after that thing get questionable...but that's whining for Canada's thread

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06-09-2012, 11:32 PM
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Any chance that Cam Fowler makes the team?

I have to say that if we were to freeze the teams now, you guys would have to be a heavy favourite in 2014....you have depth on all of Off/D/Goal. Canada's problem is it's has a tidal wave of forwards and after that thing get questionable...but that's whining for Canada's thread
If the team were to be named soon? Probably not. But there's still a full season and a half to go and Fowler will certainly be in the mix in that time frame. He's still so young and his game should grow leaps and bounds in that time.

Almost all of the American d-men that will be in contention will be young though so a lot can obviously happen in 18 months. Some guys are going to come on strong and some guys will fall off. Hopefully they all continue to get better and make the decisions unbearably tough.

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06-10-2012, 12:46 AM
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If the team were to be named soon? Probably not. But there's still a full season and a half to go and Fowler will certainly be in the mix in that time frame. He's still so young and his game should grow leaps and bounds in that time.

Almost all of the American d-men that will be in contention will be young though so a lot can obviously happen in 18 months. Some guys are going to come on strong and some guys will fall off. Hopefully they all continue to get better and make the decisions unbearably tough.
yeah, that's the same thing canada has offensively from the 2010 draft (and 2011 re Nugent Hopkins)...a bunch of "on the cusp" players who you can't probably make a decision about until close to when the team is being decided.

...it would be nice to see fowler develop enough to make your team, though!

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06-13-2012, 11:37 PM
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yeah, that's the same thing canada has offensively from the 2010 draft (and 2011 re Nugent Hopkins)...a bunch of "on the cusp" players who you can't probably make a decision about until close to when the team is being decided.

...it would be nice to see fowler develop enough to make your team, though!
love the avatar User...you know your a closet USA fan!!!

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06-14-2012, 11:02 PM
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Crazy thought alert:

One thing the us really lacks is offensive creativity, outside of Patrick Kane.


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06-15-2012, 03:19 AM
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love the avatar User...you know your a closet USA fan!!!
I totally am! I think the greatest moment in US hockey history was when Miller let in that weak goal from Crosby...which got turned into (by Canadians) the greatest goal that has ever been scored in the history of hockey

I've decided to "double fist" by honouring Kane (my favourite) player, while proudly displaying my country of origin. So, if Canada wins in 2014, I will cheer loudly...and if it, inevitably, loses b/c of, er, "goal tending issues"...i'll claim that I was cheering for Kane all along (b/c if i don't, he knows how to stab a ***** with an icicle)

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06-18-2012, 03:05 PM
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My guess at this point is Howard or Schneider as the third goalie. Can't see Thomas or Campbell being an option.

I also imagine McDonaugh will be in everybody's top four by the end of next season. Faulk and Gardiner are promising, but don't see them over Erik Johnson and certainly not ahead of Yandle.

Admittedly, I don't know enough about him, but Galchenyuk seems like a bold call for the top six already. I'd rather have Kesler centering a top six line.


Unrelated, but I'm still really intrigued by the "Byfuglien factor." Does he get a look? Should he be brought along as a 13th forward type? An overall disturbance? I imagine him on big ice might prohibit him from D.

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06-18-2012, 07:31 PM
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In two seasons I can honestly see Faulk surpassing E. Johnson.


That kid has super talent. It's only two years away, so that's tough, but I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.

Of the young kids (1990-) I'd say Fowler and Faulk are the ones with the best shot at grabbing a spot. Bogosian would need to really accelerate his development and I just don't see it from Gardiner.

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06-19-2012, 04:41 PM
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My guess at this point is Howard or Schneider as the third goalie. Can't see Thomas or Campbell being an option.

I also imagine McDonaugh will be in everybody's top four by the end of next season. Faulk and Gardiner are promising, but don't see them over Erik Johnson and certainly not ahead of Yandle.

Admittedly, I don't know enough about him, but Galchenyuk seems like a bold call for the top six already. I'd rather have Kesler centering a top six line.


Unrelated, but I'm still really intrigued by the "Byfuglien factor." Does he get a look? Should he be brought along as a 13th forward type? An overall disturbance? I imagine him on big ice might prohibit him from D.
I have Buff on my squad and I think he should make the team as well. He can play either forward or defense, you can park him infront of the Canada goalie as he will likely bother the hell out of whoever that may be...or you can have him man the point on the power play and just blast it away from the point.

Any way you slice it, big ice or not, Buff is a player seriously in the mix as he can offer plenty of things that we simply do not have otherwise...

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06-22-2012, 01:35 AM
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I have Buff on my squad and I think he should make the team as well. He can play either forward or defense, you can park him infront of the Canada goalie as he will likely bother the hell out of whoever that may be...or you can have him man the point on the power play and just blast it away from the point.

Any way you slice it, big ice or not, Buff is a player seriously in the mix as he can offer plenty of things that we simply do not have otherwise...
And if Luongo is in net...

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06-29-2012, 07:20 PM
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I have Buff on my squad and I think he should make the team as well. He can play either forward or defense, you can park him infront of the Canada goalie as he will likely bother the hell out of whoever that may be...or you can have him man the point on the power play and just blast it away from the point.

Any way you slice it, big ice or not, Buff is a player seriously in the mix as he can offer plenty of things that we simply do not have otherwise...
As a Canadian, I also hope you have Buff on your team. Yes he has a lot of upside but he is mistake prone and those mistakes may cost the U.S. early, long before a showdown with Canada.

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I like this group. Quite impressive.

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Brown-Calahan-Backes MUST happen. That would be an incredibly physical line, that still has plenty of offensive ability. Maybe you want to spread them out, but with these three on the ice along with really any of the Dmen, you're not going to get an easy goal. I think it's possible Galchenyuk makes the team, but as of right now it seems unlikely to me. Oshie's another guy I would like on the team, and I don't think Statsny is a scratch. He's certainly ahead of JVR, and Patches. Probably even Pavelski. He's a great player.

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As much as I love Jake Gardiner, I think he's a bit overrated by a desperate fan base. (NO offense intended to any Leaf fans).

Cam Fowler or Justin Faulk are both better. Heck I'd even consider dropping EJ to get those two on if they continue their development track and EJ can't get back on his.

I also really don't get the JVR love. He's struggled to stay healthy, he's big but not physical, defensively he's mediocre and offensively he still hasn't broken the 40 point barrier yet. Just don't see it. I'd put Stepan on the team in his place when it comes to young forwards. And Ryan Callahan is about as close to a lock as it gets.

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As much as I love Jake Gardiner, I think he's a bit overrated by a desperate fan base. (NO offense intended to any Leaf fans).

Cam Fowler or Justin Faulk are both better. Heck I'd even consider dropping EJ to get those two on if they continue their development track and EJ can't get back on his.

I also really don't get the JVR love. He's struggled to stay healthy, he's big but not physical, defensively he's mediocre and offensively he still hasn't broken the 40 point barrier yet. Just don't see it. I'd put Stepan on the team in his place when it comes to young forwards. And Ryan Callahan is about as close to a lock as it gets.
Xokkeu and I see eye to eye on all of these points. Well said.

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As much as I love Jake Gardiner, I think he's a bit overrated by a desperate fan base. (NO offense intended to any Leaf fans).

Cam Fowler or Justin Faulk are both better. Heck I'd even consider dropping EJ to get those two on if they continue their development track and EJ can't get back on his.

I also really don't get the JVR love. He's struggled to stay healthy, he's big but not physical, defensively he's mediocre and offensively he still hasn't broken the 40 point barrier yet. Just don't see it. I'd put Stepan on the team in his place when it comes to young forwards. And Ryan Callahan is about as close to a lock as it gets.
I agree on the Gardiner bit, Fowler is a better option but I'm not so sure about Faulk. And I'm a sens fan, no danger of me homering Gardiner.

For Van Riemsdyk, this is a bit of a homer for a player I really like who I think is poised to really step up his game TO. But I can't believe I forgot Callahan, and especially on a line with Backes and Brown. That would be an absolute nightmare to play against. Excellent points.

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I agree on the Gardiner bit, Fowler is a better option but I'm not so sure about Faulk. And I'm a sens fan, no danger of me homering Gardiner.

For Van Riemsdyk, this is a bit of a homer for a player I really like who I think is poised to really step up his game TO. But I can't believe I forgot Callahan, and especially on a line with Backes and Brown. That would be an absolute nightmare to play against. Excellent points.
Faulk is very good. I'm not sure he'll make the team or not, but I am fairly certain that he'll be apart of future US olympic (or World Cup whatever) efforts. We will find out either way.

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I love to take digs at American hockey. I love it! But today at work, I overheard (and then participated in) a conversation about how scary you guys are in net. More specifically, the fear that Quick or Miller could single handedly stop what could be one of the greatest teams ever assembled.

I think you should take pride in keeping Canadians awake at night.



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would Trouba or Skjei be eligible for this team?

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Xokkeu and I see eye to eye on all of these points. Well said.
I'm right there with you.

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would Trouba or Skjei be eligible for this team?
Eligible, but unlikely to get any consideration.

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