I agree that Kassian's was way worse than Kuhnhackl's, the OHL has been more severe in handing down significant suspensions this year than they were in the past. An average suspension when Kassian got his was 3-5 games. Now the norm is 10.
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Originally Posted by Jason MacIsaac
So, I hope kids are trying to hurt with their hits. You think Stevens tried to only separate the puck? He tried to separate their head.
Different era, different time. If Stevens played like that today, he'd be compared unfavourably to Matt Cooke and wouldn't even be an afterthought for the hall of fame.
The sole purpose of checking a player is to separate him from the puck, not his head. If players got that concept through their thick noggins, there wouldn't be an uproar about concussions and Shanaban wouldn't have a job.
6'2" player hitting a 5'10" player, who is looking down and back for the puck which makes him 5'6". If the goalie doesn't change the direction of the puck, Murphy takes it cleanly with his head up and Khunackl makes a clean check. Khunackl is doing his job on the forecheck and the timing made it impossible for him to hold-up or change direction. He could only assume that Murphy would make the play and imo acted accordingly.
At what point does the player being hit take some of the responsiblity for putting himself in a dangerous position?
I fully understand the hits to the head where you use an elbow to line a guy up but, at some point, contact is part of hockey. To me, this is a face to face collision that is going to be part of the game. It is a far cry from the blind side hits that come out of nowhere.
Murphy should have keep his head up.
In the NHL he will be playing against much stronger players.
He missed the puck behind the net and he looked down to see that the puck wasn't there. If he wouldn't have missed the puck, Kuhnhackl still would've charged him, and Murphy would still have been elbowed.
Checks to the head are taken very serious in the OHL, especially ones like this.
He missed the puck behind the net and he looked down to see that the puck wasn't there. If he wouldn't have missed the puck, Kuhnhackl still would've charged him, and Murphy would still have been elbowed.
Checks to the head are taken very serious in the OHL, especially ones like this.
It wasn't an elbow, if Murphy had kept the puck under control, he wouldn't have been looking down at the puck and would probably have been body checked.
Doesn't belong in the NHL? this kid has so much skill its sickening. TK was hunting him all game, so was the entire team. You can only avoid so much. He clearly was out to hit him since he accelerated from the blue line but you clearly did not watch the game so you are basing your idiotic opinion on a replay where you see a very small part of the play.
It wasn't an elbow, if Murphy had kept the puck under control, he wouldn't have been looking down at the puck and would probably have been body checked.
It was so elbowing. People at the game saw that. There is no excuse, the hit was dirty in several ways.
It was so elbowing. People at the game saw that. There is no excuse, the hit was dirty in several ways.
if it was elbowing then why didn't the OHL say it was? why didn't he get an elbowing penalty? his elbow is tucked and it's clearly his forearm that connects with Murphy.
if it was elbowing then why didn't the OHL say it was? why didn't he get an elbowing penalty? his elbow is tucked and it's clearly his forearm that connects with Murphy.
Checking to the head takes priority.
And you can't make a judgement from watching a video. People who were at the game saw elbowing.
It wasn't an elbow, if Murphy had kept the puck under control, he wouldn't have been looking down at the puck and would probably have been body checked.
and if Murphy did somehow avoid the hit, Kuhnhackl was so out of controll he wouldn't have ended up in the Zamboni parked out back.
Looking down for a fraction of a second doesn't void the charge or boarding or a head shot!..geesch
and if Murphy did somehow avoid the hit, Kuhnhackl was so out of controll he wouldn't have ended up in the Zamboni parking out back.
Looking down for a fraction of a second doesn't void the charge!..geesch
I never denied it was a charge, the fact that Kuhnhackl had so much speed was what made the hit worse. If Kuhn wasn't going so fast he probably doesn't end up getting Murphy so high.
I never denied it was a charge, the fact that Kuhnhackl had so much speed was made the hit worse. If Kuhn was going so fast he probably doesn't end up getting Murphy so high.
actually if you take another look at the hit (there's another video slowed down) that Kuhnhackl was launching into the hit.
I'll go and find the slow down version and post!
^ at the 40 second mark you can see that the head was targeted.
I guess I have more faith in players abilities. Seeing them skating at similar speeds with the same reaction time they can snipe a loose puck into the top corner. With the same logic, there's no reason why they can't avoid delivering a devastating hit to a vulnerable player.
Last edited by Ward Cornell: 11-08-2011 at 08:09 PM.
Let's keep in mind that this is the CHL, a junior league and the parents are still very much a consideration at this level, especially when NCAA is an option. They can't afford to have injuries like this because it gives them a bad image in the eyes of the parents. Not every one of those kids will have a pro career, some of them will go on to use their scholarship to go to university and lead a regular life.
Let's keep in mind that this is the CHL, a junior league and the parents are still very much a consideration at this level, especially when NCAA is an option. They can't afford to have injuries like this because it gives them a bad image in the eyes of the parents. Not every one of those kids will have a pro career, some of them will go on to use their scholarship to go to university and lead a regular life.
Well said. There is life after hockey and players' health needs to be taken into consideration. Glad to see we're now taking head injuries as seriously as we should be.
