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11-02-2011, 08:10 AM
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Honestly, that's not a bad deal in terms of value. However, I'm pretty sure Sather would be lynched if he traded a fan favorite, heart and soul player in Prust for a healthy scratch. Now, before getting defensive, I know Franson is good enough to be in the NHL, and I'm not saying he's a scrub, but that's how it will be perceived by the fanbase.
Forget the fans, im pretty sure Torts would be the one leading the lynch mob.

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11-02-2011, 08:13 AM
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He's not a bit slow, he's REALLY slow
He's never been able to play anything but sheltered minutes without having his defensive deficiencies exposed

He's a guy I can see the Rangers being interested in, but they don't need him or need to give up a lot to acquire him. If the price is right they could take a swing, and if it's not they move on
Pretty much the first thing that comes to my head when describing Franson. I see his value being a pick around 3rd round, which doesn't really help us. But there's no way we get a top 6 forward for franson+ unless the + is something substantial.

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11-02-2011, 08:14 AM
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The Rangers are scared about screwing up the locker room chemistry, yet, they've called back Avery from the minors... Ok then

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11-02-2011, 08:18 AM
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The Rangers are scared about the locker chemistry, yet, they've called back Avery from the minors... Ok then
Who said they were scared about locker room chemistry?

Locker room is pretty tight, from what we hear about it (recent McDonagh interview mentioned this) and Avery is actually good friends with a lot of the other players, shows new guys around NYC, etc. He hasn't really been a locker room issue, his play on the ice is just mediocre these days

As for something like Prust for Franson, the value is probably close but losing Prust might hurt the Rangers more than acquiring a guy like Franson would help. Prust plays in a lot of situations and adds some great grit to the team, even if he is just a third/fourth line guy, he kinda brings something unique to the team

How about Sean Avery for Franson

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I've always been a fan of Wolski and his potential. A 6 foot 3, 210lbs winger that can dangle the pants off of goalies. Would have to be Franson+ for Wolski+ for it to work capwise.

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11-02-2011, 08:19 AM
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He's slow and extremely soft for a player of his size, but he does have a great shot. Maybe it's just a maturity thing since he's still pretty young and maybe Torts can get some mean out of him. If he could, then he could be a steal as his value isn't much I believe.

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11-02-2011, 08:19 AM
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The scoop on Franson, and this was scoffed at by TML fans at the time, though now it seems they're starting to see it:

He's a decent bottom pairing defenseman and second unit PP specialist, but that's about all he is. He's young, but it's not like he's oozing potential to get better. The assets that he has now-- size and an incredible snapshot -- are what keeps him in the league. His weaknesses -- soft and slow -- are not things that you can really make better. He's decent enough positionally that most of the time he knows where to be to make the right play, but if he happens NOT to be in the right place, you're looking at odd-man-rush against, every time-- or guys wide open in front of the goal. If you're expecting that he could, as one Leafs fan said at the time, "be another Shea Weber, in time," you're going to be disappointed.

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11-02-2011, 08:22 AM
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Who said they were scared about locker room chemistry?
The OP

I didn't check if it was in the link he posted or his general assumption but it's in the opening post.

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11-02-2011, 08:23 AM
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I didn't check if it was in the link he posted or his general assumption but it's in the opening post.
Ah, you read that wrong, they're talking about the Leafs being worried about upsetting locker room chemistry by making trades

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11-02-2011, 08:26 AM
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the only way i see burke trading franson or another d man is

D man + [w.e here]

for

Top 6 Winger

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The Rangers are scared about screwing up the locker room chemistry, yet, they've called back Avery from the minors... Ok then
Avery is liked in the Rangers locker room. I don't know why people can't understand this. Many Rangers players are his friends and hang out with him during off hours, most notably Lundqvist and Richards. Say what you want about his super-pest playing style, but he's the first guy to drop the gloves in defense of a teammate.

Also, like many hockey players, he's a very different person off the ice. He's a nice guy.

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11-02-2011, 08:27 AM
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From a Rangers perspective would it help or hurt the trade if Orr was involved as well?

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Funny how much value Franson had on these boards when he was with Nashville. I was just reading old threads and people were offering up top six forwards and saying how much potential this kid has.

Why does being traded to the Leafs instantly kill a players value?

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From a Rangers perspective would it help or hurt the trade if Orr was involved as well?
HURT. I think I can speak for the entire NYR fanbase when I say "Do not want," as respectfully as possible.

I liked Orr while he was here, but he has no place on this team. We have the team toughness and grit that we lacked when he was with us.

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Kundratek and a 3rd.

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Funny how much value Franson had on these boards when he was with Nashville. I was just reading old threads and people were offering up top six forwards and saying how much potential this kid has.

Why does being traded to the Leafs instantly kill a players value?
It's more like being traded to the Leafs and not even being good enough to be a regular player instantly kills a players value. Also, it's not like you traded anything of value for him. So he never had much value when he was traded in the first place.

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The Rangers are scared about screwing up the locker room chemistry, yet, they've called back Avery from the minors... Ok then
Think you misread the OP, and FYI, Avery is pretty well-liked in the Rangers locker room. It's a well known fact that he has a bit of a ****** personality, but he's been taking care of the young guys like any veteran is expected to do, and a bit more.

I know this comes as a shock for most people, but Avery isn't the super class A jerk that a lot of people make him out to be. He's outspoken, eccentric and brutally honest. Pair that with the fact he's not the most diplomatic person in the world, **** takes a spin real quick and media just loves to jump on that.

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I think some Toronto fans are way over valuing Franson. It won't be a top prospect or a top 6 player.
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What do you expect? Blue-chip prospects? Full-time NHLers?
Problem is Leafs have no reason to trade him. He won't be dealt for someone who will most likely never crack and NHL roster. It has to be a deal in which the Leafs are enticed enough to make it.

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Kundratek and a 3rd.
3rd is now rescinded.

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Funny how much value Franson had on these boards when he was with Nashville. I was just reading old threads and people were offering up top six forwards and saying how much potential this kid has.

Why does being traded to the Leafs instantly kill a players value?
His value was always overrated when he was with Nashville, even by our own fans. He played *very* protected minutes with the Preds, in fact, statistically someone once discovered that he was in the top five most protected in the league -- so his abilities appeared inflated. If he's not playing in a defensive system and in a position to make him succeed, he's a liability. That's really all there is to it.

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A decent-good prospect. Like I said before, i could see something Like Thomas for Franson.
He's our second rated prospects. Decent-good is 6-9 range.

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i could see how the rangers could use a defenseman. the problem is the leafs have no real need to trade franson. he is already an nhl defenseman, cheap, and will be an rfa after this season.

unless there is a piece that is coming back to toronto that will make them better either today or in the future i doubt burke does his fishing buddy a solid. i dont think a ~2nd round pick gets it done.


is there realistically anything the leafs could add to go along with franson that would interest the rangers in moving kreider?

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Take your pick of prospects 11-15 on the Rangers and a 5th round pick. No more.

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i could see how the rangers could use a defenseman. the problem is the leafs have no real need to trade franson. he is already an nhl defenseman, cheap, and will be an rfa after this season.

unless there is a piece that is coming back to toronto that will make them better either today or in the future i doubt burke does his fishing buddy a solid. i dont think a ~2nd round pick gets it done.


is there realistically anything the leafs could add to go along with franson that would interest the rangers in moving kreider?
Respectfully, no. Or rather, nothing you want to part with.

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Can Wolski play the off-wing?

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