Shows you how far Michalek has fallen. Guy was on pace for 50 goals at 1 point now thatès down to 34. I wonder if he will pick it up by the end of the season.
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Last night an ESPN program was discussing how the Detroit Pistons needed a hero citing the heroes on the Detroit Tigers, Detroit Lions and no mention of the Detroit Red Wings. All this despite the Red Wings probably being the most succesful team in Detroit right now.
Shows you how far Michalek has fallen. Guy was on pace for 50 goals at 1 point now thatès down to 34. I wonder if he will pick it up by the end of the season.
It's not likely he scores 40 goals this year, put it that way.
Turris pace doesn't make sense... he has 17 pts in 33 games with the Sens (42 pts pace), he can't have a projection of 23 pts in 82 games...
And Gilroy numbers shouldn't be there... he only played 2 games with the team. Initially, this thread was made to reflect Sens players paces WITH the team.
And well, I looked at others like Regin and Da Costa.... Again, it doesn't reflect their real pace through 82 games. Same with Michalek, he missed a few games and it says his pace is 57 pts, when in fact it should read 62 pts (that could be his pace if he didn't miss any game)
It's like saying Crosby has a 12 pts pace this year... doesn't make any sense
Regin is out for the season, his pace shouldn't matter that much, as I didn't bother looking it up. His pace would be 5-5-10 if he started playing again tonight.
i wasn't counting 'just' Turris sens stats but his stats for the whole season, which are more important to me than just his sens stats but if you want to ignore his start of the season in Phoenix then by all means do so.
Regin is out for the season, his pace shouldn't matter that much, as I didn't bother looking it up. His pace would be 5-5-10 if he started playing again tonight.
i wasn't counting 'just' Turris sens stats but his stats for the whole season, which are more important to me than just his sens stats but if you want to ignore his start of the season in Phoenix then by all means do so.
It doesn't matter what you are counting because your numbers are way off. He is on pace for 23 points in only 55 gp not 82.
Regin is out for the season, his pace shouldn't matter that much, as I didn't bother looking it up. His pace would be 5-5-10 if he started playing again tonight.
i wasn't counting 'just' Turris sens stats but his stats for the whole season, which are more important to me than just his sens stats but if you want to ignore his start of the season in Phoenix then by all means do so.
The funny thing is that i did use his full season stats which are 6g 11a 17 pts in 39 games(33 with OTT and 6 with PHX) which makes 13g 23a 36 pts over a full season. I don't know how you managed to get 8g 15a....
The funny thing is that i did use his full season stats which are 6g 11a 17 pts in 39 games(33 with OTT and 6 with PHX) which makes 13g 23a 36 pts over a full season. I don't know how you managed to get 8g 15a....
55 GP not 82. Atleast read what you are using as a reference.
Who says I didn't read it?I'm aware it's only 55 games but we are judging performace based on 82 game seasons not 55. Geez some of you are a nitpicky bunch, you can update the thread yourselves next time if you want it done your way or aren't satisfied.
Who says I didn't read it?I'm aware it's only 55 games but we are judging performace based on 82 game seasons not 55. Geez some of you are a nitpicky bunch, you can update the thread yourselves next time if you want it done your way or aren't satisfied.
Then why are you using the numbers from his 55 game pace then? Turris 82 game pace is 36 points, like another poster said earlier. So why use the numbers of his 55 game pace as the numbers for his 82 game pace? I don't think its being nitpicky when you are way off on your numbers is all.
Then why are you using the numbers from his 55 game pace then? Turris 82 game pace is 36 points, like another poster said earlier. So why use the numbers of his 55 game pace as the numbers for his 82 game pace? I don't think its being nitpicky when you are way off on your numbers is all.
It's his pace for the entire season factoring in the games that he missed from holding out with Phoenix while still counting his performance with them this year for the few games he has played.
In the table, I didn't go through the games played and change them, I guess I figured people would look at his pace and figure out is low because of certain reasons.
So yeah, if he did play all 82 games with the sens this year he would be at a higher point total, but he didn't and that's not how i judge an entire season.
Another way of looking at it is, I'm looking at the players paces based on what already has happened this year and will happen, not just with the Sens.
What about Gilroy? He has 2 points in 3 games with us, but because he played more than %50 of his games with Tampa, I think you have to include those stats as well.
I always find these kinds of things silly, like posting at the beginning of the season how many pts each player is going to get than arguing with each other why one person's opinion is way off to another person's opinion. It's all speculation which doesn't mean anything or have any bearing, they are statistical possibilities which rarely ever match up.
It's his pace for the entire season factoring in the games that he missed from holding out with Phoenix while still counting his performance with them this year for the few games he has played.
In the table, I didn't go through the games played and change them, I guess I figured people would look at his pace and figure out is low because of certain reasons.
So yeah, if he did play all 82 games with the sens this year he would be at a higher point total, but he didn't and that's not how i judge an entire season.
Another way of looking at it is, I'm looking at the players paces based on what already has happened this year and will happen, not just with the Sens.
What about Gilroy? He has 2 points in 3 games with us, but because he played more than %50 of his games with Tampa, I think you have to include those stats as well.
We just have a different way of looking at it.
Ok I got you now, wasn't really trying to be a ****** I just really wasn't getting how you came up with that. All makes sense now though, thanks for explaining instead of taking it the wrong way.
Two + 80 pts players
Two + 60 pts players
Three + 40 pts players
Three + 30 pts players
I ain't even mad
Very happy with most players paces. Neil and Foligno are producing very well, Michalek is back to SJ form, Spezza and Karlsson are Elite, Alfie is like a good wine. Gonchar, Kuba and Phillips are providing great secondary defense scoring. Cowen's first rookie season is promising. Turris has started to breakout, hopefully he can reach anoher step next season. Greening have proved they can be good bottom-6 forwards who can chip in as well.
Only real disappointment in my books is Bobby Butler who showed some promise last year but hasn't been close to the same player this year except in a few games. Also, missing Regin and Winchester most of the season sucked, particulary defensively. They are among our best forwards defensively.
It also shows that we lack another top-6 forward who should be in the 50 pts (that would mean a lot less production from Greening but I'd take it). Spezza, Michalek, Alfredsson, Player X, Foligno, Turris
Can Silver Surfer do it?
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Originally Posted by aragorn
I always find these kinds of things silly, like posting at the beginning of the season how many pts each player is going to get than arguing with each other why one person's opinion is way off to another person's opinion. It's all speculation which doesn't mean anything or have any bearing, they are statistical possibilities which rarely ever match up.
Guys... it's not complicated... It's not an opinion thing at all, it's a mathematical thing.
I would like to be able to explain it in one sentence but I'm not sure I can efficiently do that in english. I will give one example instead
The Sens have played 67 games so far this year. Let's say Spezza is injured and doesn't play another game for the remainder of the season. He would finish the season with 72 points. The question is :
What could have been his scoring based on his pace (ppg) if he had played all the 82 games?
The answer is :
82/67 = 1.22
1.22 x 72 = 88 pts
All you gotta understand is the point of my thread was to see what could be the scoring of player X in 82 games based on his scoring pace (ppg). The goal of doing this is to be able to compare players who weren't fortunate enough to play all the 82 games with players who played the full season.
I don't understand the debate about this, it's like arguing that 2 + 2 isn't = 4
If you want to create a new methodoligy with random rules, then create another thread
Now that I have said that, I have to update my thread lol
Next year, if Silfverberg bumps Greening to the 3rd line (while bumping O'Brien to the 4th line instead of Daugavins) and Zibanejad bumps Neil to the 4th line, it will be perfect.
No idea if we'll re-sign Winchester but that's the type of line-up we can hope/expect. IMO, guys like Konopka, Daugavins, Klinkhammer and even Butler won't be back
Hopefully, we add a Suter or Parise even if that looks like a pipe dream for now.
