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07-27-2012, 05:25 PM
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I WISH!!!!

My son is a 94, playing Junior A in a lost city in Ont, where the arena is behind a cow farm. after this coming year, he's hanging his skates......

On the "hands comment"

Duclair has hands to shoot
Drouin has hands to stickhandle in traffic.
We can agree there, but IMO Jo can hit the hole with his eyes closed. Duclair has a rocket !!

Duclair didn't start putting on wait till he entered the Q, that hampered his progress, as I said he play this year on skill alone. Next year watch out.

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07-27-2012, 05:44 PM
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Duclaire isn't anything special.

You heard it here first.

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07-27-2012, 09:18 PM
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Duclaire isn't anything special.

You heard it here first.
Your right Duclaire isn't..

But Anthony Duclair is.

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We can agree there, but IMO Jo can hit the hole with his eyes closed. Duclair has a rocket !!

Duclair didn't start putting on wait till he entered the Q, that hampered his progress, as I said he play this year on skill alone. Next year watch out.
So true!

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I'm willing to bet with anyone that Duclair falls in rankings this season. I see him dropping to the bottom of the 1st round and likely into the 2nd rounds.

Scouts aren't going to be enamoured with his lack of hockey sense.

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07-29-2012, 09:47 AM
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I'm willing to bet with anyone that Duclair falls in rankings this season. I see him dropping to the bottom of the 1st round and likely into the 2nd rounds.

Scouts aren't going to be enamoured with his lack of hockey sense.
I'll take on your bet. BUT, if he does fall, it won't be based on his lack of hockey sense, but based on a lack of productivity. He got 66 points last season, he'll need 90-100+ points to be considered a progress from last season.

Like Halifax's stars, he'll be targeted like flies on you know what. 22 and 27 also will need to roam around 90-100+ points for them to be considered a progress from the previous year.

The question is, if these 2nd year players can overcome the added pressure from their oppositions. I believe they can and will all be in the top 10.

As for Qc's #10, too much power, too much skills too much hockey sense to be waisted in the 2nd round. You're speaking as if he has absolutely no hockey sense. if that's the case, Wow!!!

Again, I send out a challenge to all of you, to find 1 article from a pro scout on the web, stating anything on Duke's hockey sense.

I'm not saying his hockey sense is as high as Drouin or Mackinnon, but it's surely not as low as to be late 1st round and 2nd round!


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I will be shocked if Forsberg goes in the 1st round.

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Duclaire isn't anything special.

You heard it here first.




unbelievable what we can read on this forum...

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Seeing prospects on the draft board that were born in 1995, a full ten years after I was born, is making me feel all kinds of old right now....

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I'll take on your bet. BUT, if he does fall, it won't be based on his lack of hockey sense, but based on a lack of productivity. He got 66 points last season, he'll need 90-100+ points to be considered a progress from last season.

Like Halifax's stars, he'll be targeted like flies on you know what. 22 and 27 also will need to roam around 90-100+ points for them to be considered a progress from the previous year.

The question is, if these 2nd year players can overcome the added pressure from their oppositions. I believe they can and will all be in the top 10.

As for Qc's #10, too much power, too much skills too much hockey sense to be waisted in the 2nd round. You're speaking as if he has absolutely no hockey sense. if that's the case, Wow!!!

Again, I send out a challenge to all of you, to find 1 article from a pro scout on the web, stating anything on Duke's hockey sense.

I'm not saying his hockey sense is as high as Drouin or Mackinnon, but it's surely not as low as to be late 1st round and 2nd round!
I saw Duclair quite a bit, especially in the play-off series against Halifax. Every time I saw him, he was a non-factor offensively. Not one part of his game stood out to me and if I hadn't been looking for him, I wouldn't have noticed him at all. Top prospects in the Q tend to have that aura about them. For all the flack Grigorenko got in the play-offs (I gave him plenty), at least his vision was always on display, you could tell when he had the puck there was something that could potentially happen.

As a Mooseheads fan, the few times Duclair did have possession (never seemed to get himself open, which might not be his game because of his wheels) rarely anything came of it. He was usually most content to throw it down the boards or funnel it to the net.

That's why I see 3rd line upside with him. Don't think that's going to be an attractive commodity in a deep 2013 1st round, but who knows, some team might bite based on reputation (The Penguins did pick Esposito in the 1st round, afterall...).

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07-29-2012, 08:08 PM
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I will be shocked if Forsberg goes in the 1st round.
At this point I agree, I have been very disappointed in him thus far. I really hope he has a huge year.

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Seeing prospects on the draft board that were born in 1995, a full ten years after I was born, is making me feel all kinds of old right now....
There are tons of guys who were born after me, that have already retired.

No big deal to me.

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I'm willing to bet with anyone that Duclair falls in rankings this season. I see him dropping to the bottom of the 1st round and likely into the 2nd rounds.

Scouts aren't going to be enamoured with his lack of hockey sense.

Lol.

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Watch out for Leon Bristedt SWE... Great Strong Player
http://eurohockey.com/article/1195-s...s-perfect.html

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Well it'll be good to see how all those prospects do in the Hlinka. Not everyone is there, but a lot who are will get a big chance to learn from each other; and we'll see you can take that and have a great season. Sure hope I can see Drouin, Lazar, Klimchuk, and so on throughout the season.

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Ivan Hlinka will be great, just wish that the US would sens it's best.

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08-11-2012, 08:48 PM
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I think Motte's stock dropped a bit at the end of last season. Look at his game-by-game USHL stats, specifically from March 9 onward. He and Compher were leading Team USA all season in scoring, but over the last nine games Motte had one goal and a horrible -15 rating (he had a +10 rating going in to that stretch). The only thing that changed is Compher got promoted to the U18 Team around March 9. Coincidence that Motte's bad streak to finish the season coincided with that?
didnt see this post prior, but for what its worth, Motte was playing through a leg injury (hamstring) that really hurt his end of the season...

he simply wasnt the same kid physically that he was in the beginning of the year. he couldnt turn as sharp as he did prior, his first 2 steps were slower then it was, as he simply couldnt put much pressure on his injured leg for push off and power...

we all noticed that this kid was playing through something, but when talking with a few of the Chicago Steel guys who know and talk with Motte and others, he was playing hurt...

I can believe that as the kid I saw at the beginning of the season physically simply looked like a different type of player by seasons end. scouts will know the difference between a healthy Motte and an injured one...the kid has top 20 talent, hopefully he can put it all together and reach that potential.

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What are the main differences between Barkov, Monahan, and Lazar?

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08-11-2012, 10:40 PM
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What are the main differences between Barkov, Monahan, and Lazar?
Monahan is a big body offensive force who can beat you multiple ways. Picture a bigger version of Tyler Seguin.

Lazar is another solid frame player who has a great work ethic and a lethal shot. He also has a very good defensive game and never gives up on the play. Decent skater as well.

Barkov already has a NHL body and already has the hockey sense to play with very good minutes against men in Finland. He already has an amazing shutdown game that we saw during the WJC and will start producing heavy numbers when he gains more experience. Skating is definitely one of the things he needs to work on, but he has a ton of upside.

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08-11-2012, 10:48 PM
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In your opinion SEPH what's separating Barkov from MacKinnon? Is it just the skating or does Barkov have other holes in his game? Thx in advance.

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In your opinion SEPH what's separating Barkov from MacKinnon? Is it just the skating or does Barkov have other holes in his game? Thx in advance.
I havent seen both players a lot, so i will let other posters comment as well, But.

Barkov has very little holes in his game already is a great all-around player. McKinnon probably has much better offensive talent and what separates both them is what Karlsson separates himself from other offensive defensemen. That is the ability of elusiveness at top speed with playmaking vision and the ability to read the play with high hockey sense. Barkov definitely has the hockey sense, but foot speed does slow him down compared to McKinnon.

In my summer rankings I currently have Jones 1st overall and Lazar over Barkov, but that might change when the season starts.

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08-12-2012, 03:44 PM
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Yes, it's hard to truly evaluate guys when you can't see them. Stats only go so far after all (A guy on London scoring 80 points, getting 1st team PP time and playing 17 minutes a game may be a lot worse than a guy on Erie never getting PP time but scoring 80 with his coach and teammates).


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So Canada won game one of Ivan Hlinka, I know MacKinnon and Lazar scored, Ritchie, Laplante into an empty net. Assists to MacKinnon(2), Drouin(2), Subban, Reinhart. Fucale in goal I think. Didn't see it.

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Guess Canada won game two. Lots of silly penalty calls on both teams they say. Domi with 2 goals, MacKinnon, Lazar, Duclair, Klimchuk, Reinhart with the others. Morrisey 3, Domi/Lazar 2 assists, Horvat, Laplante, Duclair one each. Not sure if Fucale or Comrie was in net.

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I think Ross Olsson will find his way into that next 20 or even the bottom of the first round.

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