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08-15-2012, 01:16 PM
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The idea of a Mackinnon, Jones, Monahan, Lazar, Barkov, Shinkaruk top 6 has me feeling a lot better about this season as a Leafs fan. If the wheels do fall off, our future #1 C, or franchise D in Jones, is there.

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I've said before that the Leafs need to focus on the draft, and I've said before that I expect Burke to go hard after Jones if he's still GM. Me, I'd rather get two top forwards in 2013 like Monahan and Lazar, but we'll see. MacKinnon with 3 goals, Lazar with one as Canada wins gold over the Finns 4-0.

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The idea of a Mackinnon, Jones, Monahan, Lazar, Barkov, Shinkaruk top 6 has me feeling a lot better about this season as a Leafs fan. If the wheels do fall off, our future #1 C, or franchise D in Jones, is there.
Not looking forward to a good season in TO?
The problem with your scenario is that 5 other teams, probably mostly from the east, will get the rest of those players.

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Not looking forward to a good season in TO?
The problem with your scenario is that 5 other teams, probably mostly from the east, will get the rest of those players.
Don't underestimate our underachieving capabilities I'm looking to get Jones or Monahan, even though we could draft Mackinnon and sell high as ******* when we have him ready

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Oliver Cooper should have a great season, should be gone early in the draft. So strong and he has so much power in his skating. Character kid

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Oliver Cooper should have a great season, should be gone early in the draft. So strong and he has so much power in his skating. Character kid
He's got climbing to do..

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proscout has joined hfboards to present its members and readers a rare nhl & iss-caliber inside look on the 2013 nhl draft. We will post monthly (or time permitting) updates within this thread so you can track the risers and the fallers. You may wish to lend your ideas and comment. Regards,


1st installment of 2012-13 season rankings – 7/23/12:


1. Nathan mackinnon – f – 9/1/95 qmjhl – 58 gp, 31 g, 47 a, 78 pts, 45 pim, +11

2. Seth jones – d – 10/3/94 whl – 52 gp, 8 g, 23 a, 31 pts, 18 pim, +5

3. Hunter shinkaruk – c – 10/13/94 whl – 66 gp, 49 g, 42 a, 91 pts, 38 pim, +17

4. Aleksander barkov – c – 9/2/95 sm-liiga fin – 32 gp, 7 g, 9 a, 16 pts, 4 pim

5. Sean monahan – c – 10/12/94 ohl – 62 gp, 33 g, 45 a, 78 pts, 38 pim, +25

6. Ryan pulock – d – 10/6/94 whl – 71 gp, 19 g, 41 a, 60 pts, 20 pim, +33

7. Rasmus ristolainen – d – 10/27/94 sm-liiga fin – 39 gp, 3 g, 5 a, 8 pts, 78 pim, -8 pim

8. Curtis lazar – c – 2/2/95 whl – 63 gp, 20 g, 11 a, 31 pts, 56 pim, +15

9. J.t. Compher – f – 4/8/95 usa ntdp u18 – 58 gp, 23 g, 32 a, 55 pts, 57 pim, +10

10. Robert hδgg – d – 2/8/95 superelit swe – 44 gp, 4 g, 13 a, 17 pts, 46 pim

11. Anthony duclair – lw – 7/26/95 qmjhl – 63 gp, 31 g, 35 a, 66 pts, 50 pim, +38

12. Max domi – f – 3/2/95 ohl – 62 gp, 21 g, 28 a, 48 pts, 48 pim, +13

13. Kerby rychel – lw – 10/7/94 ohl – 68 gp, 41 g, 33 a, 74 pts, 54 pim, +3

14. Valeri nichushkin – f – 3/4/95 mhl rus – 38 gp, 4 g, 6 a, 10 pts, 6 pim

15. Elias lindholm – f – 12/2/94 superelit swe – 36 gp, 14 g, 35 a, 49 pts, 45 pim

16. Josh morrissey – d – 3/28/95 whl – 68 gp, 10 g, 27 a, 38 pts, 60 pim, -2

17. Jordan subban – d – 3/3/95 ohl – 56 gp, 5 g, 15 a, 20 pts, 31 pim, -23

18. Adam erne – f – 4/20/95 qmjhl – 64 gp, 28 g, 27 a, 55 pts, 32 pim, +6

19. Jonathan drouin – c – 3/28/95 qmjhl – 33 gp, 7 g, 22 a, 29 pts, 12 pim, -5

20. Zach fucale – g – 5/28/95 qmjhl – 58 gp, 32-18-6, 3.16 gaa, .892 sv%, 2 so

21. Morgan klimchuk – c – 3/2/95 whl – 67 gp, 18 g, 18 a, 36 pts, 27 pim, +3

22. Ryan kujawinski – c – 3/30/95 ohl – 59 gp, 16 g, 20 a, 36 pts, 15 pim, -6

23. Hudson fasching – f – 7/28/95 usa ntdp u18 – 54 gp, 16 g, 20 a, 36 pts, 52 pim, -15

24. Anthony mantha – lw – 9/16/94 qmjhl – 63 gp, 22 g, 29 a, 51 pts, 39 pim, -11

25. Luke johnson – f – 9/19/94 ushl – 55 gp, 20 g, 35 a, 55 pts, 52 pim, +22

26. Madison bowey – d – 4/22/95 whl – 57 gp, 8 g, 13 a, 21 pts, 39 pim, +3

27. Will butcher – d – 1/6/95 usa ntdp u18 – 56 gp, 8 g, 25 a, 33 pts, 10 pim, -5

28. Ryan hartman – f – 9/20/94 ohl – 59 gp, 16 g, 25 a, 41 pts, 136 pim, +6

29. Keaton thompson – d – 9/14/95 usa ntdp u18 – 54 gp, 5 g, 17 a, 22 pts, 33 pim, -5

30. Ian mccoshen – d – 8/5/95 ushl – 55 gp, 8 g, 12 a, 20 pts, 43 pim, +4


the next twenty:

eric roy – d – 10/24/94 whl – 69 gp, 11 g, 42 a, 53 pts, 55 pim, -1
bogdan yakimov – c – 10/04/94 mhl rus – 46 gp, 15 g, 10 a, 25 pts, 10 pim
william carrier – c – 12/20/94 qmjhl – 66 gp, 27 g, 43 a, 70 pts, 65 pim, -10
andrι burakowsky – f – 2/9/95 superelit swe – 42 gp, 17 g, 25 a, 42 pts, 43 pim
steve santini – d – 3/7/95 usa ntdp u18 – 55 gp, 2 g, 8 a, 10 pts, 69 pim, -28
taylor cammarata – f – 5/13/95 ushl – 60 gp, 27 g, 42 a, 69 pts, 6 pim, +1
nick sorensen – rw – 10/23/94 qmjhl – 8 gp, 5 g, 4 a, 9 pts, 2 pim, +9
samuel morin – d – 7/12/95 qmjhl – 62 gp, 0 g, 8 a, 8 pts, 57 pim, -2
nikita zadorov – d – 4/16/95 mhl rus – 41 gp, 2 g, 4 a, 6 pts, 63 pim
spencer martin – g – 6/8/95 ohl – 15 gp, 2-7-1, 3.98 gaa, .885 sv%
jacob de la rose – f – 5/20/95 superelit swe – 28 gp, 4 g, 9 a, 13 pts, 24 pim, -6
michael downing – d – 5/19/95 ushl – 54 gp, 4 g, 10 a, 14 pts, 68 pim, -1
alex forsberg – c – 1/4/95 whl – 51 gp, 15 g, 24 a, 39 pts, 30 pim, -9
eric comrie – g – 7/7/95 whl – 31 gp, 19-6-2, 2.67 gaa, .900 sv% 3 so
gustav possler – f – 11/11/94 superelit swe – 37 gp, 23 g, 17 a, 40 pts, 14 pim
connor rankin – c – 11/30/94 whl – 62 gp, 18 g, 21 a, 39 pts, 24 pim, +19
sergei tolchinsky – f – 2/3/95 mhl russia – 51 gp, 19 g, 15 a, 34 pts, 26 pim
lucas wallmark – c – 9/5/95 superelit swe – 37 gp, 11 g, 26 a, 37 pts, 14 pim
bo horvat – f – 4/5/95 ohl – 64 gp, 11 g, 19 a, 30 pts, 8 pim, +27
ville husso – g – 2/6/95 jr a sm-liiga fin – 27 gp, 2.41 gaa, .913 sv%







2011-12 final season rankings – 5/9/12:

1. Nathan mackinnon – f – 9/1/95 qmjhl – 58 gp, 31 g, 47 a, 78 pts, 45 pim, +11
2. Seth jones – d – 10/3/94 usa ntdp u18 – 52 gp, 8 g, 23 a, 31 pts, 18 pim, +5
3. Hunter shinkaruk – c – 10/13/94 whl – 66 gp, 49 g, 42 a, 91 pts, 38 pim, +17
4. Aleksander sasha barkov – c – 9/2/95 sm-liiga fin – 32 gp, 7 g, 9 a, 16 pts, 4 pim
5. Sean monahan – c – 10/12/94 ohl – 62 gp, 33 g, 45 a, 78 pts, 38 pim, +25
6. Anthony duclair – lw – 7/26/95 qmjhl – 63 gp, 31 g, 35 a, 66 pts, 50 pim, +38
7. Valeri nichushkin – f – 3/4/95 mhl rus – 38 gp, 4 g, 6 a, 10 pts, 6 pim
8. Ryan pulock – d – 10/6/94 whl – 71 gp, 19 g, 41 a, 60 pts, 20 pim, +33
9. Curtis lazar – c – 2/2/95 whl – 63 gp, 20 g, 11 a, 31 pts, 56 pim, +15
10. Max domi – f -- 3/2/95 ohl – 62 gp, 21 g, 28 a, 48 pts, 48 pim, +13
11. Alex forsberg – c – 1/4/95 whl – 51 gp, 15 g, 24 a, 39 pts, 30 pim, -9
12. Rasmus ristolainen – d – 10/27/94 sm-liiga fin – 39 gp, 3 g, 5 a, 8 pts, 78 pim, -8 pim
13. Kerby rychel – lw – 10/7/94 ohl – 68 gp, 41 g, 33 a, 74 pts, 54 pim, +3
14. Robert hδgg – d – 2/8/95 superelit swe – 44 gp, 4 g, 13 a, 17 pts, 46 pim
15. Elias lindholm – f – 12/2/94 superelit swe – 36 gp, 14 g, 35 a, 49 pts, 45 pim
16. J.t. Compher – f – 4/8/95 usa ntdp u17 – 58 gp, 23 g, 32 a, 55 pts, 57 pim, +10
17. Adam erne – f – 4/20/95 qmjhl – 64 gp, 28 g, 27 a, 55 pts, 32 pim, +6
18. Josh morrissey – d – 3/28/95 whl – 68 gp, 10 g, 27 a, 38 pts, 60 pim, -2
19. Jonathan drouin – c – 3/28/95 qmjhl – 33 gp, 7 g, 22 a, 29 pts, 12 pim, -5
20. Eric roy – d – 10/24/94 whl – 69 gp, 11 g, 42 a, 53 pts, 55 pim, -1
21. Ryan kujawinski – c – 3/30/95 ohl – 59 gp, 16 g, 20 a, 36 pts, 15 pim, -6
22. Will butcher – d – 1/6/95 usa ntdp u17 – 56 gp, 8 g, 25 a, 33 pts, 10 pim, -5
23. Madison bowey – d – 4/22/95 whl – 57 gp, 8 g, 13 a, 21 pts, 39 pim, +3
24. Eric comrie – g – 7/7/95 whl – 31 gp, 19-6-2, 2.67 gaa, .900 sv% 3 so
25. Keaton thompson – d – 9/14/95 usa ntdp u17 – 54 gp, 5 g, 17 a, 22 pts, 33 pim, -5
26. Morgan klimchuk – c – 3/2/95 whl – 67 gp, 18 g, 18 a, 36 pts, 27 pim, +3
27. Jordan subban – d – 3/3/95 ohl – 56 gp, 5 g, 15 a, 20 pts, 31 pim, -23
28. Zach fucale – g – 5/28/95 qmjhl – 58 gp, 32-18-6, 3.16 gaa, .892 sv%, 2 so
29. Bo horvat – f – 4/5/95 ohl – 64 gp, 11 g, 19 a, 30 pts, 8 pim, +27
30. Connor rankin – c – 11/30/94 whl – 62 gp, 18 g, 21 a, 39 pts, 24 pim, +19

the next twenty:

ryan hartman – f – 9/20/94 usa ntdp u18 – 59 gp, 16 g, 25 a, 41 pts, 136 pim, +6
hudson fasching – f – 7/28/95 usa ntdp u17 – 54 gp, 16 g, 20 a, 36 pts, 52 pim, -15
nick sorensen – rw – 10/23/94 qmjhl – 8 gp, 5 g, 4 a, 9 pts, 2 pim, +9
nick baptiste – f – 8/4/95 ohl – 64 gp, 8 g, 19 a, 27 pts, 42 pim, -7
gustav possler – f – 11/11/94 superelit swe – 37 gp, 23 g, 17 a, 40 pts, 14 pim
nikita zadorov – d – 4/16/95 mhl rus – 41 gp, 2 g, 4 a, 6 pts, 63 pim
steve santini – d – 3/7/95 usa ntdp u17 – 55 gp, 2 g, 8 a, 10 pts, 69 pim, -28
william carrier – c – 12/20/94 qmjhl – 66 gp, 27 g, 43 a, 70 pts, 65 pim, -10
taylor cammarata – f – 5/13/95 ushl – 60 gp, 27 g, 42 a, 69 pts, 6 pim, +1
sergei tolchinsky – f – 2/3/95 mhl russia – 51 gp, 19 g, 15 a, 34 pts, 26 pim
artturi lehkonen – f – 7/4/95 jr a sm-liiga fin – 40 gp, 28 g, 26 a, 54 pts, 54 pim
andrι burakowsky – f – 2/9/95 superelit swe – 42 gp, 17 g, 25 a, 42 pts, 43 pim
tyler motte – f – 3/10/95 usa ntdp u17 – 55 gp, 26 g, 16 a, 42 pts, 62 pim, -5
stephen harper – lw – 3/25/95 qmjhl – 63 gp, 24 g, 11 a, 35 pts, 14 pim, -36
jeremy gregoire – f – 9/5/95 qmjhl – 61 gp, 15 g, 15 a, 30 pts, 59 pim, -6
lucas wallmark – c – 9/5/95 superelit swe – 37 gp, 11 g, 26 a, 37 pts, 14 pim
marko dano – c – 11/30/94 hk dukla slo – 32 gp, 4 g, 6 a, 10 pts, 12 pim
ville husso – g – 2/6/95 jr a sm-liiga fin – 27 gp, 2.41 gaa, .913 sv%
nicolas petan – c – 3/22/95 whl – 61 gp, 14 g, 21 a, 35 pts, 22 pim, +7
ian mccoshen – d – 8/5/95 ushl – 55 gp, 8 g, 12 a, 20 pts, 43 pim, +4
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I will never understand why people have to quote the whole damn post and then say things like, Go Bo, MacKinnion is teh bestest, or Lindholm is the coolest and rise many spots.

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Speaking of Hlinka Memorial, I thought that McKinnon is not as good as he was told in a media. Of the other players available in 2013, I really like the play of Barkov. He is really cool. Big size, good shot, high tecnical skills. He is really contender to be 1st pick.

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Speaking of Hlinka Memorial, I thought that McKinnon is not as good as he was told in a media. Of the other players available in 2013, I really like the play of Barkov. He is really cool. Big size, good shot, high tecnical skills. He is really contender to be 1st pick.
I really dont understand this because he put 11 points in 5 games which gives him the second highest point total by any canadian at this tournament.... unless by the media you mean the Crosby comparison which has been thrown out countless times.

No hate for Barkov though, looks like he will be a beast

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How did Grιgoire went down after Hlinka?

he played good hockey I don 't really get this

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I really dont understand this because he put 11 points in 5 games which gives him the second highest point total by any canadian at this tournament.... unless by the media you mean the Crosby comparison which has been thrown out countless times.

No hate for Barkov though, looks like he will be a beast
McKinnon played quite well, it is clear that the guy is great skater and has soft hands, but he was not impressed as the next one. Yes, he is a great player, but not like "Wow!My goodness!" Probably, on my opinion affects also the fact that the media praised him too much.

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Wish I could answer about Gregoire (and others) but I didn't get to see any of it, too much to do, darn it.

I think we'll see a few changes in the rankings about QMJHL guys. I think MacKinnon will stay high, Erme, Drouin, but I feel Duclaire may slip, Carrier may rise, lots of changes. Not because of changing opinions but because this year a few guys will be playing major minutes, not 3rd line, and we'll get to see if they're 1st liners.

Trouble is some guys get to play with good players and thus stats rise, others have to do it alone so stats fall, and others have coaches who do a bad job (so play the guy 3rd line, coach a system the team can't succeed at. How can we tell, those who are unbiased but have no games to see?

Can you name your top 5 players who can score without help, make teammates better? You know, guys who will produce playing with MacKinnon and Drouin or with Buttleship and Knocknees?

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I really dont understand this because he put 11 points in 5 games which gives him the second highest point total by any canadian at this tournament.... unless by the media you mean the Crosby comparison which has been thrown out countless times.

No hate for Barkov though, looks like he will be a beast
One think I hate is how people compare across years, too. So player x scored 150 in the Q in 1996 while player y scored 80 in the W in 2011 while the same age; who's to say the 1996 player is light years better, or even better at all, than the 2011 one?

Will MacKinnon be as good as Crosby? Will Reinhart? Who cares? Will either be really good NHLers in their own way? I'm sure they will, just like Segin, Hall, Tavares, Ovechkin, Malkin....

As a Leaf fan do I want MacKinnon? Sure! Reinhart? Of course! Barkov? Why not? Heck, give Toronto Klimchuk, Kujawinski, Lazar, I'd love it! Will the Leafs get any of these guys, or equals? Don't hold your breath. Team management isn't too far separated (in terms of planning/foresight) than the ones who said no to Joe Sakic (even though the scouts wanted Sakic badly). Maybe they'll get lucky, but I doubt it. Oh, the pain of unfulfilled hopes.

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Glad to see Mantha getting some love. I still predict he will end up a top-15 pick.

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Glad to see Mantha getting some love. I still predict he will end up a top-15 pick.
Are you able to shed some light on his style of play? 51 points as a 17 year old isnt really top 15 offence but I am curious to what else he brings to the table.

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Are you able to shed some light on his style of play? 51 points as a 17 year old isnt really top 15 offence but I am curious to what else he brings to the table.
He brings size (6"3), reach, shiftiness, has a precise wrist shot and has very good speed with the puck.

He needs to refine his skating and work on his physical game, but nothing to worry about, he'll be an NHLer, if he continues to refine his game.

Like you, I don't see him mid 1st round, rather early 2nd (today), but that can change in a heartbeat, since he's improving at lightning speed!

His grandfather (Andre Pronovost) won cups in the 50s with the Canadians


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I find Anthony Mantha and Willy Carrier go under the radar in terms of Q 2013 talent what with the spotlight on the three Moose. Both will have break out seasons I think, and Carrier could go round 1

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Well according to everyone in the 12-13 season predictions thread, the Ducks will finish with the 2cd-6th overall pick next June.

Mackinnon, Jones, Monahan, Barkov, Lazar, Shinkaruk. What up guys?

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I find Anthony Mantha and Willy Carrier go under the radar in terms of Q 2013 talent what with the spotlight on the three Moose. Both will have break out seasons I think, and Carrier could go round 1
The issue is, what you've stated, these 2 are entering their "break out season". While the Moose's trio and the Rempart's trio have been dominating their peers for a while, these 2 were not forces in Bantam and Midget level. Hence, the reason.....

I still remember Mantha playing a secondary role in his second year midget AAA and couldn't dominate the field. While Carrier never played Midget AAA, he was cut from the team. At the U-17 in Winnipeg, under aged Mackinnon and Duclair had a bigger role than Carrier, for the Qc team. These 2 didn't fair well at the U-18 last April, hence, were not part of Team CND at the Russia-Canada Challenge.

But I'm glad to see them bringing the goods to the table at this stage. Do not think they'll become primary forces at the NHL level, they should develop to be very strong secondary scorring players.

As someone said on this thread, they are a year older than the 95s and do not overshadow them.


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The issue is, what you've stated, these 2 are entering their "break out season". While the Moose's trio and the Rempart's trio have been dominating their peers for a while, these 2 were not forces in Bantam and Midget level. Hence, the reason.....

I still remember Mantha playing a secondary role in his second year midget AAA and couldn't dominate the field. While Carrier never played Midget AAA, he was cut from the team. At the U-17 in Winnipeg, under aged Mackinnon and Duclair had a bigger role than Carrier, for the Qc team. These 2 didn't fair well at the U-18 last April, hence, were not part of Team CND at the Russia-Canada Challenge.

But I'm glad to see them bringing the goods to the table at this stage. Do not think they'll become primary forces at the NHL level, they should develop to be very strong secondary scorring players.

As someone said on this thread, they are a year older than the 95s and do not overshadow them.

Carrier was born like 2 weeks before '95. Not a huge difference. There is more age difference between Drouin and MacKinnon/Duclair than between Carrier and Drouin.

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Watch for Kujawinski from Kingston to be top 10. Domi is also underrated.

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He brings size (6"3), reach, shiftiness, has a precise wrist shot and has very good speed with the puck.

He needs to refine his skating and work on his physical game, but nothing to worry about, he'll be an NHLer, if he continues to refine his game.

Like you, I don't see him mid 1st round, rather early 2nd (today), but that can change in a heartbeat, since he's improving at lightning speed!

His grandfather (Andre Pronovost) won cups in the 50s with the Canadians
Also, he had very solid numbers in the second half of the season. I think it was 40 points in his last 25 games or something like that. He was put in a more offensive role and flourished.


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Carrier was born like 2 weeks before '95. Not a huge difference. There is more age difference between Drouin and MacKinnon/Duclair than between Carrier and Drouin.
Yup totally agree with you, but the difference between Carrier and these 3 in terms of physical development is astronomical. Hence, being able to dominate at the Midget level (Mackinnon, Drouin & Duclair) in their first year, while Carrier and Mantha didn't even make the cut in their first year, speaks volume.

But they have turned the corner and are emerging as top liners for their respective teams. I have trumendous respect for Carrier and Mantha, for what they were able to accomplish with their respective teams last season. And I'm of the opinion that they will continue to build on last year's success.

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Also, he had very solid numbers in the second half of the season. I think it was 40 points in his last 25 games or something like that. He was put in a more offensive role and flourished.
He's always been an offensive threat. The kid has hands and a very good vision of the game. He's got moves as well, hopefully he'll use them more often this coming season.

What was missing prior to his emergence, was confidence in himself and his skills. For some reason that was awaken last January and he just flourished.

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