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07-24-2012, 10:34 PM
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Duclair is more like Evander Kane.
I agree, very good comparison..

Drouin I see as Datsyuk, no D though... But to the OP, Duclair a better stickhandler ??? Are you kidding me ? Drouin may be the best stickhandler in his class !

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Just my opinion of course.
Skill wise Duclair is close... But not in terms of pure stickhandling..

Duclair has average hockey sense it seems.. It's developped though. So maybe he catches Drouin in that regard.

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Skill wise Duclair is close... But not in terms of pure stickhandling..

Duclair has average hockey sense it seems.. It's developped though. So maybe he catches Drouin in that regard.
I'm going to remain arrogant and still say that I prefer Duclair's stickhandling. I admit I've seen Duclair more and every time he skates into the opponents zone he does this sweet little move that makes the defense puzzling, plus his speed which makes him that much harder to contain.

Totally agree that Drouin has MUCH better vision and passing ability. Nothing to argue about that.

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07-24-2012, 11:41 PM
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Isn't Duclair a skinny 5'10 kid ? How does that compare to Kane. Kane was a wrecking ball in his first few years in the Dub. A true power forward.

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Isn't Duclair a skinny 5'10 kid ? How does that compare to Kane. Kane was a wrecking ball in his first few years in the Dub. A true power forward.
Skin colour?

5'10 - 150 at Eliteprospect. Maybe close to 160 right now.

Yeah when I saw him play he's light as hell, but I do admit he does go for hits and tries to play physical. I still see a lot of Matt Duchene in him than Kane, IMO.

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07-24-2012, 11:49 PM
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He reminded me of Gilbert Brule and he was about as good a junior player as I ever seen. Not so much for the NHL though

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07-25-2012, 01:08 AM
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I'm going to remain arrogant and still say that I prefer Duclair's stickhandling. I admit I've seen Duclair more and every time he skates into the opponents zone he does this sweet little move that makes the defense puzzling, plus his speed which makes him that much harder to contain.

Totally agree that Drouin has MUCH better vision and passing ability. Nothing to argue about that.
I've seen Drouin play more, but I live where he played AAA...

Duclair is soo dam skinny, but he beats guys on pure skill, I don't know where you get Duchene from.. Kane suits him..

Once he gets bigger, he will destroy the league... I question his commitment to improving though..

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Skin colour?

5'10 - 150 at Eliteprospect. Maybe close to 160 right now.

Yeah when I saw him play he's light as hell, but I do admit he does go for hits and tries to play physical. I still see a lot of Matt Duchene in him than Kane, IMO.
He's 5'10-11 190 pounds as of July 24th. Said so himself, hard to get a better source than that lol.
EDIT: sorry, thought you were talking about Drouin. Ya, Duclair is 160-165. Training with Drouin tho, so he may have put on weight.

Drouin for sure has better stickhandling, but I won't argue with you if you don't agree... If you quesitoned his playmaking and IQ we'd have a different story

Drouin was outmuscling a lot of bigger guys in the corners, which really stuck out when he started to come into his own. Voracek was an elite set up man in the Q tho, so i agree with that aspect of a comparison. Duclair doesn't use the body like Kane can tho.

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07-25-2012, 02:55 AM
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He's 5'10-11 190 pounds as of July 24th. Said so himself, hard to get a better source than that lol.
EDIT: sorry, thought you were talking about Drouin. Ya, Duclair is 160-165. Training with Drouin tho, so he may have put on weight.

Drouin for sure has better stickhandling, but I won't argue with you if you don't agree... If you quesitoned his playmaking and IQ we'd have a different story

Drouin was outmuscling a lot of bigger guys in the corners, which really stuck out when he started to come into his own. Voracek was an elite set up man in the Q tho, so i agree with that aspect of a comparison. Duclair doesn't use the body like Kane can tho.

When he's pissed he does... He will start to learn tho.

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07-25-2012, 06:27 AM
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Duclair said on his Twitter two weeks ago that he was at 177 and his summer objective was 180. Not bad, he was at 159 in September 2011.

He should start the season at 5'11, 180.

Duclair is always in front of the net when he's not controlling the puck in the O zone. At 180, it will be easier than at 159. He's feisty when it gets tougher, Fred Roy had to stop him sometimes.

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07-25-2012, 10:09 AM
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Drouin better stickhandling than Duclair?

Duclair is more explosive, has more speed, one more wheel.

if i have choice, i take Duclair before Drouin.

Drouin is a very good player but the electric side of Duclair i like more.

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Drouin better stickhandling than Duclair?

Duclair is more explosive, has more speed, one more wheel.

if i have choice, i take Duclair before Drouin.

Drouin is a very good player but the electric side of Duclair i like more.
Maybe not much better, but better IMO. Even if Duclair has better stickhandling it certainly isn't by very much... definitely not worth a

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Drouin better stickhandling than Duclair?

Duclair is more explosive, has more speed, one more wheel.

if i have choice, i take Duclair before Drouin.

Drouin is a very good player but the electric side of Duclair i like more.
I've seen Drouin over 20 times and Duclair almost 10 and yes, Drouin has better stick-handling. He also is a better passer, has better hockey sense and vision. Duclair is a better skater and possibly has a better shot. But you can teach those things. Drouin's IQ and vision is probably the best in the draft and is much harder to develop.

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07-25-2012, 11:36 AM
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It's easy to know who's better. Just look at the location of posters.

"Duclair is so much better than Drouin, he's the real deal, he can walk on water!" - Quebec Remparts fan

"Drouin is so much better than Duclair, he's the real deal, he can walk on water!" - Halifax Mooseheads fan

Let's all agree they're both very different players and equally elite talents.

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It's easy to know who's better. Just look at the location of posters.

"Duclair is better than Drouin, he's the real deal, he can walk on water!" - Quebec Remparts fan

"Drouin is better than Duclair, he's the real deal, he can walk on water!" - Halifax Mooseheads fan

Let's all agree they're both very different players and equally elite talents.
Edited, if either one of them is better than the other it is not by much so yea I agree with your last statement.

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And left out of this is perhaps the best of the big 3 Q eligible guys (excluding Nate) is Erne. Lol.

Duclair
Shot
Speed

Drouin
Stickhandling
Vision/playmaking
IQ
Size

There, 4-2 Drouin

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Drouin may have the best stickhandling and hockey IQ in the draft.

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07-25-2012, 12:58 PM
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And left out of this is perhaps the best of the big 3 Q eligible guys (excluding Nate) is Erne. Lol.
I'm excited to see Erne this year. He has the potential to be a very elite power forward. I wouldn't mind seeing the Leafs draft him or Drouin if they can't get a guy like Barkov.

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I've seen both, I'm neutral on this. They played AAA here... I made the trek to see them.

Drouin is better, Duclair doesn't have the same stickhandling. Nor the hockey sense... He does tend to get by on pure talent.

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I've seen both, I'm neutral on this. They played AAA here... I made the trek to see them.

Drouin is better, Duclair doesn't have the same stickhandling. Nor the hockey sense... He does tend to get by on pure talent.
Agree with this, seen them in the Q and in AAA, Drouin is better as of right now. Both great players though.

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I'm going to remain arrogant and still say that I prefer Duclair's stickhandling. I admit I've seen Duclair more and every time he skates into the opponents zone he does this sweet little move that makes the defense puzzling, plus his speed which makes him that much harder to contain.

Totally agree that Drouin has MUCH better vision and passing ability. Nothing to argue about that.
Hey, I'm on your side, I prefer Duclair over the other 95s, and Duclair is a phenom and a great stick handler, but to be realistic, Drouin has slightly better hands.

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Hey, I'm on your side, I prefer Duclair over the other 95s, and Duclair is a phenom and a great stick handler, but to be realistic, Drouin has slightly better hands.
If I didn't know better I'd say your his father.... He doesn't have better hands.

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And left out of this is perhaps the best of the big 3 Q eligible guys (excluding Nate) is Erne. Lol.

Duclair
Shot
Speed

Drouin
Stickhandling
Vision/playmaking
IQ
Size

There, 4-2 Drouin
They both are 5"11 and Duclair is over 180lbs, a reporter from the Qc region twitted this in early July.

Duclair did get 35 assists, it takes playmaking abilities to get that much assists. And played a full season in the Q, while Drouin was hidding lifting weights in Midget AAA before joining the Q (that was a smart move from him, I have to admit).

Playmaking/vision, Drouin has it over Duclair, I admit that one also. but your board should look like this:

Duclair
Speed/shiftiness
shot/finisher
toughness
two-way player (+38)

Drouin
Stickhandling
Vision
playmaking
IQ

4 for 4 they are equal but bring different attributes to the table.

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If I didn't know better I'd say your his father.... He doesn't have better hands.
I WISH!!!!

My son is a 94, playing Junior A in a lost city in Ont, where the arena is behind a cow farm. after this coming year, he's hanging his skates......

On the "hands comment"

Duclair has hands to shoot
Drouin has hands to stickhandle in traffic.

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