If we acquired Tampa's first rounder in a trade involving Cory Schneider it will likely be a top 10 pick. If the value were there, a #9 (Tampa's current position) plus our 25-30 pick would get us a top 5 pick. However if we had a #9 pick I don't think I would trade up any further. Galchenyuk is likely to be available at #9 and I would be inclined to see where Gaunce, Reinhart and Ceci fall.
Schneider return. Atleast I believe that was his thinking. He has also been injured for a good chunk of the season so he will likely drop past the top 5.
If we acquired Tampa's first rounder in a trade involving Cory Schneider it will likely be a top 10 pick. If the value were there, a #9 (Tampa's current position) plus our 25-30 pick would get us a top 5 pick. However if we had a #9 pick I don't think I would trade up any further. Galchenyuk is likely to be available at #9 and I would be inclined to see where Gaunce, Reinhart and Ceci fall.
Luongo to TBL for the 9th we select Galchenyuk, then we trade our 1st and Raymond to draft Reinhart = win.
Luongo is worth more than the 9th overall pick, He himself was a 4th and is an elite goaltender, no matter what some fans say.
He won't land us a 4th. Teams crappy enough to land such a high lottery pick are generally rebuilding teams, trading for Luongo doesn't help them at all. The only way that's happening is through a 3 way deal.
With the way the team is playing right now, I want to talk about something other than how poorly they are playing.
Not a very exciting draft class, IMO, so I personally haven't really taken the time to follow it. Last season I watched a ton of junior games (way too many, haha) and even talked to scouts because lots of players were exceeding expectations and developing in unexpected ways.
Outside of Yakupov, Grigorenko, and Galchenyuk, it's IMO weaker all around than last year's. Last season the defensemen that are going Top 10 - 15 looked like gems, now they don't look all that impressive -- still good prospects just not as amazing as they seemed last season.
If he's available late in the first round hell yes. He's definitely talented.
The two games I watched, he looked like garbage. Wouldn't surprise me if he falls to the end of the 2nd, if not further. His skating is worse than Hodgson's.
The two games I watched, he looked like garbage. Wouldn't surprise me if he falls to the end of the 2nd, if not further. His skating is worse than Hodgson's.
At the CHL top prospects game I was very disappointed in him. He is really stocky which is good but so slow and an awkward skater. Only stood out for the wrong reasons.
At the CHL top prospects game I was very disappointed in him. He is really stocky which is good but so slow and an awkward skater. Only stood out for the wrong reasons.
Yup and it's not just that he's slow, he makes some of the widest turns I've ever seen a professional hockey player make. Somebody compared him to a garbage truck last season and that's not far from the truth.
His skating is lacking in pretty much every aspect imaginable. The only real positive is that he has a wide base and doesn't get knocked down very often but that's not much use on its own.
Yup and it's not just that he's slow, he makes some of the widest turns I've ever seen a professional hockey player make. Somebody compared him to a garbage truck last season and that's not far from the truth.
His skating is lacking in pretty much every aspect imaginable. The only real positive is that he has a wide base and doesn't get knocked down very often but that's not much use on its own.
A scouting report I read on him suggested he's feisty and likes to mix it up a little. On top of it he has some offensive skills. Would that be an accurate report?
A scouting report I read on him suggested he's feisty and likes to mix it up a little.
I don't know, I wouldn't describe him that way. I guess he's sort of chippy and he does excel at playing in the corners (when he wants to), but he's such a lazy guy and a bad skater. I don't see him as a guy that can play the way he does now in the NHL.
Biggest issue for me (alongside the, honestly, horrible skating) is that he hasn't shown much improvement from last year. Yes, he was injured, but you would still expect some improvement from the off-season.
It's a real tough year to judge some of the WHL talent in terms of this draft. There isn't a lot of parody in the league this year with a 6 really good teams and 10-12 terrible teams.
Example: Branden Troock, looked great in the prospects game playing with better players. His Seattle team is garbage and gets hammered constantly by Portland, Tri-City, and Spokane. Is he what his stats say a 24 pts in 55 games? If he played for Portland would he be a point a game player or buried on the 3rd/4th line?
Another puzzling factor with the Dub this year is all the top scorers have something in common. They are terrible skaters:
Shinnimin average at best
Stone: moves like one
Ferland: average
Ranford: glacier like
I wouldn't mind seeing the Canucks take Cain Franson in the mid-rounds. Has played quite well for the Giants this year as an 18/19 year old. Seems to be getting better the bigger he gets. Up from 160lbs last year to 175ish is what Don said on the radio the other day.
Though he plays for a local team so the likelihood of this occurring is low
I wouldn't mind seeing the Canucks take Cain Franson in the mid-rounds. Has played quite well for the Giants this year as an 18/19 year old. Seems to be getting better the bigger he gets. Up from 160lbs last year to 175ish is what Don said on the radio the other day.
Though he plays for a local team so the likelihood of this occurring is low
Im just hoping they continue to trend towards the way they drafted last year.
I want NHL players, PERIOD.
I dont care how long they take to get there, but it would be nice to start drafting guys like a J. Hansen, who can come up through the system and lock down a bottom 6 forward spot.
I mean everyone wants stars, who doesn't, but I want to see that internal push we've been waiting for since Gillis took over.
It's going to be hard with our lack of picks, but its doable....
The brass needs to start being a little more creative at the draft table (sorta like the 2nd round swap last year).
Round 1: Martin Frk W
Big kid with a lot of talent, dropped from top 10 to low 1st because of injuries and struggling somewhat this season on a talent packed moose heads roster.
Round 2: Dalton Thrower D
A lot like Bieksa, great offensively, huge hitter and like to fight. Also 6'3" and growing which is solid.
Round 5 & Beyond:
A.J. Michaelson FWD
Has been mentioned n the top 60 before but not lately. Very talented all around kid.
Branden Troock FWD
Tank of a player, much like David Booth, big player good skating, willing to get into dirty areas. Has been thrown around as a mid 3rd rounder at times.
Nikita Gusev FWD
Hasn't been mentioned at all for this years draft, but he's one of the most talented players in this years draft. Only a matter if he'll come over. Could be a good late pick. He has said he would want to come over...
Projected Undrafted/Late Round Picks to look @:
Luca Ciampini - A lot of hype around this kid, but hasn't lived up to it yet. Another Steven Anthony pickup?
Scott Oke - Was ranked top 90 last year but went undrafted. Should take a look at him.
Round 1: Martin Frk W
Big kid with a lot of talent, dropped from top 10 to low 1st because of injuries and struggling somewhat this season on a talent packed moose heads roster.
He has dropped because he's inconsistent, lazy, and skates worse than Hodgson; not to mention that his hockey IQ is highly suspect.
Round 1: Martin Frk W
Big kid with a lot of talent, dropped from top 10 to low 1st because of injuries and struggling somewhat this season on a talent packed moose heads roster.
Round 2: Dalton Thrower D
A lot like Bieksa, great offensively, huge hitter and like to fight. Also 6'3" and growing which is solid.
Round 5 & Beyond:
A.J. Michaelson FWD
Has been mentioned n the top 60 before but not lately. Very talented all around kid.
Branden Troock FWD
Tank of a player, much like David Booth, big player good skating, willing to get into dirty areas. Has been thrown around as a mid 3rd rounder at times.
Nikita Gusev FWD
Hasn't been mentioned at all for this years draft, but he's one of the most talented players in this years draft. Only a matter if he'll come over. Could be a good late pick. He has said he would want to come over...
Projected Undrafted/Late Round Picks to look @:
Luca Ciampini - A lot of hype around this kid, but hasn't lived up to it yet. Another Steven Anthony pickup?
Scott Oke - Was ranked top 90 last year but went undrafted. Should take a look at him.
Frk is a poor skater. Akin to Mr Hodgson, and it seems as if he doesn't have the work ethic required to improve it. He's 6'0" 200lbs, I dont see the big frame.
Thrower is 5'11.25", he is not 6'3, but that doesn't matter. I want him.
I think our 1st is going to get flipped for more picks in rounds 2 and 3, unless of course they have 'a guy' who falls into their laps.
I like the sounds of some of the guys feebster has brought up in the past as late rounders - Morgan Zulinick and Riley Barber.
Hoping to get a better grasp on Barber at the U-18's.
Matheson, Sissons and Matteau, McCabe are some interestings players to look out for in the 2nd/3rd round. Essentially we'll prob have either 2 1sts(Schneider trade) or a 1st and a couple picks in the 2nd and third(Restock Prospect Poll)
Frk is a poor skater. Akin to Mr Hodgson, and it seems as if he doesn't have the work ethic required to improve it. He's 6'0" 200lbs, I dont see the big frame.
Well, he's pretty big actually or at least he looks and plays big down low. I think it's his legs and the wide skating stance, pretty hard to knock off the puck. That and his shot is what I like about him. He has nice hands but because he's such a bad skater, he has zero shiftiness which means he won't be able to dangle at any level higher than juniors.
