If we deal Schneider for a top pick I hope we take Dumba. Edler Dumba would be a great pairing that can bring it in every area of the ice.
i rather deal him for a 1st + Purcell
Then deal one of our 1st for 2 2nds and a 4th.
We dont need both 1sts, what we need is prospect depth. We should keep 1 1st for a stud and deal 1 for depth(2nd rounders). 2nd Rounders are as likely as late 1sts to develop into NHL'ers especially if we have at least 3 2nd's.
Well, he's pretty big actually or at least he looks and plays big down low. I think it's his legs and the wide skating stance, pretty hard to knock off the puck. That and his shot is what I like about him. He has nice hands but because he's such a bad skater, he has zero shiftiness which means he won't be able to dangle at any level higher than juniors.
What I meant is when he gets to PRO leagues, his 6'0" 200lbs pound frame will be average, and wont lead to him being physically stronger than the competition he faces currently in junior hockey.
We dont need both 1sts, what we need is prospect depth. We should keep 1 1st for a stud and deal 1 for depth(2nd rounders). 2nd Rounders are as likely as late 1sts to develop into NHL'ers especially if we have at least 3 2nd's.
If they want to throw in Purcell that's fine by me
We don't need prospect depth, we need impact players that have Top 6 or Top 4 potential. Look at our current bottom six...filled with guys acquired for mid round picks or signed as free agents.
Prospect depth is acquired through college free agency, chl free agents, and european free agents.
Never been a fan of trading down unless a draft is extremely deep.
He will not be hitting like that in the NHL. Letang could also nail people before he got to the NHL but he's just not big enough to do it consistently now, thought he still has a big one here and there.
Ultimately, there's more to Dumba than hitting and that's what makes him an attractive prospect.
Yes I have. I'm personally not a fan. If the Canucks had a choice between him, Murray or Reilly, I'd hope they chose Murray first, then Reilly then him.
The thing with Letang is that if he was the norm, people would specifically point him out.
A guy of Letang's skill and strength at this size is as rare as their Center depth. He's more the exception IMO.
Well, Dumba is a likely Top 10 pick for a reason. He also has some amazing offensive skills and is pretty solid defensively. Big hits and physical play are just an added bonus.
Well, Dumba is a likely Top 10 pick for a reason. He also has some amazing offensive skills and is pretty solid defensively. Big hits and physical play are just an added bonus.
Fair enough but I just feel there are a lot of other guys in these past few seasons that were considered surefire top 10 picks that havent worked out.
Yes I have. I'm personally not a fan. If the Canucks had a choice between him, Murray or Reilly, I'd hope they chose Murray first, then Reilly then him.
That's fair. I personally would be against drafting Murray. Seems like a liability and doesnt have an edge what so ever. I do like Rielly though.
That's fair. I personally would be against drafting Murray. Seems like a liability and doesnt have an edge what so ever. I do like Rielly though.
Murray is not flashy, just sound. But he lacks the offensive skills that you would like to see from a PMD.
Dumba, has great upside, but also has the potential to be a Phaneuf, Jovo, McCabe type Dman. Could impress early in the career, but can't take their defensive game to where it needs to be in order to be relied upon as the top shutdown pair. Dumba has the most upside, but he is a guy who needs excellent coaching early in his career in order for him to make the right hockey decisions rather than the high risk play.
Reilly, local kid, but he blew out his ACL this season. He'll be back in the WHL next season.
As for D depth, not sure if you have followed the Nuck's drafting, but they loaded up on Dmen from rounds 4 on onwards in the past couple of drafts.
Patrick McNally, 4th rounder in 2010 - finished his Freshman year at Harvard
Adam Polasek - 5th round in 2010, 1st year in the AHL
KConn - 3rd in 2009, 2nd year in the AHL
Sauve - 2nd in 2008, 2nd year in the AHL
Jeremy Price -4th in 2009, finished his Junior year at Colgate
Peter Andersson - 5th in 2009, Swede, signed already, could come over to the AHL next season
Frank Coraddo - 5th rounder last season, impressed at prospects camp.
Lots of depth guys. One or two might turn into 2nd pairing Dmen. No guarantees though.
I'm pretty impressed with Tommernes actually. Seems like a great pmd that has a developed a bit of an edge defensively. Letangish. Very good 7th rounder. Glad MG didn't take the chance on signing him.
I don't think its very necessary to draft a dman in the first unless hes the bpa. I'd rather get a longterm LW to put alongside Kesler. Playmaking type.
I don't think its very necessary to draft a dman in the first unless hes the bpa. I'd rather get a longterm LW to put alongside Kesler. Playmaking type.
We're stacked at LW, we have LWs playing RW right now because we have so many of them. Is Booth not a long-term LW to put alongside Kesler?
Besides, drafting for an immediate need at the end of the 1st, when those players likely won't make the NHL for another 2-3 years, makes no sense.
We're stacked at LW, we have LWs playing RW right now because we have so many of them. Is Booth not a long-term LW to put alongside Kesler?
Besides, drafting for an immediate need at the end of the 1st, when those players likely won't make the NHL for another 2-3 years, makes no sense.
I wouldn't define the LW position on the Canucks as stacked but sure the team has a number of left wingers at the moment who make the team stronger. But I'm not a huge fan of Booth and I see him as a short term fill in for the next 2-3 years.
I don't know why you think I want to draft a LW as an immediate need but thats the opposite of what I'm getting at. I'd rather draft some high potential forwards to take over for the Sedins and Burrows in the future. That way the team contends for a longer period. That tendems future is a bit of a question since they are ufas soon and they may either leave the NHL in the next couple of years or their play may down grade. I don't see very many quality LWs in the prospect system at the moment anyways.
I'm more confident with the defensive prospects in the system. I think guys like McNally, Connauton, Corrado and Tanev have good potential and should be hitting their stride with this team 3-4 years from now. Also, I think its a distinct possibility that MG signs or trades for a top dman this offseason. Guys like Garrison or Schultz come to mind.
