Hell, I wanna hear more about magetism. I wanna know more about the exclusion principle and anti parallel spins! I wanna learn more about field alignment by external atoms! Lets dig into the disruptive effect of thermal vibrations.
Given the lack of arena news and the hilarity of the night's discussion, thought some relevant humor would fit. Sums up quite a bit of the arguments around the whole arena -
Hell, I wanna hear more about magetism. I wanna know more about the exclusion principle and anti parallel spins! I wanna learn more about field alignment by external atoms! Lets dig into the disruptive effect of thermal vibrations.
OMG, I think ... I've found someone ... who understands.
I love physics, and most importantly the mystery of gravity, 'rippling effects of gravitational waves'; I need to be the first to observe/find a 'gravity wave'. Space is a medium in which gravity is allowed to exist. Prove in and you prove the existance of God!
Really the medium part is hard to grasp since it is nothing; an important part of this question is can time change with time (to the fixed observer)? If so, does the infinite expansion of the universe slow with time or does time slow with it?
OMG, I think ... I've found someone ... who understands.
Actually, I don't really understand it much. I just read a paragraph on the basis of the subject, reworded some key points of interest into my own statements, and tried to come across really smart and as someone who knew what he was talking about.
Amazing what you can do with the interwebs and a half assed writing ability.
Expect a big rebound in oil royalties next year, and late this year.
What, so we will just be getting screwed and not totally screwed by the oil companies? Oil prices have been high enough the last few years that the province should be rolling in the dough. I'd say our share of royalties will get worse not better because the middle east is becoming a bit more stable.
What, so we will just be getting screwed and not totally screwed by the oil companies? Oil prices have been high enough the last few years that the province should be rolling in the dough. I'd say our share of royalties will get worse not better because the middle east is becoming a bit more stable.
Bah Humbug. Middle east a bit more stable?? Upgrade your cable package to include a news network or two. If anything it shows that anything can and does happen over there.
What, so we will just be getting screwed and not totally screwed by the oil companies? Oil prices have been high enough the last few years that the province should be rolling in the dough. I'd say our share of royalties will get worse not better because the middle east is becoming a bit more stable.
What, so we will just be getting screwed and not totally screwed by the oil companies? Oil prices have been high enough the last few years that the province should be rolling in the dough. I'd say our share of royalties will get worse not better because the middle east is becoming a bit more stable.
I complete agree with you that we have mismanaged our resources. If it was done properly, high royalties would not hinder exploration, and provide the necessary revenue to provide proper monitoring of the environment, resources, etc. to ensure they are extracted in a 'friendly' manner.
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Okay please keep the Middle East politics out of this guys. I know they're an extrapolation of how things pertain to the topic at hand, but please do the best you can. Thanks.
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edit: Unless Detroit is making a **** load of money from playoff revenue I don't see how they can be that successful. They have had a pretty empty building the last few years.
The Forbes numbers must be taken with a HUGE grain of salt.
How do the Oilers make so much money in operating profits compared to Calgary when Forbes estimates Calgary has $9M more in reveneue. The Oilers probably spent $5-7M less in real dollars on salary last year but this does not make up a $25M gap in costs. By Forbes numbers other teams need $50M more in revenue to have the same operating profits as the Oilers. They must be miracle workers in the Oilers front office.
Also not ethat Forbes suggests Dallas mlost about $1M last year. Bankruptcy filings show this to be $30M. Had they bothered to do any real searching they would have noticed this.
The Forbes numbers must be taken with a HUGE grain of salt.
How do the Oilers make so much money in operating profits compared to Calgary when Forbes estimates Calgary has $9M more in reveneue. The Oilers probably spent $5-7M less in real dollars on alary last year but this does not make up a $25M gap in costs. By Forbes numbers other team need $50M more in revenue to have the same operating profits as the Oilers. They must be miracle workers in the Oikers front office.
Also not ethat Forbes suggests Dallas mlost about $1M last year. Bankruptcy filings show this to be $30M. Had they bothered to do any real searching they would have noticed this.
yeah these Forbes franchise valuations (and the articles surrounding them) are widely known to be black holes of information... they are wildly inaccurate in many instances... they aren't even worth reading to be honest
Of course if the Forbes article was pro arena then it would be the beacon of financial wisdom with unassailable data.
20 million a year, 35 years....Ohhhhh shiny!
The deal has been reached and it is onward and upward, Katz is going to make a nice profit over the coming years, the city may or may not realize a net benefit from what it puts in.
The biggest problem is that nice headlines like "City of Edmonton will have a 95 million dollar capital short fall this year!" or "city to raise taxes by 4.5 % this year" are set to rankle people even if the tax increase in theory has nothing to do with this separate arena deal.
Of course if the Forbes article was pro arena then it would be the beacon of financial wisdom with unassailable data.
20 million a year, 35 years....Ohhhhh shiny!
The deal has been reached and it is onward and upward, Katz is going to make a nice profit over the coming years, the city may or may not realize a net benefit from what it puts in.
The biggest problem is that nice headlines like "City of Edmonton will have a 95 million dollar capital short fall this year!" or "city to raise taxes by 4.5 % this year" are set to rankle people even if the tax increase in theory has nothing to do with this separate arena deal.
No the Forbes numbers would be flawed no matter what they said about the Oilers quest for an arena. They estimate Dallas lost $1M last year. Bankruptcy filings show the loss to be $30M. These are court documents that the Forbes guys could have found if they cared. Does that sound like Woodward and Bernstein level journalism to you? Serious question!
No the Forbes numbers would be flawed no matter what they said about the Oilers quest for an arena. They estimate Dallas lost $1M last year. Bankruptcy filings show the loss to be $30M. These are court documents that the Forbes guys could have found if they cared. Does that sound like Woodward and Bernstein level journalism to you? Serious question!
Does it immediately folllow that if you find one fault in the league wide valuations that all the numbers are wrong?
Really?
Sounds like wanting to throw out all the numbers.
I've yet to see another independent source that has better information than Forbes.
Does it immediately folllow that if you find one fault in the league wide valuations that all the numbers are wrong?
Really?
One brutal miss where they are thirty times off the mark on the pertinent number (in spite of the correct number being in a recent public document) tends to sour people on the veracity of the rest of numbers.
I'm pretty sure no NHL team gives them any official numbers.
They're estimates. Plain and simple.
Yeah it even states that in the article that even though they are a trustworthy source you can't take their numbers as gospel as they are estimates.
Like I said, I beg to differ over the Detroit number unless making the playoffs brings them in that much revenue because over the past few years their barn has been pretty empty.
