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11-04-2011, 11:56 AM
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Kassian Ellis or Foligno?

Who would you guys rather have playing right now? Just wondering

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Ellis is the only one prepared to play in the NHL, so it's not much of a decision.

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Ellis is the only one prepared to play in the NHL, so it's not much of a decision.
Your opinion. But how do you get a guy ready for the NHL without them playing in the NHL?

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At the moment we've got tropp and adam with the big club. That's enough rookie power in the lineup at the moment I guess.

But Kassian and Foligno will get their looks at any point in this season for sure.

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Ellis is the only one prepared to play in the NHL, so it's not much of a decision.
This. It's Ellis and it's not even close, Foligno and Kassian both need time to work on the games in Rochester. They should not be rushed at all.

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Your opinion. But how do you get a guy ready for the NHL without them playing in the NHL?
Time. You don't throw guys into the fire. They need time to develop their games in Rochester. Additionally, you don't want these guys playing < 10 minutes in a game which they would be in Buffalo, you want them to be playing big minutes to improve. Let Ellis, who has done very well in the games he's played, keep doing what he does.

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Your opinion. But how do you get a guy ready for the NHL without them playing in the NHL?
It's also the opinion of pretty much every knowledgeable observer who watches the Amerks.

You get a guy ready for the NHL by getting consistent and correct play out of them at the AHL level. Kassian and Folgino aren't doing that yet. They need a full season at least in the A most likely before they should even be considered.

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Your opinion. But how do you get a guy ready for the NHL without them playing in the NHL?
It's obvious you disagree with the Ellis thought. Who do YOU think should be up with the club right now?

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Ellis, AINEC.

Kassian and Foligno need more time in the oven.

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Ellis is the only one prepared to play in the NHL, so it's not much of a decision.
Yeah, that's about it. Foligno and Kassian aren't there yet. Ellis' work ethic is also a positive influence that I appreciate on the roster.

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I would like to see what Kassian or Foligno can do on that 4th line. Boyes Kassian McCormick would be nice in my opinion.

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I would like to see what Kassian or Foligno can do on that 4th line. Boyes Kassian McCormick would be nice in my opinion.
Is that your opinion because of the "name reputation" of the player?

Or because you have seen them play and think their game will be good enough to be effective in the NHL? If this is the case, what have you seen that makes you think this?

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Ellis. I also prefer having Gaustad and Ellis at center in the bottom six with Ennis and Hecht out. Leino makes the most sense on the left wing with Roy and Stafford, where Ennis would have been. Hecht would be the third or fourth line center if healthy, but he isn't and might not be for a long time. Without Ellis in the lineup, either Leino would have to center the third line or McCormick would have to center the fourth line. Leino belongs on that second line right now and I very much prefer McCormick on the wing.

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Is that your opinion because of the "name reputation" of the player?

Or because you have seen them play and think their game will be good enough to be effective in the NHL? If this is the case, what have you seen that makes you think this?
His size 63, 205 lbs. Scoring ability. Can you say power forward?

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His size 63, 205 lbs. Scoring ability. Can you say power forward?
I'm 6"2, 225lbs (program weight :p ), and can score in pickup leagues. Doesn't mean I'm ready to play at the next level.

Same applies to Kassian. He has to show he can play a consistent game offensively and defensively before he will be a regular in the bigs.

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11-04-2011, 12:31 PM
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Zack Kassian has the ability to play in the NHL. He just has to develop a little bit longer. It takes a while for big guys like him to get adjusted, especially when they have an edge/ego to go along with it.

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