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11-05-2011, 07:45 PM
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It's not a clean hit if there are already five guys on the ice. He deserved a penalty.

Dubinsky knew there were five guys. He wasn't expecting a sixth to just hop out in front of him.
Absolutely. 6 players = too many men.

2 minutes.

Interference + a too many men you cannot justify that. Blunden hit the puck carry, it's impossible to have a proper interference call

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Somehow I'm not surprised this thread exists. 6th man on the ice throws a hit right off the bench, yeah, that's a terrible call.

The Habs should stop playing undisciplined hockey.
The too many men call everyone understands. How about the interference once? Also, how do the Rangers not get any instigating penalties? Take off your homer glasses <3

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No, you can put as many people on the ice as you want your just going to get a penalty for it, that's the two many men. I'm not sure who the random guy is but a player for Montreal made a clean hit. Why don't we say that the guy who didn't get off in time was the extra man and Blunden should have been on the ice.
He got on the ice as the extra man and just leveled someone. If that's legal there's a huge problem with this league.

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11-05-2011, 07:46 PM
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there were 6 people on the ice. blunden was the 6th man and one who hit dubinsky. i don't know what the rule is if the extra man hits somebody but it definitely should have been a PP for the rangers for too many men.
You got it right. And I'm a Habs fan.

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He tripped Boyle lol. That was the one legit call, the rest, not so much, but as a Ranger fan I'll take it.
At this rate, you guys ought to bulldoze Price. It's not like they'll call anything on you.

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See the hold on Andre just then? The refs didn't....

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Maybe you get the players right (Blunden hit Dubinsky), check the other thread that was already made about it, and THEN post it. Seriously there is a Habs GDT where you can do all the refs *****ing and whining, no need to make it redundant here.
Last I checked there was no rules against starting a topic on complaining about referees. Nor is this thread the same as the other one, which was more about the ejection of two certain players rather than the referees.

You complaining about another poster complaining is sure ironic.

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He got on the ice as the extra man and just leveled someone. If that's legal there's a huge problem with this league.
If it's on the guy with the puck (which it was) and is a clean hit (which it was) then it is only 1 penalty: Too many men on the ice.

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Oh no - boyle is waving his hand - he must have been slashed. Where are the officials?!!???
10:48 MTL David Desharnais : Tripping - 2 min

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11-05-2011, 07:48 PM
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Absolutely. 6 players = too many men.

2 minutes.

Interference + a too many men you cannot justify that. Blunden hit the puck carry, it's impossible to have a proper interference call
Honestly if this was the other way around you'd be singing a different tune.

You can't just hop on the ice as an extra man and level someone. It's dangerous to say the least.


There was one bad call against the habs so far, other than that, the game has been called correctly.

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You got it right. And I'm a Habs fan.

Close this thread.
Too many men cancels out the instigating penalty.

Habs should not have been on the pk let alone a 3-on-5.

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He got on the ice as the extra man and just leveled someone. If that's legal there's a huge problem with this league.
Youre making it sound like Blunden jumped on the ice for no other reason than to throw a malicious hit. It was a normal line change Cole just stopped skating and ended up a bit too far from the bench.

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46.7 Fighting After the Original Altercation - A game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who is assessed a major penalty for fighting after the original altercation has started.
Game misconducts are straight from the rule book, not sure why people are questioning this.

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Just turned the game on. It really seems like an off game for the refs.

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Youre making it sound like Blunden jumped on the ice for no other reason than to throw a malicious hit. It was a normal line change Cole just stopped skating and ended up a bit too far from the bench.
It was a dangerous play. If you condone that then fine, I'm not for a league that allows that kind of play though.

Carry on, I've added my two cents.

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11-05-2011, 07:51 PM
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Honestly if this was the other way around you'd be singing a different tune.

You can't just hop on the ice as an extra man and level someone. It's dangerous to say the least.


There was one bad call against the habs so far, other than that, the game has been called correctly.
Imagine the team playing with 4 players on the ice (while on even strength)… the 5th can step in whatever moment he wants, even if that means hitting a player while doing so… That IS NOT interference.

The only difference here is that Blunden is the 6th player on the ice = TMM call. Still no interference.

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For the record, I think it's a dumb rule but apparently it does exist:

46.7 Fighting After the Original Altercation - A game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on any player who is assessed a major penalty for fighting after the original altercation has started.

Notwithstanding this rule, at the discretion of the Referee, the automatic game misconduct penalty may be waived for a player or goalkeeper in the altercation if the opposing player was clearly the instigator of the altercation.
I don't like the rule either, especially if the fights are simultaneous. If players wait until another fight is done, I see the application. However, in the heat of the moment players may not know/care if another fight is ongoing.

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Honestly if this was the other way around you'd be singing a different tune.

You can't just hop on the ice as an extra man and level someone. It's dangerous to say the least.
Why would it have been less 'dangerous' if Cole had got off in time?

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He was the 6th man on the ice and interfered with the play. He had no right to join the play, let alone level someone who wasn't expecting it. Pretty sure that's going to be the rational that you hear from the league, too. I don't see how you think someone should just be allowed to jump onto the ice and clock someone and only have a too many men call be the end result.
Are you really gonna quote every single person who doesn't like the call and argue the exact same point every time?

I was fine with all the calls but the interference... I don't get it. And yes Jonathan, I understand your point of view.

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He got on the ice as the extra man and just leveled someone. If that's legal there's a huge problem with this league.
Please find where the interference rule states that the extra player making a hit is a penalty. I did half the work for you.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26348

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......and the refs are to blame for goal #3 how?

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It was a dangerous play. If you condone that then fine, I'm not for a league that allows that kind of play though.

Carry on, I've added my two cents.
2 minutes for a dangerous play?

Did he have the puck? Yes
Was it with his shoulder? Yes
Was the hit to the head? No
Was it charging? No

Besides the too many men, please find a rule that says it should have been a penalty.

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It was a dangerous play. If you condone that then fine, I'm not for a league that allows that kind of play though.

Carry on, I've added my two cents.
"No Hitting League is my kind of league"

The only good thing about this game is that the rangers are the worst team in the league at holding onto a lead....

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Referees are handing rangers the game now.

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