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11-07-2011, 02:06 PM
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2012 NHL Entry Draft

Thought it would be time to start a thread on this subject.

Mainly because I typically go see a few Junior/College games to see players who I believe that Phoenix may be interested in come the NHL Entry Draft.

I have good history in this matter. The lone player I went to see in 2006 we selected (Peter Mueller). The lone player I went to see in 2007 we also selected (Kyle Turris).

This year I have seen a couple of players play and wanted to put down my thoughts for future reference (much like I did with Mueller - who I wasn't overly enthralled with his speed but liked his playmaking ability and Turris who I thought had skill but "chicken legs" that would require years of development time).

Griffin Reinhart (D) is a 6'4 200+ lb d man with Edmonton. I didn't see top 2 D man hands or passing that I would expect in a player who is talked about as a potential top 10 selection. He is massive though relative to the competition in the WHL. People just don't want to be in the same corner he's in but I wouldn't call him overly dominate physically. The potential is there but I would need to see more of his play before I said that he's worth drafting in that 10-20 range.

Chandler Stephanson (LW/C) - An offensive player who drives the net effectively. Not overly physical but does create some chaos on the PP. Creates offensive chances. Potential 2nd line winger.


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11-07-2011, 02:26 PM
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is Chandler related in any way to former Coyote Logan? ugh another pedigree pick?

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11-07-2011, 02:33 PM
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It's a little early to prognosticate whom the Coyotes might pick, given how much their position and the relative ranks of various players will vary over the course of the year, but I do have a few observations:

1) Great draft for Swedish players. 2011 saw six go in the first round, and 2012 will likely eclipse that. I could see more than ten off the board after thirty picks, and most of those guys have very high upside. Sometimes you'll get a Sjostrom, but it seems rare that Swedes bust entirely (though it does happen).

2) There are also a ton of great names in this draft. Griffin Reinhart sounds like a he should be jousting, and Slater Koekkoek sounds like he should be chopping down redwoods. Martin Frk always just looks like a typo, and Zemgus Girgensons just looks like an accident. And then there's Nail Yakupov. Nail!

3) Overall, this draft is already being compared to the 2003 draft, and not without good reason. I have trouble believing it will be quite as deep, but there's a lot of talent in this class, both at the top end and throughout the first couple rounds. The Coyotes should not be moving picks.

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11-07-2011, 04:10 PM
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Twenty Five Forwards to Google:

1. Nail Yakupov
2. Mikhail Grigorenko
3. Filip Forsberg
4. Alex Galchenyuk
5. Brandan Gaunce
6. Sebastian Collberg
7. Zemgus Girgensens
8. Martin Frk
9. Andreas Anthanasiou
10. Jarrod Maidens
11. Pontus Aberg
12. Matia Marcantuoni
13. Teuvo Teravainen
14. Henrik Samuelsson
15. Ludvig Bystrom
16. Scott Laughton
17. Tom Wilson
18. Tomas Herti
19. Coda Gordon
20. Anton Slepyshev
21. Colton Sissons
22. Patrik Machac
23. Emil Lundberg
24. Phil DiGuiseppe
25. Charles Hudon

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11-07-2011, 04:35 PM
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Twenty Five Forwards to Google:

1. Nail Yakupov
2. Mikhail Grigorenko
3. Filip Forsberg
4. Alex Galchenyuk
5. Brandan Gaunce
6. Sebastian Collberg
7. Zemgus Girgensens
8. Martin Frk
9. Andreas Anthanasiou
10. Jarrod Maidens
11. Pontus Aberg
12. Matia Marcantuoni
13. Teuvo Teravainen
14. Henrik Samuelsson
15. Ludvig Bystrom
16. Scott Laughton
17. Tom Wilson
18. Tomas Herti
19. Coda Gordon
20. Anton Slepyshev
21. Colton Sissons
22. Patrik Machac
23. Emil Lundberg
24. Phil DiGuiseppe
25. Charles Hudon
related? if so we can pretty much bank those guys will be selected

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11-07-2011, 05:26 PM
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Henrik is Ulf's son. He played in AZ for a while and ie now over in the SEL. Ulf left because he had the opportunity to go back to Sweden and coach Henrik.

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Henrik is Ulf's son. He played in AZ for a while and ie now over in the SEL. Ulf left because he had the opportunity to go back to Sweden and coach Henrik.
I think Henrik went to the SEL to be coached by his dad (along with Ahnelov ). Wouldn't surprise me if the Coyotes pick him.

If he is still available with the 30th pick...


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11-07-2011, 06:02 PM
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I thought I remembered something else I hated from this offseason. The ****ing draft. Mike Smith has worked out well and there's not an awful lot GMDM can do about Turris, but that draft in-****ing-excusable. Please no more pedigree picks.

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Well, we're not going to completely 'fail' for Nail, and the team is playing well, so I'm hoping out of the group mentioned above that we get Pontus Aberg. Anyone scoring that well in Sweden has got to be a really good player.

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I'm hoping for Grigorenko. He'll fall to the 15-30 spot right, right? Right...

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I'm hoping for Grigorenko. He'll fall to the 15-30 spot right, right? Right...
Galchenyuk blew out his ACL and just might fall to the Coyotes. Whether that's the smart pick given the injury is another conversation (not that knee injuries are much of a red flag for the Coyotes).

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Galchenyuk blew out his ACL and just might fall to the Coyotes. Whether that's the smart pick given the injury is another conversation (not that knee injuries are much of a red flag for the Coyotes).
Do you have any other medical history on the kid? If repaired, rested and rehapped properly, a torn ACL alone, without prior knee injury, shouldn't be too much of a red flag. It all depends upon the medical care.

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He's in Sarnia, same as Murphy. have to assume same care.

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I've seen Zemgus Girgensons play several times in the last 4 years, usually against kids 2 years older and skating circles around them all. Loved his game, very team-oriented player, a bit disappointed he's already Top 10 but his move to North America pretty much blew the lid open. He mirrors Mikkel Boedker in many ways.

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He's been pretty vocal in spurning the CHL. He's hell bent on Vermont and doesn't seem to give a damn what anybody thinks about it. Personally I respect the hell out that. GMs may not find it so commendable, however.

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Martin Frk. Aren't the Coyotes big on their Czech players?

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Martin Frk. Aren't the Coyotes big on their Czech players?
No. Hanzal is the only Czech I can recall us selecting in the first round. I like Frk just fine, though. I believe he's going to be injured for the season, however. We do seem to like injured players.

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No. Hanzal is the only Czech I can recall us selecting in the first round. I like Frk just fine, though. I believe he's going to be injured for the season, however. We do seem to like injured players.
We also took Koreis back in 2002. 2002 was an awful draft. Went for size instead of skill that draft.

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We also took Koreis back in 2002. 2002 was an awful draft. Went for size instead of skill that draft.
Koreis was supposed to be the safest player in the first round. Yeah, I guess not. Haha.

Eager was a can't miss NHLer, too. All that size and all that speed. The only question was whether he'd be a fourth liner or a first liner. Whoops.

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Koreis was supposed to be the safest player in the first round. Yeah, I guess not. Haha.

Eager was a can't miss NHLer, too. All that size and all that speed. The only question was whether he'd be a fourth liner or a first liner. Whoops.
Hey, be nice, we're talking about the only Coyote draft pick to ever win the Stanley Cup in the 15 years we've been here.

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Twenty Five Forwards to Google:

1. Nail Yakupov
2. Mikhail Grigorenko
3. Filip Forsberg
4. Alex Galchenyuk
5. Brandan Gaunce
6. Sebastian Collberg
7. Zemgus Girgensens
8. Martin Frk
9. Andreas Anthanasiou
10. Jarrod Maidens
11. Pontus Aberg
12. Matia Marcantuoni
13. Teuvo Teravainen
14. Henrik Samuelsson
15. Ludvig Bystrom
16. Scott Laughton
17. Tom Wilson
18. Tomas Herti
19. Coda Gordon
20. Anton Slepyshev
21. Colton Sissons
22. Patrik Machac
23. Emil Lundberg
24. Phil DiGuiseppe
25. Charles Hudon
If the Yotes get to pick around the same spot as last year, how many of the above will be crossed off the list when our turn comes? given that there's a **** ton of highly rated defencemen in this draft.

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Not sure where each of these guys may wind up being ranked in the scouting services final list, but I am pretty sure that one of Gaunce and Maidens might be available to us. There is another kid, Stefane Matteau, who seems like he could be a guy we eye late in the 1st or early in the 2nd. Cristoval Nieves is also an option...

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Galchenyuk blew out his ACL and just might fall to the Coyotes. Whether that's the smart pick given the injury is another conversation (not that knee injuries are much of a red flag for the Coyotes).
I would love for Galchenyuk to fall to us, but I think we've gotten that lucky bit for the next few years when Gormley fell to us at 13. In any event, I really hope that first pick is a center and that this scouting team can make some much needed improvements.

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If the Yotes get to pick around the same spot as last year, how many of the above will be crossed off the list when our turn comes? given that there's a **** ton of highly rated defencemen in this draft.
I'm expecting the Coyotes to pick last in the 1st round, unless if they trade to move up...

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So from what we have said so far, look to draft a defense-man with a blown out knee.

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