Wow, I've never seen us agree so easily. I also would pass on Gaunce and be happy with any of those other players. Aberg and Collberg are probably tops on my list, I have a soft spot for Swedes
More Swedes and Finns please. Kinda sucked out on our recent NA picks (Wheeler, Turris, Mueller) but euros usually find a way to be useful even if they aren't scoring, like Boedker.
More Swedes and Finns please. Kinda sucked out on our recent NA picks (Wheeler, Turris, Mueller) but euros usually find a way to be useful even if they aren't scoring, like Boedker.
Need to replace some of the grit and determination that we may lose with Doan though. If Gaunce has top 2 line potential then I think he gets serious consideration. If his upside is a 3rd liner then I think we are looking elsewhere. It all depends where we draft as well. Keep in mind there are a number of teams that are pretty much a lock to draft a forward including Carolina who are on record for their disdain for drafting a D in the first round given the extended development time.
Need to replace some of the grit and determination that we may lose with Doan though.
You can't magically acquire that, or even hope to, from the draft and a young kid. In recent years, there's really only been one player to fit that bill and that's Landeskog. A swede. If we lose Doan, it means the team has moved. If the team has moved, I expect the roster to change radically. From what some fans have said, management may even get rid of Maloney and Tippett.
I hate spending a first rounder on intangibles. It's hard enough finding NHL caliber skill. If Gaunce is there past 20 I'm not going to argue with the pick.
I dont like this draft much but I'm personally hoping for Girgensons. Its not so much his hockey skills which are pretty good but not superstar level... but his intangibles and attitude to making it that I like.
Whatever happened to all the talk about this supposedly being a ridiculous deep draft year? Did a bunch of players pull an Angelo Esposito or something?
Whatever happened to all the talk about this supposedly being a ridiculous deep draft year? Did a bunch of players pull an Angelo Esposito or something?
Everybody got hurt. Lots of question marks. There's talent but did your scouts actually see it? Limited viewings and huge question marks on development. Do you really want to trade up to take a player who played two games in Sarnia Sting's Galchenyk or Morgan Reilly who's played what 18 games this year? Their will be huge hype and ranking changes based on what happens in the playoffs and the U-18's. Moreso than probably any other year.
Whatever happened to all the talk about this supposedly being a ridiculous deep draft year? Did a bunch of players pull an Angelo Esposito or something?
Yes actually. That and injuries. A lot of guys had amazing years for their age group LAST season. Also, everyone just assumed there would he out of nowhere, late rising dark horses like every year. Instead, top guys got hurt, middling guys had "Meh" seasons and there weren't many surprises.
More Swedes and Finns please. Kinda sucked out on our recent NA picks (Wheeler, Turris, Mueller) but euros usually find a way to be useful even if they aren't scoring, like Boedker.
I just saw Timothy Bozon's stat line for this season and it got my interest. He has 36 goals and 35 assists in 71 games in the WHL this year and he's plus 27. Since I hadn't heard anything about him and his name rarely comes up in draft rankings I figured there must be something wrong with his playing style. I only found this one report on him and it has nothing but good things to say about his game. He's got size, speed, vision and is a true sniper. I wonder what he'll have to do in the playoffs to make himself a first rounder in June.
Need to replace some of the grit and determination that we may lose with Doan though. If Gaunce has top 2 line potential then I think he gets serious consideration. If his upside is a 3rd liner then I think we are looking elsewhere. It all depends where we draft as well. Keep in mind there are a number of teams that are pretty much a lock to draft a forward including Carolina who are on record for their disdain for drafting a D in the first round given the extended development time.
While I would be the first to say that Gaunce would be great for us, I think he will be gone by the time that we pick. Same thing happened with McNeill last year. A center with size that displays potential for a nice to great 2 way game will be taken a few picks earlier than where he should go. Right now, I have Gaunce just outside the top 10...
With Edmonton getting the #1 pick (poor, poor Columbus), I'm wondering how everyone would feel about moving Gormley for it? I'd consider it but they'd probably want more and I don't think I'd be willing to part with anymore outside of perhaps a fringe prospect or later round draft pick.
I don't know...somehow I get a feeling that this draft ends up being nothing special, Yakupov plays a reckless game and could be injury prone in the pros, Grigs looks uninspired and all the "D" are average offensively besides Reilly.
I don't know, it could end up being a stinker and Gormley is by far better D wise than anyone in this draft, and he's farther along. We've got Murphy waiting in the wings and all the players are staggered enough that by the time Murphy is ready, Yandle will be the old man in the group, we could have the best sub-30yr old d corp in the NHL in 4 years.
With Edmonton getting the #1 pick (poor, poor Columbus), I'm wondering how everyone would feel about moving Gormley for it? I'd consider it but they'd probably want more and I don't think I'd be willing to part with anymore outside of perhaps a fringe prospect or later round draft pick.
I was thinking this same question. I don't love the idea of adding Yakupov enough to give up Gormley. I would however trade Gormley straight up for Galchenyuk, which is weird because Yakupov clearly has a higher value.
Yakupov will be a bust. How many superstars have a last name that starts with Y? None. That's how many.
All right, maybe there was one guy. But in his case, the Y was followed immediately by a Z. The craziness canceled itself out. But in Yakupov's case, it's just an A. Pedestrian, Plain Jane A.
Yakupov will be a bust. How many superstars have a last name that starts with Y? None. That's how many.
All right, maybe there was one guy. But in his case, the Y was followed immediately by a Z. The craziness canceled itself out. But in Yakupov's case, it's just an A. Pedestrian, Plain Jane A.
"Bust" written all over him. Trust me.
Colour me confused as to why you weren't hired as our head scout.
I don't know...somehow I get a feeling that this draft ends up being nothing special, Yakupov plays a reckless game and could be injury prone in the pros, Grigs looks uninspired and all the "D" are average offensively besides Reilly.
I don't know, it could end up being a stinker and Gormley is by far better D wise than anyone in this draft, and he's farther along. We've got Murphy waiting in the wings and all the players are staggered enough that by the time Murphy is ready, Yandle will be the old man in the group, we could have the best sub-30yr old d corp in the NHL in 4 years.
OEL/Rundblad
Yandle/Stone
Gormley/Murphy
Oh I wouldn't trade Gormley for a D man, that would be ridiculous. IF and I mean IF there was to be any trade, I would assume it'd be for a forward who projects safely as a 1st liner. Any other trade would be pointless and foolish IMHO.
btw...I don't know how but I totally forgot about Rundblad! Damn the Coyotes cupboards are stacked on D!!!!
Yakupov will be a bust. How many superstars have a last name that starts with Y? None. That's how many.
All right, maybe there was one guy. But in his case, the Y was followed immediately by a Z. The craziness canceled itself out. But in Yakupov's case, it's just an A. Pedestrian, Plain Jane A.
Do guys like Summers or Schlemko have any value now now that they have been in the NHL for a bit? Too much depth on the left side.
Some but not enough to hold their own if we are going to try to get the 1st overall and no way I'm looking to trade Gormley either as he should fit in at around the time Morris can't play anymore.
If we lose Doan, it means the team has moved. If the team has moved, I expect the roster to change radically. From what some fans have said, management may even get rid of Maloney and Tippett. 
