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11-06-2011, 12:49 AM
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If Radulov were to return towards the end of the season...

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Radulov will be back, i have a gut feeling
I have zero to base this on, but my gut says that Poile and Radulov have spoken already and that Radulov will be allowed to return at the end of the KHL season this year to complete the final year of his ELC and act as a deadline acquisition in exchange for signing a contract extension...

Radulov will be back next season at the latest IMO...

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11-07-2011, 10:07 PM
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What Seth Said...(Radulov)

Just as the title says Seth said something about Radulov which has my wheels spinning.

Let's say Seth's hypothesis is true and Radulov comes back mid-season. What would the roster look like?

Smith-Legwand-Wilson
Erat-Fisher-SK
Radulov-?-Hornqvist
Spaling Smithson-Tootoo
McG-Halischuk

I have a question mark on the center position because I think that's where the Pred will make a move. When I hear a 'Mike Fisher' type move I litterally think another Mike Fisher style player. Someone big who can play defense so Radulov can shoot and Hornqvist can clean up rebounds. Can Geoffrion do this? I'm not sure. Would you split up Spaling-Smithson to put Smithson on this line?

Just fun stuff to think about.

(Yes, I know Seth has no information to base this on but the guy's idea looks solid.)

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11-08-2011, 12:25 AM
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That's an interesting idea Seth. I'd love to see it happen. I'm not too sure Poile would wanna give up that last year on the ELC though. That might be what it takes to get Rad back though.

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11-08-2011, 01:34 AM
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When does the KHL season end? Is Radulov's contract up after this year?

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11-08-2011, 02:21 AM
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That could seem very possible Slake. And boy I sure wouldnt mind it. Obviously id rather have him play a full year on that ELC but he is worth it.

And to add on what BFC was saying, I agree it looks like that could be the case. But I dont generally think we need a Center. This is how I would set up the lines lets say if we added Okposo.

Wilson-Smith-Radulov
Erat-Legwand-Okposo
Kostitsyn-Fisher-Hornqvist
Tootoo-Smithson-Spaling.

Wilson, Smith, and Leggy are all Centers, no need to have them all on a line if Rads comes back. Smith and Wilson have both played C most of their lives. Gotta start sometime, Smith has even said he prefers C since its his natural position and he can create more offense. So the center position truly shouldnt be a problem.

But going after a guy like Weiss, Umberger, Bourque etc... would be the sprinkles on top if Rads came back.

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When does the KHL season end? Is Radulov's contract up after this year?
I believe the playoffs end in April, which is a little late, but he would be like a deadline acquisition which we would welcome with open arms...

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11-08-2011, 02:48 AM
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I hope so. Sucks that he left, but if he comes back, I can see him being a star player, and more importantly, a player that can push the Preds team for a deep playoff run or possibly a cup.

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Question: does Radulov have any desire to play for Nashville? If he was unhappy enough to bolt before, why are we assuming that he'll be thrilled to be here again?

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Question: does Radulov have any desire to play for Nashville? If he was unhappy enough to bolt before, why are we assuming that he'll be thrilled to be here again?
Well he was asked by Poile and company if he wanted his rights traded and he said no i want to play for nashville, so take that for what its worth

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Radulov playing this year gets complicated by 13.23 of the CBA. He isn't exactly on loan from the Preds to Ufa so the big question becomes can he return to the NHL this season without clearing waivers first.

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Feb 26th is the end of the regular season in the KHL. Currently UFA is tied for 6th in the East of the KHL. Playoff spot but very close to not making the playoffs.


Ironically, the NHL trade deadline should be on the 27th.

Now, it's just a theory without any hard merit just a nice 'what if?'

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Wouldn't he need to pass the waivers?

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and so it begins...

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That could seem very possible Slake. And boy I sure wouldnt mind it. Obviously id rather have him play a full year on that ELC but he is worth it.

And to add on what BFC was saying, I agree it looks like that could be the case. But I dont generally think we need a Center. This is how I would set up the lines lets say if we added Okposo.

Wilson-Smith-Radulov
Erat-Legwand-Okposo
Kostitsyn-Fisher-Hornqvist
Tootoo-Smithson-Spaling.

Wilson, Smith, and Leggy are all Centers, no need to have them all on a line if Rads comes back. Smith and Wilson have both played C most of their lives. Gotta start sometime, Smith has even said he prefers C since its his natural position and he can create more offense. So the center position truly shouldnt be a problem.

But going after a guy like Weiss, Umberger, Bourque etc... would be the sprinkles on top if Rads came back.
Might be difficult to get since the Islanders highly value him.

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Wouldn't he need to pass the waivers?
If I'm understanding the CBA correctly .... yes.

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If I'm understanding the CBA correctly .... yes.
I wouldn't think so because he is still Nashvilles property as a suspended player I would be shocked if he needed too.

I don't want him to return in april The time lines don't match up. If he makes the playoffs, then there is no way he can get back here in time to make a real impact. Ending his season on the 26th of febuarary is also just a little tight. Do we really want to add him this late into a season?

Wait until next season. I want a full year and playoffs from Rads.


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Radulov playing this year gets complicated by 13.23 of the CBA. He isn't exactly on loan from the Preds to Ufa so the big question becomes can he return to the NHL this season without clearing waivers first.
I would say that wouldnt apply since we didnt sign him to a new contact and then try to bring him over. I would think from the NHL's standpoint this is just a suspended player finally showing up to honor his contract.

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It's my understanding that as a suspended player, he's treated differently than a new contract and wouldn't have to pass through waivers...and I *think* Poile confirmed that.

Something telling-- in Poile's quotes about adding offense\signing the core-- he said, paraphrasing

"we're still looking for offense, be that Radulov coming back or another Mike Fisher type trade in the season or at the deadline"

Given the second part of that statement...it certainly sounds like he's speaking about Radulov in the present tense?

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There is no doubt that Radulov would add big offense and is very talented, but my issue is this: Assuming we are still good enough later in the season to be buyers, would bringing in a guy who previously bolted on the team to play overseas going to disrupt a good locker room with good chemistry? I would rather not risk this and make a deadline deal instead. Then get him for a full season next year.

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It's my understanding that as a suspended player, he's treated differently than a new contract and wouldn't have to pass through waivers...and I *think* Poile confirmed that.

Something telling-- in Poile's quotes about adding offense\signing the core-- he said, paraphrasing

"we're still looking for offense, be that Radulov coming back or another Mike Fisher type trade in the season or at the deadline"

Given the second part of that statement...it certainly sounds like he's speaking about Radulov in the present tense?
that was my take as well, that he thought Rads at some point this season was a possibility.

For Poile, who normally doesnt say much of anything about what trades/acquisitions he is working on, to speak this frankly says to me that its already been discussed and is likely to happen.

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There's only 6-7 players on the roster who were here when Rads left anyway, so there aren't as many hard feelings in the locker room. And if it was purely a money/homesick decision, I think the guys are professional and wouldn't hold that against him. They all want to win and adding firepower like Radulov would be a welcome addition.

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There's only 6-7 players on the roster who were here when Rads left anyway, so there aren't as many hard feelings in the locker room. And if it was purely a money/homesick decision, I think the guys are professional and wouldn't hold that against him. They all want to win and adding firepower like Radulov would be a welcome addition.
I would think before he went into the locker room for the first time Weber and Erat would talk to him and remind him that we are a hard working team and if he keeps his yap shut, listens to the coaches and doesnt act like a primma donna all will be forgiven.

I would really be interested to see what Kostitsyn would say to him, as well, since he has adapted nicely to the Trotz system...

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I like adding Radulov and welcome him back, but from a financial stand point, if we add him in February we lose a half year of his final cheap year in his contract... That being said, if he comes back and lights it up it would probably we worth it.

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In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs) only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim.
He isn't on loan. He is playing in a league outside North America. There aren't any provisions for a player suspended from his current NHL club due to bailing on his contract years ago. If somebody can find a provision in the CBA that would allow him to come back during the season without waiver exposure, let me know. I don't see it..

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If I'm understanding the CBA correctly .... yes.
David Poile has specifically stated that Radulov does not have to clear waivers to return midseason. Bettman and Bill Daly have said the same on prior occasions as well. He is not subject to the CBA clause regarding players playing in Europe...

P.S. This was BFC's thread. I copied my post from the "Big 3 extentsion" thread and unfortunately when it did the timestamps reverted mine to the original post...

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