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11-11-2011, 04:03 PM
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I just don't understand why there isn't any paperwork or news reports as to why he didn't pursue it. I'm no lawyer but i would think they'd have to fill out a report or something
A report to whom?

It was an internal Penn State investigation. The police were never brought in or involved.

If Penn State does have internal documents relating to that investigation, they will certainly be subpoenaed and submitted as evidence in Sandusky's trial.

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You made the accusation .... it's on YOU to back it up.... Not him.
No third man in!

I guess that sounds about right. These days, you are accused of being a "player" in PSU football.

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A report to whom?

It was an internal Penn State investigation. The police were never brought in or involved.

If Penn State does have internal documents relating to that investigation, they will certainly be subpoenaed and submitted as evidence in Sandusky's trial.
"One of the questions surrounding the sex-abuse case against Jerry Sandusky is why a former district attorney chose not to prosecute the then-Penn State assistant coach in 1998 after reports surfaced that he had inappropriate interactions with a boy."

If the DISTRICT ATTORNEY was involved ...it wasn't just an internal investigation was it?...

Unless Penn State did their internal investigation and then contacted the DA for his advice?... But that wouldn't make sense to do for a University trying to cover it up.

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mcqueary has been placed on administrative leave. i've read some speculation that the college probably can't (or won't, to avoid litigation) fire him due to his status as a whistle-blower.

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mcqueary has been placed on administrative leave. i've read some speculation that the college probably can't fire him due to his status as a whistle-blower.
How the hell does he qualify? He kept it internal, and when it was clear it was being covered up he didn't take it to the proper authorities?

If you tell your boss your company is doing something illegal, but nothing further happens AND you do nothing further...you didn't blow the whistle.

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How the hell does he qualify? He kept it internal, and when it was clear it was being covered up he didn't take it to the proper authorities?

If you tell your boss your company is doing something illegal, but nothing further happens AND you do nothing further...you didn't blow the whistle.
Some have called for McQueary to be fired, but the assistant coach could be protected as a whistleblower. Gerald J. Williams, a partner at a Philadelphia law firm, said Pennsylvania law is broad in protecting a person who reports wrongdoing, as long as that person is part of a governmental or quasi-governmental institution, such as Penn State.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...nistrativ.html

i'm guessing (not having read the text) that the law's intent is to promote good government by protecting any public employee who uncovers wrongdoing from retaliation.


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I'm actually interested in what happened in '98 .... It says "alleged" sexual misconduct.... What happened with the case?... Dropped? .. Settled? Did it ever go to trial? ...
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I just don't understand why there isn't any paperwork or news reports as to why he didn't pursue it. I'm no lawyer but i would think they'd have to fill out a report or something.


It's very strange indeed.
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"One of the questions surrounding the sex-abuse case against Jerry Sandusky is why a former district attorney chose not to prosecute the then-Penn State assistant coach in 1998 after reports surfaced that he had inappropriate interactions with a boy."

If the DISTRICT ATTORNEY was involved ...it wasn't just an internal investigation was it?...

Unless Penn State did their internal investigation and then contacted the DA for his advice?... But that wouldn't make sense to do for a University trying to cover it up.
Questions, doubts, puzzles, enigmas, oh my!

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Interesting read....

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...-rally-program


.. "Former Penn State receiver and running back Rich Mauti organized what he hopes will be one of the largest gatherings of former Nittany Lions players to stand on the sideline ever, in an effort to show support for their embattled program.

Mauti sent emails to more than 800 former Nittany Lions and asked them to attend 12th-ranked Penn State's home finale against No. 19 Nebraska on Saturday. He wants players who took pride in wearing the school's classic blue-and-white uniforms, and fondly represented their university years after they played their final down, to return their thanks to a program -- not just former coach Joe Paterno -- that gave them so much."

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Maybe a bit of an overstatement. Terry acts like he's a major player though.

And, as long as we're holding each other's feet to the fire, you have no evidence that he's not a major player.
Yeah... don't go down this road.

If you make a claim, it's on you to back it up with something, anything; not others to debunk it.
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Interesting read....

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...-rally-program


.. "Former Penn State receiver and running back Rich Mauti organized what he hopes will be one of the largest gatherings of former Nittany Lions players to stand on the sideline ever, in an effort to show support for their embattled program.

Mauti sent emails to more than 800 former Nittany Lions and asked them to attend 12th-ranked Penn State's home finale against No. 19 Nebraska on Saturday. He wants players who took pride in wearing the school's classic blue-and-white uniforms, and fondly represented their university years after they played their final down, to return their thanks to a program -- not just former coach Joe Paterno -- that gave them so much."
I really don't know what to make of this. On one hand, I understand what they're trying to do. They want to separate all the good Penn State has done from the bad caused by a minority.

However, I feel like it's in slightly poor taste at this point.

edit: oh god.. this is just flat out embarassing.

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Sam Stellatella, a three-position player in the 1950s, has donated money to Sandusky's defense and urged other former players to do the same.

"I told him he's going to need a million dollars to defend himself," the 73-year-old Stellatella said. "He called me back and said, 'What am I going to do with this money?' I said, 'Use it for your lawyer because you're going to need it.' "

Stellatella sent Sandusky $100. He wrote personal letters to other members of the 1959 Liberty Bowl team that defeated a Bear Bryant-coached Alabama team and asked they also donate. He does not know how much money was raised.

"I know some of the guys sent money," Stellatella told The Associated Press. "Here's the thing, these are horrendous charges against him. But he's still entitled to his day in court. Everybody's prejudged him. He's done horrendous damage to Paterno and (athletic director Tim) Curley and the football program. I don't listen to the news and I don't read the reports of what he did because I would get too upset.
Guy sends $100 to help Sandusky's case. Then he admits he hasn't actually read the reports (Grand Jury) of what he did because he would get too upset.

What the **** is wrong with people?

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11-11-2011, 11:45 PM
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Yeah... don't go down this road.

If you make a claim, it's on you to back it up with something, anything; not others to debunk it.

I really don't know what to make of this. On one hand, I understand what they're trying to do. They want to separate all the good Penn State has done from the bad caused by a minority.

However, I feel like it's in slightly poor taste at this point.

edit: oh god.. this is just flat out embarassing.



Guy sends $100 to help Sandusky's case. Then he admits he hasn't actually read the reports (Grand Jury) of what he did because he would get too upset.

What the **** is wrong with people?

That one is really strange.... The Guy is 73 years old...so obviously Sandusky didnt coach him.... I could see it if Sandusky had coached him or helped at some point thruout his life .... but this guy just seems senile.

I think the gathering of the players is a good thing.... to show the Program is larger than even Paterno. Each one of them are part of the family and it shouldn't be destroyed because of a few.

However ... i wouldnt be surprised if it turns ugly...once some of the players that attend start talking to the media. For everyones sake... hope they just show up to support the school and current players and not say a word to the media about the situation.

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There is talk that the Penn State players plan to walk a game ball to JoePa's house should they win today.

I wonder if Nebraska becomes America's Team for an afternoon....

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Had a fascinating/frank talk with BUF owner/Penn State alum Terry Pegula about ongoing scandal.at PSU. Story will be up on tsn.ca shortly
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heres the link: http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=380672

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"This is not about covering your ass. Telling the truth now will go a long way towards getting everyone through this. If there's going to be a blind allegiance to anyone or anything here, it needs to be the university and to the truth...that's how we get to the bottom of what happened, that's how we get our image back."

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Just when I thought I couldn't respect Pegula more......he blows off TBN.

God bless this man.

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Just when I thought I couldn't respect Pegula more......he blows off TBN.

God bless this man.
Yeah, that's the first thing I thought of, too. TBN has been pushing for the story that he just gave to MacKenzie. God, I love how much ownership, management, and the players hate that rag.

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"Our concern and compassion should be for the children involved in these terrible allegations," he said in a telephone interview from Boca Raton, Fla. "Whomever may have been involved in any way, anyone who knew anything, they've got to come clean. They've got to step forward and say, 'Here's what I know, here's what happened...' and that includes you know who," a seemingly obvious reference to Penn State legendary football coach Joe Paterno.


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Just when I thought I couldn't respect Pegula more......he blows off TBN.

God bless this man.
Eh. I view it as a desire to speak to a national outlet and not a local one simply to increase publicity. I like it, don't get me wrong - but I think the (lack of) relationship between local paper and team is being a bit over-scrutinized.

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Speaking of Pegaula v TBN:

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article636201.ece


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Eh. I view it as a desire to speak to a national outlet and not a local one simply to increase publicity. I like it, don't get me wrong - but I think the (lack of) relationship between local paper and team is being a bit over-scrutinized.
I disagree. More likely, in my opinion, TSN contacted Pegula for an interview, like TBN, and he wasn't prepared at that time to comment. TSN waited until Pegula was ready to talk, and then went forward. They didn't publicize the fact that Pegula had no comment like TBN did. That wasn't necessary.

TBN needs to understand that the world doesn't revolve around them.

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Mckenzie: Sabres' Pegula Speaks Out On Penn State Scandal

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=380672


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Pegula just gave TBN a big **** you. And I can't be happier.


Poor Harrington is crying on Twitter.

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Not that it isn't bad enough. but i have to wonder if the shower story would be diffrernt if it were a 10 year old girl?

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Just to make this scandal a bit creepier.... lol

Sandusky's Lawyer knocked up a 16 yr old girl.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...ticle-1.977873

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Pegula just gave TBN a big **** you. And I can't be happier.


Poor Harrington is crying on Twitter.
HAHA, good Harrington deserves it.

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Repeating: TPeg should have met Buffalo media -- all of us -- on PSU. You don't want to talk? Fine. But then u turn and talk to TSN? No
Yes Harrington, Yes.

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And here's round 2. Now it's my own school of choice, Syracuse.

Wonderful.

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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...ting-boy-1980s

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