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10-16-2012, 06:02 PM
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Canada should invest in a foreign coach.
They tried, but the CANCON need of the coaching staff got in the way.


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10-16-2012, 06:17 PM
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10-16-2012, 06:25 PM
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It's ugly. The only bright side is that we nearly qualified for the Olympics. In three years' time those U-23rs (Like Cavallini, Hoilett Jr Jr, Alderson) will be U-26rs in the prime of their career. One can only hope that says something about our future potential. To be honest though it was built off of guys like Haber, Edwini-Bonsu, and Saiko, none of which are really the answer to our goal scoring problems.
The problem is that we have the same issue with them. They couldn't beat Cuba, which would've given us a better shot in the semi-finals. Instead, we wound up with powerful Mexico and got knocked out.

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10-16-2012, 06:32 PM
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How can Canada be so good at hockey but at the same time so **** at soccer?
I dont expect you to be one of the best soccer teams, but atleast better then teams like Honduras and stuff.

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10-16-2012, 06:37 PM
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The problem is that we have the same issue with them. They couldn't beat Cuba, which would've given us a better shot in the semi-finals. Instead, we wound up with powerful Mexico and got knocked out.
Ugh, I remember that. ****ing last minute goal too if I remember correctly. Very TFC like.

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10-16-2012, 06:39 PM
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How can Canada be so good at hockey but at the same time so **** at soccer?
I dont expect you to be one of the best soccer teams, but atleast better then teams like Honduras and stuff.
Money. Honduras puts money into their system. Canada is basically a third world country when it comes to football.

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10-16-2012, 06:51 PM
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Honduras has no money, they're the second poorest country in Central America. It's all about want and desire. Every kid, no matter how athletic they are plays football in that country. Because there's nothing else to do they can do it all day. You will eventually find good players in that system. It's no surprise that so many of the best players from the Western hemisphere come from an extremely poor background. They want it more.

I don't think it's ridiculous to say something like, "these players know what it is like to be poor, so they play like this so they don't have to go back to being poor." Some of them I'm sure, are still poor, I can't imagine those who still play in that league make very much money or can count on getting their check every week.

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10-16-2012, 06:53 PM
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10-16-2012, 06:56 PM
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heh... i ran home to watch hilites of the game, not knowing the score. wow, im disappointed.

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10-16-2012, 07:02 PM
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I feel embarrassed to come back here

I'm at a loss for words. I just...don't know what to say

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10-16-2012, 07:03 PM
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Money. Honduras puts money into their system. Canada is basically a third world country when it comes to football.
Yeah I'm sure that's why they can beat Canada 8-1, because of all the millions they pour into football development.

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10-16-2012, 07:06 PM
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Honduras has no money, they're the second poorest country in Central America. It's all about want and desire. Every kid, no matter how athletic they are plays football in that country. Because there's nothing else to do they can do it all day. You will eventually find good players in that system. It's no surprise that so many of the best players from the Western hemisphere come from an extremely poor background. They want it more.

I don't think it's ridiculous to say something like, "these players know what it is like to be poor, so they play like this so they don't have to go back to being poor." Some of them I'm sure, are still poor, I can't imagine those who still play in that league make very much money or can count on getting their check every week.
Exactly.

Many of Brazil's superstars have very humble origins and went through the country's youth system which while being pretty functional and competitive, isn't really up to standards with respect to the European ones. But when people breathe the sport and for many, is their only shot out of the cycle of poverty, then you guarantee they'll give 150% game in and out.

And of course there's immense pressure for the national teams to perform, makes the pressure we Canadians put on our U-20 and Olympic hockey teams look like a kindergarten talent show. People will legitimately scorn at and even assault players they believe to have not taken their international caps seriously.

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10-16-2012, 07:23 PM
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Ugh, I remember that. ****ing last minute goal too if I remember correctly. Very TFC like.


Seriously, I think TFC is ****ing up our national team. Every player that they touch seems to turn into **** for us.

I hadn't watched the full game as I had close out on a condo purchase, which was taking up most of my attention. I likely wouldn't be alive if I had to deal with both instances.

I'm trying to think of ways to describe the lack of fortitude from our boys today.

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10-16-2012, 07:28 PM
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Where do Canada go now? What's the next match?

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10-16-2012, 07:35 PM
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Next competitive match for them will be Gold Cup 2013.

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10-16-2012, 07:38 PM
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Next competitive match for them will be Gold Cup 2013.
2015 lets be honest that Gold Cup means nothing

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US will probably bring a full squad, so Canada would too I'd think. It means something to Canada because you guys need to get your program straightened out.

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10-16-2012, 07:40 PM
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Also Junior Hoilett will be playing for Jamaica tomorrow morning.

At least he had the class to not put out ultimatums like De Guzman. He can go rot in the Dutch national pool for the rest of his career

e: to above post, like yeah its a tournament, but it really doesn't mean anything. Being continental champion in a non-Confed Cup advancement tournament is pretty meh

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10-16-2012, 07:45 PM
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wow, not even Cuba lost this bad, wtf, 8-1 sheeesshhhh

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10-16-2012, 08:15 PM
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I'm still disgusted with the lack of heart that most of the players showed in the second half. I seriously think the only ones playing were Hume, Lucas, and Hutchison, like I mentioned earlier. De Guzman probably fits into this category as well.

The defenders (especially McKenna) disgusted me. Their lack of effort was pathetic and makes me want to puke. If McKenna was sick, he should have never played - he got beat to nearly every ball. Klukowski was absolute garbage, he should be nowhere near a National team's field.

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10-16-2012, 08:21 PM
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Kids in the Canadian soccer are tought to play for fun only. Once they change this loser mentality (starting with the soccer mom's), and teach them to win, then, and only then you will have competitive soccer in Canada.

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10-16-2012, 08:28 PM
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Hoilett actually chose Jamiaca ? Wow !

The hopes of Canadian soccer rests on the Shoulders of the Impact and WhiteCaps academy...

TFC's is only good for teaching players how to conceed in the last mintues...

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10-16-2012, 08:29 PM
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Didn't watch it but that's brutal. Thought they might lose by two at most. Need serious changes.

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Kids in the Canadian soccer are tought to play for fun only. Once they change this loser mentality (starting with the soccer mom's), and teach them to win, then, and only then you will have competitive soccer in Canada.
We have a decent team - I have no ****ing clue what happened today, but we should have made it to the Hex. We had no killer instinct and it cost us. Reminds me of the Habs getting eliminated by the Leafs in the last game of the season after holding the upper hand.

Is Canada a great team? No. But they are a team that shouldn't get blown out 8-1.

I think as soon as Rickett's missed his two beauty chances and Honduras got a gift on the second goal (the neck tackle), most of the team gave up. Horrible attitude and I'll never support that - but this team isnt as bad as they were today. Unfortunately for them (and us), it was the absolute worst day to quit.

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Hoilett actually chose Jamiaca ? Wow !

The hopes of Canadian soccer rests on the Shoulders of the Impact and WhiteCaps academy...

TFC's is only good for teaching players how to conceed in the last mintues...
At this moment, it looks like Jamaica will make it through to the next round. Although an Antigua or Guatemala goal would change that quickly.

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