Wounder how far Galchenyuk may slip ...I see him with more upside than Grigorenko.. In fact he reminds me of Marion Hossa ..Good frame great hands ..pure sniper ..Would look great alongside JT ...Any word on the extent of his injury?
Wounder how far Galchenyuk may slip ...I see him with more upside than Grigorenko.. In fact he reminds me of Marion Hossa ..Good frame great hands ..pure sniper ..Would look great alongside JT ...Any word on the extent of his injury?
We have our "draft" playoffs with games vs. Montreal and Toronto next week...
I was just reading about Galchenyuk in a thread from the prospect section, and there were alot of people "favorably" comparing him to Seguin..... If this guy has half the talent of Seguin, I would be very happy with him.... I think Galchenyuk will be this years Huberdeau, in that he will climb the charts late in the season/offseason and crack the top 3 picks... seeing Galchenyuk climbing the rankings and cracking the upper tier of prospects only helps the Isles... It will either give us a better chance at Murray/Dumba, or give us another high end offensive prospect to choose from... I want to walk away with one of the top 5 prospects in Yakupov, Grigorenko, Galchenyuk, Murray or Dumba.... the second tier for me would be Forsberg, Reinhart and Trouba... For some reason, I am not sold on Forsberg.. I don't want him...
I really wanted Murray, Dumba or Reinhart (if we fall to 6-8), but the more I hear about Galchenyuk, he would have to be a serious consideration.
Dumba no question. He has that it factor like Tavares and also has a lot of pride which some of the Isles could use. Seems like his gameplay is similar to PK Subban. Huge pickup if he is on the board when they select.
Dumba no question. He has that it factor like Tavares and also has a lot of pride which some of the Isles could use. Seems like his gameplay is similar to PK Subban. Huge pickup if he is on the board when they select.
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Dumba just deems to Fit....
He has that same edge to him as Tavares Hamonic and Martin
I feel like Reinhert is the biggest project out of the defenseman in the top 10. Supposedly he has confidence issues according to some scouts which is a huge flaw no matter what size you are. Murray would definitely be my second choice if Dumba wasn't there. Lets see what happens, Isles could end up with the 1st pick overall and we could be having an entirely different conversation altogether.
I feel like Reinhert is the biggest project out of the defenseman in the top 10. Supposedly he has confidence issues according to some scouts which is a huge flaw no matter what size you are. Murray would definitely be my second choice if Dumba wasn't there. Lets see what happens, Isles could end up with the 1st pick overall and we could be having an entirely different conversation altogether.
Dumba would be the perfect fit for us definitely. I feel the guy will be a special player. Just a good all around defenseman who does everything.
Whomever we choose I hope is not on the roster come opening night.
There are a lot of perfect fits for the Islanders. The team could draft almost any player at the top end of the draft and he would slot right in...D, C, RW, LW...all except a goalie. Dumba, Murray, Grigs, Yakupov, Galchunyuk, Forsberg...all fill needs. I realize there are A LOT of guys who really want a D-man in the first round. Their arguments have merit. However, we need forwards badly, too. As long as the team does not go off the board with a selection, they really will be filling a hole.
Last edited by frankieboy: 03-16-2012 at 07:43 AM.
I think you have to go BPA. I like Dumba and would be pleased if he were our pick on draft day, but if we are pick 3 or 4 and Galchenyuk is there(which seems very likely) he should be the pick. There is no doubt in my mind that with Yakupov and Grigorenko off the board, Galchenyuk becomes the BPA. Murray and Dumba are both great defensive prospects, but I don't think they match AG's potential.
I know our blue-line is weak, but add in a Wideman and de Haan and all of a sudden things don't look so bad. Maybe look into dealing Grabner to add another.
Galchenyuk will be a beast in the NHL. Plus adding a center of his caliber would allow us to slide Strome to the wing and play him with Tavares and Moulson. You then give Bailey one more year of 2nd line minutes and if he doesn't impress, you promote Galchenyuk if he appears ready.
I think you have to go BPA. I like Dumba and would be pleased if he were our pick on draft day, but if we are pick 3 or 4 and Galchenyuk is there(which seems very likely) he should be the pick. There is no doubt in my mind that with Yakupov and Grigorenko off the board, Galchenyuk becomes the BPA. Murray and Dumba are both great defensive prospects, but I don't think they match AG's potential.
I know our blue-line is weak, but add in a Wideman and de Haan and all of a sudden things don't look so bad. Maybe look into dealing Grabner to add another.
Galchenyuk will be a beast in the NHL. Plus adding a center of his caliber would allow us to slide Strome to the wing and play him with Tavares and Moulson. You then give Bailey one more year of 2nd line minutes and if he doesn't impress, you promote Galchenyuk if he appears ready.
I think that Galchenyuk at #3 after Yak or Grigs would be a very solid pick for the Islanders. As has been said, the Isles need help everywhere and everyone of the top 7 players (including Murray, Dumba, Trouba & Forsberg) would be fine with me.
Should we are picking top 7, we're getting a good player one way or the other just by sticking to the concensus top 7.
But the Isles don't always go that route...
At this point, I'm already getting a little more interested in some of the other rounds. Don't really know about the overall depth in this draft, but I am seeing a number of overaged Europeans listed in the rankings, whether they are in Europe or are in North America.
I don't know if others have noticed this, but we kinda have a trend of taking overagers in later rounds, which isn't a problem unless the team has really missed the boat on a guy, like with DeHart. Obviously, Martin was a real good one and there's still some curiosity with respect to Koskinen, Kichton and Persson (the latter two would have to be signed this summer, I believe).
There should be a few of interest in this upcoming draft. I'd be very interested in guys like Frk, Pearson, Bozon, and obviously Thrower in round two. As of round three, guys like Severson, McCabe, Gavrus, Iafrate, Jankowski, Beran, Kerdiles, Volek, maybe even Hudon or Hyka (should one be willing to gamble on the size issue) could be interesting.
That's just North American rankings. And these are all PRE-U18, whereafter lots of kids tend to rise a bit.
Last edited by Chapin Landvogt: 03-16-2012 at 09:11 AM.
So long as the isles don't take a goalie with a high pick,I'm not gonna complain.Isles need more top 4 talent on their defense and high end skill among their forwards.
As for European picks in later rounds, I'm definitely curious about Henrik Samuelsson (playing in Edmonton now), Pokka, Teravainen, Bertschy, Zerressen, and Australian Nathan Walker (playing in the Czech Republic).
Some others who should be of interest very late could be Swede Ponthus Westerholm, Danes Meyer and Spelling as well as Hungarian Janos Hari and Austrian Konstantin Komarek, although these might be the types of kids that teams don't waste a pick on, but rather sign as UFAs when they're 20-24.
I know a couple of 20 year olds I'd love to see the Isles invite to their prospect camps...
So long as the isles don't take a goalie with a high pick,I'm not gonna complain.Isles need more top 4 talent on their defense and high end skill among their forwards.
I don't think they will. They have three very legitimate goalies who are close to the show now.
There aren't even any real studs in this draft anyway... And don't let anyone tell you Malcolm Subban is one.
The guy loses any credibility suggesting Subban to the NYI.If Poulin,Nilson and Koskinen were all ****ing the bed , all major disappointments ,then a case could be made that the isles need to draft a goalie prospect.But, they're all having strong seasons.
What I'd like to know is, with the isles needing a top 4 blueliner and some scouts saying Murray is nhl ready , do the isles take Murray? Do they hedge their bets in case they can't sign or trade for a quality.top 4 upgrade?
Let Murray, De Haan and a 2nd tier ufa signing,fight it out for the #4 spot on the defense?
I don't see any goalies going in the top-10 for a long time. Teams have learned that a) goalies are hard to predict; b) goalies can be found later in the draft; and c) prospect goalies just don't have that much value.
Price in 2005 was the last to go top-10. The only other to go top-25 since then was Campbell, and you know Dallas is regretting passing on Fowler, Gormley, etc.
The guy loses any credibility suggesting Subban to the NYI.If Poulin,Nilson and Koskinen were all ****ing the bed , all major disappointments ,then a case could be made that the isles need to draft a goalie prospect.But, they're all having strong seasons.
What I'd like to know is, with the isles needing a top 4 blueliner and some scouts saying Murray is nhl ready , do the isles take Murray? Do they hedge their bets in case they can't sign or trade for a quality.top 4 upgrade?
Let Murray, De Haan and a 2nd tier ufa signing,fight it out for the #4 spot on the defense?
I don't think so...I think Snow showed last year by taking Strome over Courturier, who was definitely closer to NHL ready, that he is thinking long-term when he makes his picks.
I guess that is the one advantage of having an owner who will never fire the GM, he can afford to think long-term when drafting.
What I'd like to know is, with the isles needing a top 4 blueliner and some scouts saying Murray is nhl ready , do the isles take Murray? Do they hedge their bets in case they can't sign or trade for a quality.top 4 upgrade?
I am strongly of the opinion that whoever takes Murray will likely have him in their line-up next season. 'Maturity' and 'readiness' are things folks seem to think he has in spades.
Since 2007, we've only taken one Dman in the first round, and he came after Tavares in the same draft. The team moved no less than four assets to get him, three being pretty valuable, and ironically took him ahead of another Dman who was not only rated higher than him by every agency, but who has already played 3 full NHL seasons and presently plays solid NHL hockey in all three zones with continued offensive upside. Kulikov would be having a career year were it not for his first injury issues.
Be that as it may, we've gotten Okposo, Bailey, Tavares, Niederreiter, Nelson and Strome in the first round since 2007.
There's a definite trend to be seen there. Is that now enough up front, especially in light of no less than 5 other later rounders who are pushing big for NHL roles?
I strongly felt last summer that if Larsson was gone, this team was going forward one way or the other.
