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11-08-2011, 09:20 PM
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JM blaming his young players.

**** YOU MARTIN

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11-08-2011, 09:21 PM
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JM blaming his young players.

**** YOU MARTIN
Typical him

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11-08-2011, 09:21 PM
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1 - More like we end up at #2-4. Even at #2-4 we're still not getting Yakupov.
Lol

9 or 10 in the standing. IMO the Habs will make the PO

Markov will play something like 60 games the season is far from over.

Fans are just very sensitive after a lost

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11-08-2011, 09:22 PM
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Haha, okay.

If you think Subban was good, that's cool. Your opinion, brah. No hard feelings, I just think he's, well, basically sucked this year. At least we both agree on Eller.
Overall I think Subban has had a disappointing year but I thought he looked good tonight

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Haha, okay.

If you think Subban was good, that's cool. Your opinion, brah. No hard feelings, I just think he's, well, basically sucked this year. At least we both agree on Eller.
Your 'haha, lulz, ok whatevs' schtick is getting tired. You can bring examples to the table if you would like to make a point, which would be great because this is all subjective and we probably saw different things, but your condescension has no place in an intelligent conversation. So if you're excusing yourself from one, we can understand why.

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11-08-2011, 09:22 PM
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Haha, okay.

If you think Subban was good, that's cool. Your opinion, brah. No hard feelings, I just think he's, well, basically sucked this year. At least we both agree on Eller.
You're on your own tonight. Subban was one of our better Dman tonight. He and Gorges played well.
Weber had his worst game this year. I don't blame him though, being switched from forward to defense throughout a game can't be easy.
PK had one of his better games, you have no reason to criticize him tonight.

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11-08-2011, 09:22 PM
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Problem is you say Subban plays mediocre every game, and often prop up how you believe Weber was the better prospect when they we're in junior. Nothing against you or your opinion, clearly Subban *can* deliver more. It's probably why your getting quoted often when people feel the need to defend him though.

One thing that can't be denied is he has been pretty good defensively since his early blunders this season, and it seems his offensive game is suffering greatly from the lack of confidence the coaching staff is putting in him and the fact he plays 2nd PP wave and doesn't have Wisnieski cycling the puck and setting him up. It's obvious now that Subban is the weapon, no one thinks twice when Diaz has the puck.
No, I haven't. I'll call Subban out when he plays poorly. I know that Subban is facing tougher guys than Weber and playing a lot more minutes. It's obvious. Doesn't mean he's playing well.

I was praising Subban for how good he was for about a 5-6 game stretch a few games ago. But he was terrible last game and he was mediocre this game, in my opinion. My opinion. Everyone has different opinions. He tries to do way too much and he over plays the puck way too much because of it. But yes, thankfully, his defensive game has stayed the same since his hot 5-6 game stretch. It's just that he's trying to do too much again with the puck and it causes too many problems. And his shot is annoying as anything because of how obvious he makes it.

And yes, I will admit I thought Weber had a good chance to be as good as Subban. Maybe even better all-around, but that was just from watching Subban a lot since I saw a lot of Bulls games. He was way too flashy and would make bad mistakes all the time. I didn't get to see Weber as much, but when I did he was more composed and smarter with the puck. But, like I said, that was probably because he had to make good decisions where Subban had the pure talent to rebound.

I quickly realized after he moved on from the OHL that it was likely because he was bored with the weak competition. And I admitted that I was wrong.

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11-08-2011, 09:22 PM
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JM blaming his young players.

**** YOU MARTIN
He also defended using Pleks as the PP quaterback.

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11-08-2011, 09:22 PM
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PP and Khabibulin, story of the game. Would have liked a better effort that's for sure but not the problem tonight.
Two things:

1- If the scoring chances number don't come out with the Habs outchancing the Oilers at least 2-to-1, I'll be shocked. What more do you want?

2- the Habs need less effort, not more; they're 0-3-1 at least in home games where they dominate play. Sucking works much better for them, they should never have ditched that strategy.

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11-08-2011, 09:23 PM
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I didn't get to watch the game but how were the Nokelainen and Blunden line? They have been solid the last few games since together. Not offensively but overall shutdown in the few mins they get a game.
Noke played seven minutes Blunden played 44 seconds. Emelin had four good hits in the first period then got benched. Too physical.

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11-08-2011, 09:23 PM
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Team played well vs Rags and they played well tonight. Do not worry they will finish somewhere between 5-9 as expected.

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Your 'haha, lulz, ok whatevs' schtick is getting tired. You can bring examples to the table if you would like to make a point, which would be great because this is all subjective and we probably saw different things, but your condescension has no place in an intelligent conversation. So if you're excusing yourself from one, we can understand why.
Then don't bother talking to me. Simple as that.

I pointed out plenty of stuff in the GDT. I don't need to write it over and over.

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11-08-2011, 09:23 PM
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Precisely. Cammy, Cole, Gionta, MaxPac (unproven, but scoring at almost a 40G pace) are all finishers. You can include AK but he wasn't playing.
People are just doing their usual reactionary comments.
We completely outplayed Edmonton, Khabi deserved every star tonight, but hey, let's just rage out on our team.
I'm sorry but aside from a fluky 48 goal season in 05-06, Gionta never hit 30 again... that is not a natural goal scorer. Cammy's hit 30 twice so that's a little bit better...

AK's highest is 26.. not a natural goal scorer
MaxPac's highest is 14...
Cole hit 30 once.

Honestly, no one in this team is a consistent 30 goal scorer...

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11-08-2011, 09:23 PM
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Weber played half the game at forward. I hate that he's gets thrown around like that, must kill his confidence.

Either way, our only truly consistent defenseman is Gorges. Everyone else gives me a headache at sometime or another.
he seems to not get respected much

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JM blaming his young players.

**** YOU MARTIN
Where/when/how did he blame his players???

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@natey

I am also on the side that Subban played extremely well tonight.

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i don't get it

2 things seem to happen

We win when

we get out played

shots are like 18-41 for the another team


but when we lose

we out play the other team
shots like are 30-14
and we get a lot of chances


man what did the team do to get this luck
I disagree. Seems to me the trend is more like losing when we score 2 goals or less.

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9 or 10 in the standing. IMO the Habs will make the PO

Markov will play something like 60 games the season is far from over.

Fans are just very sensitive after a lost
And you know that how? He was also supposed to be ready to go from training camp. The guy is a hit away from being out again once he comes back

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11-08-2011, 09:24 PM
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Overall I think Subban has had a disappointing year but I thought he looked good tonight
Same here. When it comes to Subban, if he makes a mistake.. it's going to be a glaring mistake.. if he makes a great move.. its going to be pretty nice.

I do wish he'd stop thinking too much, and commit to easier plays and not be so fancy.

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11-08-2011, 09:24 PM
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We're in serious trouble if we can't keep the record respectable till Markov comes back. Then we gotta hope he can stay healthy.

This season has been annoying as **** so far.

And watching Darche play hockey is just exhausting.

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JM blaming his young players.

**** YOU MARTIN
What he does best is scuttle young talent. Send Martin back to Russia!!

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You're on your own tonight. Subban was one of our better Dman tonight. He and Gorges played well.
Weber had his worst game this year. I don't blame him though, being switched from forward to defense throughout a game can't be easy.
PK had one of his better games, you have no reason to criticize him tonight.
I understand not having a whole lot of players to work with....but using Weber from d-man to forward when he was one of your best regular d-man is plain stupid. As a matter of fact, Weber might have played his worst game after he was switched back to D......Double shifts forwards, use 7 d-men if you want to.....but keep the D'S on D's for heaven's sake....

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What the question should be is how come people are still raging at Martin when we allowed so little shots and dominated the opposition so much.
We allowed very few chances, had plenty coming our way, and yet, it's Martin.

Not sure if it's always been like that, but I feel a lot of fans in Mtl have become so incredibly stupid.
well Montreal's 25th ranked PP in which he refuses to change is playing a huge factor in these losses. You cant just absolve him of blame either.

this is one of the worst teams in the league. Everyone is to blame.

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I am also on the side that Subban played extremely well tonight.
i thought subban and patches played well.

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Where/when/how did he blame his players???
During his press conference. He specifically said it's having difficulties because they have a lot of young players, and that Plekanec on the point is a good option for him and he likes his work there.

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