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View Poll Results: What would you rather recieve in 2005
The Rangers win the Stanley Cup 29 58.00%
The Rangers draft Crosby #1 Overall 20 40.00%
Undecided 1 2.00%
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09-09-2004, 05:09 PM
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Which would you rather recieve

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09-09-2004, 05:12 PM
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I'd take Crosby because he's potentially the centerpiece to have more than a few cups.

I'm greedy. I think Crosby could lead to cups but I don't see a cup leading to Crosby.

Of course it's hypothetical.

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09-09-2004, 05:16 PM
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Crosby , no quetion abot it that kid will be a franchise center for years and years down the road well hopefully atleast. Crosby would be great for NYR and i really do hope for it.

my vote went to crosby

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09-09-2004, 05:23 PM
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Stanley Cup! geez, Crosby is not gonna be a sure superstar!

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Stanley Cup if...

it's won with this roster. That means the kids are doing pretty well and will hopefully only improve in the following seasons.

But of course I doubt that this roster can make it to the playoffs, let alone the Stanley Cup.

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09-09-2004, 05:27 PM
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Stanley Cup! geez, Crosby is not gonna be a sure superstar!
well neither is any prospect but the last couple years the #1 overalls have been proving them selves, and if u have not looked at crosby's #'s now, then take a look i think the kid will have a very solid carreer, to say a stanley cup we would all love to win one but would never happen, so i would rather have crosby

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09-09-2004, 05:29 PM
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it's won with this roster. That means the kids are doing pretty well and will hopefully only improve in the following seasons.

But of course I doubt that this roster can make it to the playoffs, let alone the Stanley Cup.
Ditto, I'd would die if this team made it into the playoffs and won a game, let alone win a cup.

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09-09-2004, 05:54 PM
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Stanley Cup.

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09-09-2004, 05:56 PM
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Cup please.

If this roster was good enough to win the Cup, than you KNOW there's more on the way when they're in their prime...

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09-09-2004, 06:22 PM
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If you voted for Crosby your an idiot. I mean a cup is a cup. If we get Crosby we are guaranteed nothing. Plus if we were to win a cup with our current roster it would mean we would have several young stars and we wouldn't need Crosby...

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09-09-2004, 06:26 PM
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Cup please.

If this roster was good enough to win the Cup, than you KNOW there's more on the way when they're in their prime...
ummmmm..... its called sarcasm, i dont think any body expects a cup, come on man, seriously. you didnt think they were serious they said they would like to win a cup, but im sure they all know its unrealistic .

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09-09-2004, 06:27 PM
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a shot at the cup is unrealistic an shouldntt even be an option thats why i chose crosby, who wouldnt love to win the cup, i know i would but its not even in the books, for $hits and giggles

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a shot at the cup is unrealistic an shouldntt even be an option thats why i chose crosby, who wouldnt love to win the cup, i know i would but its not even in the books, for $hits and giggles
Do you even understand the concept of the poll?

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09-09-2004, 06:40 PM
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If you voted for Crosby your an idiot. I mean a cup is a cup. If we get Crosby we are guaranteed nothing. Plus if we were to win a cup with our current roster it would mean we would have several young stars and we wouldn't need Crosby...
OR you could argue that the roster could be even better with Crosby.

And winning the cup doesn't necessarily mean that you have "Several young stars" it could very well mean Poti, Nylander, Holik and Jagr play like Greek God's.

The question also never said anything about this current roster winning it all {that's something even else implied themselves}.

It's actually not quite as black and white as you want to make it my friend.

We could win a cup thanks to the vets and then spend the next 15 years in misery. OR we could get Crosby, not win it this year but stand a chance to win it for the next 15.

It all comes down if your gambling man. Would you be okay with one cup and potentially little else, or would you want to try for more but not have the gurantee of one.

So maybe those who voted for Crosby aren't idiots, maybe they gave it a bit more thought than you did and decided to try for a different approach.

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09-09-2004, 06:43 PM
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But it's a freaking CUP!!! And we're the freaking Rangers, knowing or luck Crosby will get injured or be a huge dissapointment

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09-09-2004, 07:05 PM
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i don't think he does

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But it's a freaking CUP!!! And we're the freaking Rangers, knowing or luck Crosby will get injured or be a huge dissapointment

You're right it is, and the point of any organization is to win it. But the point of any team is also to constantly be capable of winning it.

The question itself is incredibly stacked as it is, so you've got to think outside of the box of "he might be a huge disappointment". I mean if we've going to suspend reality about this team being a contender next season than we also have to balance it by assuming Crosby will be the next one {as is with any hypothetical situation}.

In which case it becomes very easy to decide that Crosby coupled with the depth this team is trying to build could be a winner for the long haul.

Winning the cup is the pinnacle of the NHL but at what cost? That's one reason why the question is only hypothetical.

But suspending reality for a second, i'd have to say i'd rather build a team and take my chances winning three or four cups {which this team would have the money to do if they ever got a team together who could pull it off} than go for the cheap and easy one with Nylander skating around the ice holding a cup followed by another 8 years of misery.

I personally choose to take the risk. I'd want a shot at a dynasty. If it means another long year, than so be it. The return is worth the loss.

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09-09-2004, 07:14 PM
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Why do you want Crosby? To lead the franchise to the promise land. To lead to a cup. If its "corsby who will improve our chances for a cup" or "winning it all". Ill take winning, this is a stupid question.

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y'all ain't idiots..

just friggin' nuts.

I think your post, Edge, outlines the silliness of the poll. Clearly if this organization somehow won a Cup with its current roster, it is a team that's built to compete for the next 15 years, most likely. But it's just so unrealistic that that would happen. Perhaps the better question is would you sacrafice a ton of youth for a legitimate shot at a Cup vs. Crosby, and I'm sure that would be received with a resounding NO.

Yeah this team would be better with Crosby down the road, especially if it was good enough to win a Cup, but it's a circular reference that cannot be solved and thus makes little logical sense.

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Why do you want Crosby? To lead the franchise to the promise land. To lead to a cup. If its "corsby who will improve our chances for a cup" or "winning it all". Ill take winning, this is a stupid question.
Why do I want Crosby? Because as I said in another post I think he's the best prospect since Mario himself.

Why? Because in this particular hypothetical situation I think he'd be enough to build around to win more than one cup.

Because Winning at any cost isn't always winning.

It's like walking into a Casino and having someone hand you 100 bucks. You could walk out that door have $100 and go spend it on whatever you want. Or you can take that $100 bucks gamble with and maybe walk home with a small fortune.

It all depends on what you want. With our current crop of guys and Crosby, I'd like my chances.

Are you guranteed anything? Nope, but as I said i'd like my chances for winning 3 or 4 cups and having a team that will be competitive and profitable far longer.

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09-09-2004, 07:23 PM
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just friggin' nuts.

I think your post, Edge, outlines the silliness of the poll. Clearly if this organization somehow won a Cup with its current roster, it is a team that's built to compete for the next 15 years, most likely. But it's just so unrealistic that that would happen. Perhaps the better question is would you sacrafice a ton of youth for a legitimate shot at a Cup vs. Crosby, and I'm sure that would be received with a resounding NO.

Yeah this team would be better with Crosby down the road, especially if it was good enough to win a Cup, but it's a circular reference that cannot be solved and thus makes little logical sense.
I agree with everything you just said save the point about being able to compete for 15 years. For the reasons I stated before about Jagr, Nylander, Holik and company.

The team has a nice cupboard right now, but not enough to be a challanger for the next 15 years and we all know Jagr and co. aren't gonna last that long. However a young team with a young centerpiece has a longer shot.

But other than that I agree with you.

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09-09-2004, 07:58 PM
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I voted Stanley Cup...

as inticing as crosby would be, in the words of jets head coach herm edwards...

"YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAMES!"


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I dont think there is a right or wrong answer really.

For my pick I think I can win more games and more cups having Crosby as the centerpiece of my stock of players for the next 15 years than I would with a one and done run that would be winning the cup next year.

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I voted for Cup but I like one and the other.

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I dont think there is a right or wrong answer really.

For my pick I think I can win more games and more cups having Crosby as the centerpiece of my stock of players for the next 15 years than I would with a one and done run that would be winning the cup next year.
I agree

I voted for the cup. I would love to have crosby though picking him doesn't mean he'll lead us to cups. As of now I would rather have the cup but sometimes you just don't get what you want. I know we're not gonna get the cup anytime soon, even if we get crosby, but he sure will help

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