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11-10-2011, 01:18 AM
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ANA and Edm

Taking a look at both teams I see a team that is young but could use a big goal scorer for the 2nd line for now and in the future.

ANA needs more fwd depth as I see them having a problem in 2 yrs when their older players retire.

ANA
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PRV
Omark

EDM
Ryan
2nd

Behind Getz and Perry a line of PRV, Gagner, Omark would actually look really good and allow them to develop as a line.

With Smyth, Horc here there is no room for these players.

Ryan would give the Oilers a very big body that they could use in their top 6 for now and for the long term.

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Don't think they would do this for Ryan straight up from a Ducks perspective, much less with a second round pick. Just my opinion, if the Oilers want Ryan they have to talk one of their untouchables i.e. Eberle is where that discussion would start.

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If Anaheim is going to break up the RPG line, you're going to have to send them a proven top 6 centre as they have wing depth up the wazoo in the minors. Paarjarvi is good, and so is Omark, but the conversation starts with Eberle or RNH and goes from there if you even want them to add. Ryan is a proven winger with awesome stats.

And whhhyyyy does Edmonton need more scoring wingers?


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Ryan actually doesn't have a Cup.

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Ryan actually doesn't have a Cup.
My bad, I just noticed that he was drafted in 2006. Will correct.

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11-10-2011, 01:52 AM
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I don't think you get such a young perennial 30+ goal scorer for that package.

I don't think Omark really has any value anywhere, Paajarvi is a nice piece but not exactly proven and Gagner has struggled early on coming off injury.

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11-10-2011, 02:06 AM
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want Ryan, start with Eberle, Hall or RNH, then add.

Oil fans will flame me, but that's the reality, Ryan was a no.2 overall pick himself you know?

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What about something simpler?

Maybe something around Gagner for Sbisa?

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11-10-2011, 02:19 AM
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My bad, I just noticed that he was drafted in 2006. Will correct.
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What about something simpler?

Maybe something around Gagner for Sbisa?
Anaheim can't afford to lose Sbisa right now.

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Anaheim can't afford to lose Sbisa right now.
Even if the Oilers were to send back a defenseman like Peckham too?

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I don't know enough about Peckham to answer that.

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What do you have that would be worthwhile to another team in trade?

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11-10-2011, 03:27 AM
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want Ryan, start with Eberle, Hall or RNH, then add.

Oil fans will flame me, but that's the reality, Ryan was a no.2 overall pick himself you know?
That's strange considering how any one of those three players is better than Bobby Ryan (much younger too), the add would have to come from the other side.

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That's strange considering how any one of those three players is better than Bobby Ryan (much younger too), the add would have to come from the other side.
What? None of them are better than him.

Check back here when any of them post 3 straight 30 goal seasons maybe?

Oh wait I get it, Ryan's slow start=he sucks, Oilers good start=their all better.

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Gagner - C Value
Omark - D Value
PRV - B- Value

Ryan - A Value.


Noone is dumb enough to take those players for Ryan. Eberle + or Hall + . I'm guessing Nugent is untouchable.

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I would do
Gagner + Peckham
for
Sbisa + Rakell

add picks/prospects to even it out but something around this I would look at.

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Taking a look at both teams I see a team that is young but could use a big goal scorer for the 2nd line for now and in the future.

ANA needs more fwd depth as I see them having a problem in 2 yrs when their older players retire.

ANA
Gagner
PRV
Omark

EDM
Ryan
2nd

Behind Getz and Perry a line of PRV, Gagner, Omark would actually look really good and allow them to develop as a line.

With Smyth, Horc here there is no room for these players.

Ryan would give the Oilers a very big body that they could use in their top 6 for now and for the long term.
LOL

You aren't getting Ryan for that kind of cheap offer.

Think Eberle +

I love Oilers fans trade proposals

When the deal would obviously require MPS, they offer up Omark
When the deal would obviously require Eberle, they offer up MPS
When the deal would obviously require Hall, they offer Gagner, Omark, 2nd and maybe MPS

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That's strange considering how any one of those three players is better than Bobby Ryan (much younger too), the add would have to come from the other side.
Bobby Ryan is better than those three. The add wouldn't be a lot, because of potential etc., but Edmonton would need to add. Ryan is a far better player than most give him credit for, do remember he was a number two overall pick behind only Sidney Crosby, and has consistently put up impressive numbers over the past 3 years.

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Taking a look at both teams I see a team that is young but could use a big goal scorer for the 2nd line for now and in the future.

ANA needs more fwd depth as I see them having a problem in 2 yrs when their older players retire.

ANA
Gagner
PRV
Omark

EDM
Ryan
2nd

Behind Getz and Perry a line of PRV, Gagner, Omark would actually look really good and allow them to develop as a line.

With Smyth, Horc here there is no room for these players.

Ryan would give the Oilers a very big body that they could use in their top 6 for now and for the long term.

oiler do it on the spot--Ducks would say and rightly so, that Hall or RNH for Ryan would be fair

I am an oiler fan and i would love to see Ryan as an oiler--it would cost

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11-10-2011, 09:19 AM
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I can't stand the Ducks, but there is less than zero chance of the OP happening. Ryan, as another poster mentioned went 2nd overall, and would have been first had he not been in the same draft year as the BEST player in the world.

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That's strange considering how any one of those three players is better than Bobby Ryan (much younger too), the add would have to come from the other side.
Like has been said by others, none of those three players are better than a 30 goal big power forward. Certainly not RNH, not now. Could he be better one day? Sure, maybe. But you really think a guy that's played less than 20 NHL gasmes is better than a consistent 30 goal power forward? Homerism at its finest.

That would be like me, as a Sens fan, saying that Rundblad (as much as I love him and as well as he is doing) is better than Keith or Doughty. That would be assanine. Same can be said for you saying that RNH is better than Ryan (and to only a slightly lesser extent Eberle and Hall). When any one of them puts up consistent numbers better than Ryan, then you can make that claim.

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want Ryan, start with Eberle, Hall or RNH, then add.

Oil fans will flame me, but that's the reality, Ryan was a no.2 overall pick himself you know?
I have to agree and I'm an Oil fan. Outside of a guy like Ryan wanting out or ANA completely blowing it up, you just don't get him unless you are giving top end players back.

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want Ryan, start with Eberle, Hall or RNH, then add.

Oil fans will flame me, but that's the reality, Ryan was a no.2 overall pick himself you know?
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Gagner - C Value
Omark - D Value
PRV - B- Value

Ryan - A Value.


Noone is dumb enough to take those players for Ryan. Eberle + or Hall + . I'm guessing Nugent is untouchable.
Hall and Nugent-Hopkins will both be better than Bobby Ryan. Both way ahead of his development at the their prospective ages.

Besides. The Oilers already have Eberle, and Hemsky playing RW....not enough minutes to go around.

Definitely seeing a trend with both of these rookie users.....

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I'm a huge MPS fan and would love to see him on the Ducks. I would love to see him and Etem on a line together next year. I just don't think the value is here in the deal

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I would do
Gagner + Peckham
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Sbisa + Rakell

add picks/prospects to even it out but something around this I would look at.
That's almost exactly what I was thinking.

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