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Fedorov, Mogilny or Bure

View Poll Results: Which Russian would you pick if you could only choose one?
Sergei Federov: All around player, playmaker, defensively sound 58 77.33%
Pavel Bure: Russian Rocket, pure explosion and goal-scoring threat 13 17.33%
Alexander Mogilny: Not just a goal scoring winger, but playmaker also. 4 5.33%
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11-13-2011, 06:19 PM
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"goals per game" finishes:

Bure: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th.
Mogilny: 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th

Disclaimer: The following are skewed by the fact that Bure didn't play after his prime, while Mogilny did, but the difference is large:
Bure = 6th highest career regular season GPG; 8th highest career playoff GPG
Mogilny = 37th highest career regular season GPG; 136th highest career playoff GPG


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11-13-2011, 06:51 PM
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"goals per game" finishes:

Bure: 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 6th, 7th.
Mogilny: 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th

Disclaimer: The following are skewed by the fact that Bure didn't play after his prime, while Mogilny did, but the difference is large:
Bure = 6th highest career regular season GPG; 8th highest career playoff GPG
Mogilny = 37th highest career regular season GPG; 136th highest career playoff GPG
All I am saying is that Mogilny could put the puck in the net as good as BUre .
could. I think I have a point here.

Even though Bure had his carreer ended early by injury, Mogilny was hampered by injuries worse than Bure. Mogilny always had a nagging injury. He never once in 16yrs played 80 games. Bure had 3 82gp(+) seasons.

I know when he was here in Toronto his hip was shot and he scored 30+ goals. I don't think anyone ever understood how bad it actually was. This guy fell on his butt and missed a bunch of time. His hip was done, and I am thinking that it had to be a longterm injury.

Bure might have the edge but it's like debating a 50 goal scorer v. a 48 goal scorer. they are both the same level of dangerous and thats what I see. I still say I pick Mogilny at the draft.

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FWIW:

Sergei Federov career totals:

1248GP 483G 696A 1179P 839 PIM
183Playoffs 52G 124A 176P 133PIM

Awards
Year League Award
1993-94 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy
1993-94 NHL Frank J. Selke Trophy
1993-94 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy
1995-96 NHL Frank J. Selke Trophy


Alexander Mogilny:
990GP 473G 559A 1032P 432PIM
124Playoffs 39G 47A 86P 58PIM
Award
2002-03 NHL Lady Byng Memorial Trophy

Pavel Bure:
702GP 437G 342A 779P 484PIM
64Playoffs 35G 35A 70P 74PIM

Awards
Year League Award
1991-92 NHL Calder Memorial Trophy
1999-00 NHL Maurice "Rocket" Richard Trophy
2000-01 NHL Maurice "Rocket" Richard Trophy
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we all would. but none of these three guys "always brought his best."
Bure certainly did more frequently than the other two...

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I consider federov one of the most overrated players of his time. Even Red Wing fans complained about his underachieving for at least the first half of his career. And as soon as he retired he was suddenly the greatest.

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I consider federov one of the most overrated players of his time. Even Red Wing fans complained about his underachieving for at least the first half of his career. And as soon as he retired he was suddenly the greatest.
His regular season play because he didnt always bring his A game. He brought his A game in 94 and had one of the best seasons of any player in along time.

He ALWAYS brought it in the playoffs and no wings fan will tell you different

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His regular season play because he didnt always bring his A game. He brought his A game in 94 and had one of the best seasons of any player in along time.

He ALWAYS brought it in the playoffs and no wings fan will tell you different
Yeah and if he had always brought his A game while drawing his A salary, he would have gone down as one of the all-time greats instead of a guy who mailed it in with a series of 60 odd point seasons in his prime.

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I consider federov one of the most overrated players of his time. Even Red Wing fans complained about his underachieving for at least the first half of his career. And as soon as he retired he was suddenly the greatest.
If you consider Fedorov one of the most overrated, Bure must top your list, right?

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11-15-2011, 08:44 PM
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you gotta love these seasons from fedorov

199899 77 26+37 63
199900 68 27+35 62
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Yeah and if he had always brought his A game while drawing his A salary, he would have gone down as one of the all-time greats instead of a guy who mailed it in with a series of 60 odd point seasons in his prime.
Fun fact, Fedorov was making $2M/yr those seasons (and the '03 season as well) when guys like Holik, Weight, Leclair, etc... were signing for $8-9M+






Yes he was paid $28M in '98 but that's not the point I'm making here. Even though he did donate $2M to a children's hospital or something in '98.

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I think I'd have to take Fedorov, but I'm one of those guys who values really good centres over excellent wingers 9 times out of 10.

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Fedorov. The all around best hockey player out of the three.

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