As a Spitfires STH who had the pleasure of watching Hall lead us to the promised land, Hall falls down a lot for a guy with all his talent. It's not being critical. It's just an obvious observation. Not sure why people think it's some sort of jab. It's an odd quirk for the young man. The important things are that he may fall down a lot but he always gets up and eventually makes a big play.
To put it in perspective. He's 20 years old. Last season Eberle was a 20 year old rookie. So how would you be looking at Paajarvi if he had spent another year in Sweden and then came over with Lander this season? He likely would have been sent to the minors and we wouldn't have thought much of it....because he'd still be all new and shiny.
He has just been a little rushed. He came keep a job in the NHL because he plays a responsible game...but he's not ready for an offensive role yet. That's fine. It's not like he was a top 3 pick. Look at Brayden Schenn. He went 5th overall in Paajarvi's draft year. He spent an extra year in junior and is currently in the AHL. No one is worried about him not reaching his ceiling.
Rushed like you mentioned it is probably the best way to put it. Hopefully he has a couple more yrs here and we get to see what the Oilers have here in Paajarvi.
I agree. I don't like PRV as the puck-carrier on his line. He lacks the creativity to do that effectively.
Let Hemsky carry the puck in, and allow Magnus to start using his size and speed to get in a scoring position. As opposed to now, where he uses it to skate through the neutral zone and shoot a pillow-soft wrister into the goalie's chest.
He has MPS and Gagner who are struggling massively, but is he willing to change up his "grinder-riffic" line pairings and take a risk with MPS/Gagner playing more offensive roles?
It could buoy their confidence, but it could also bleed some extra goals against.
I know what I'd pick, but I'm not making the call.
If they're going to continue to put MPS with Belanger/Jones/Petrell/etc. then send him down. He's better off in the AHL, re-teaming with Omark, than here in that case.
Not an Oiler fan, Flames fan and season ticket holder....
but I love what the Oilers are doing with their youth.
Anyway, just wanted to comment that your post was very well said, and I think sums things up perfectly.
I can relate to Hall and his falling. When a guy goes balls to the wall he is bound to fall. I think he has to choose his spots better to throw off d-men. Lull them to sleep and then flash.
Well, people can say he isn't getting confidence up here if he is struggling, but do you really think he is going to be confident when management decides to give up on him turning it around this year and send him down? Confidence works both ways, and Magnus doesn't seem like a guy that will stop working hard if we just stick with him this year.
The positive is he is good defensively, so when he isn't on his game he isn't a liability. That being said, he needs a spark to get him going, and that may come from a juggling of the lines.
Its common knowledge Hall plays a reckless style. Where other players look to go around, Hall looks to go through. With that comes tumbles. You wouldnt expect Backes or Byfuglien or other power forward types to change their game. The difference is Hall is still a kid in a mans league.
I don't like the premise of this thread and Ive got my locks and chains at the ready. Tread softly.
Didn't Bure play a reckless style? How long was his career?
He needs to choose when to go full out or ease back to 2/3rd's full speed. I'm just afraid of him hitting 88 MPH. You know what happens if he does that?!
Didn't Bure play a reckless style? How long was his career?
He needs to choose when to go full out or ease back to 2/3rd's full speed. I'm just afraid of him hitting 88 MPH. You know what happens if he does that?!
I just need to vent. Almost every single game this year i've seen Peckham play he's either made a HORRIBLE turnover AND had atleast 1 bad penalty. He had a bad penalty tonight that just killed our first period momentum and we just got tooled up on that powerplay. It was lucky that detroit didn't score. He also gave the puck away twice, one leading to a goal and the other that had us hemmed in the zone.
He's made so many bad plays this year I don't think he belongs in the NHL. He's not new, he's been here for a couple years now. You can't learn hockey IQ and skill, and he has neither. Is there a way we can cut ties to him, and if not we should sit him out.
If he is going to get the kind of minutes that he did tonight he may as well be sent down to OKC for a little while, may as well do the same with Lander.
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Haven't we learned anything from Smid? Defencemen take forever to develop. Even though Peckham's probably not going to be as good as Smid, we saw last year and at times this year that he can be very effective in a third-pairing role. There will be many bad nights along the way, but patience will pay off. Let's not throw him under the bus.
He shouldn't play against Chicago, but "cutting ties" is stupid.
Haven't we learned anything from Smid? Defencemen take forever to develop. Even though Peckham's probably not going to be as good as Smid, we saw last year and at times this year that he can be very effective in a third-pairing role. There will be many bad nights along the way, but patience will pay off. Let's not throw him under the bus.
He shouldn't play against Chicago, but "cutting ties" is stupid.
Why should we keep him here if EVERY single game he does something that can COST us a game, can COST us 2 points? We've been lucky that he hasn't costed us more games so far, but wait and see, he WILL cost us points in the long-run. We've seen this off-season that solid defencemen can be found through trades or free agency. Potter, Sutton, and Barker (besides his bonehead penalty last game) have played WAY better than Peckham all season, that's undeniable.
Its true, defencemen take longer to develop but Smid NEVER made the amount of ridiculously bad plays that Peckham has in his career. Smid was also a first round pick, Peckham was a third. If were going to give leeway for defencemen to develop, give it to someone with HIGHER potential like Barker, Teubert, or Klefbom.
To be honest, i find Theo Peckham to be a great defensive D-man. You all may hate him for a few early mistakes, but he is a fairly solid player. Haters gunna hate.
Why should we keep him here if EVERY single game he does something that can COST us a game, can COST us 2 points? We've been lucky that he hasn't costed us more games so far, but wait and see, he WILL cost us points in the long-run. We've seen this off-season that solid defencemen can be found through trades or free agency. Potter, Sutton, and Barker (besides his bonehead penalty last game) have played WAY better than Peckham all season, that's undeniable.
Its true, defencemen take longer to develop but Smid NEVER made the amount of ridiculously bad plays that Peckham has in his career. Smid was also a first round pick, Peckham was a third. If were going to give leeway for defencemen to develop, give it to someone with HIGHER potential like Barker, Teubert, or Klefbom.
You don't remember Smid's constant gaffes? It wasn't that long ago. Hell, his play last season was pretty poor. He cost us games too, but the Oilers stuck by him and now they've got one of the league's best defensive defencemen.
Yes, Peckham's been bad this year. That Kronwall goal was his fault, he made a dangerous pass to centre ice instead of getting it out off the boards. I think that he should be scratched next game. Watching the game from the pressbox and some help from the coaches will help him. But inconsistency is the name of the game when you're developing blueliners. At the start of last year's training camp he was putrid and everybody wanted him gone. And then he had a marvelous season. There will be ups and downs.
I don't know what you mean by Barker's potential. He cost us the game against Boston. He's more experienced than Peckham so I'd give him a shorter leash but even then he hasn't been that bad. They'll both bounce back. As for Teubert, his two NHL games are enough for you to conclude that Peckham is expendable? And Klefbom's only now starting to be a regular member of his SEL team's defence. Had a few games in the second tier team IIRC. What does he have to do with cutting ties with Peckham?
Patience. He's been bad but it's not the end of the world. Hot start notwithstanding, the Oilers aren't a Cup contender. This season is about developing the team's young players, Theo Peckham included.
