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11-11-2011, 08:44 PM
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Elias was 1-for-3 on third period FO after going 7-for-7 in the first and 1-for-4 in the second.

Team through one 69%
Team through two 58%
Team through three 52%

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I know. But that`s his job to help it get better.

I still think it`s personnel, but obviously, part of the issue MUST be coaching. We`re simply not doing the things other teams do and it pisses me off.
What makes it more frustrating is that it's as simple as watching other teams' games.

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Caps PK was about 80% before this game. Probably close to 84% now.
Our entry was just pathetic. Just saying. Nothing new there.

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11-11-2011, 08:46 PM
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It was a problem before Oates too.
Pretty much

In the last 10 years, we've been in the top 10 in the league in PP% just twice and that was in 00-01 (#1 in the league) and 01-02 when we had pretty solid teams

Other than that we've finished above 15th just once which was 09-10 - the other 7 years we were 15th or worse

Iroinically, the year we won the cup in '03, we had the worst PP in the league

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11-11-2011, 08:48 PM
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I lol'd when I saw Zharkov out on the PP.

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Pretty much

In the last 10 years, we've been in the top 10 in the league in PP% just twice and that was in 00-01 (#1 in the league) and 01-02 when we had pretty solid teams

Other than that we've finished above 15th just once which was 09-10 - the other 7 years we were 15th or worse

Iroinically, the year we won the cup in '03, we had the worst PP in the league
Just like the Bruins. The only defensive team to win the Cup since the lockout.

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Our entry was just pathetic. Just saying. Nothing new there.
I'm convinced we need new players for the PP. Faster guys. Guys who can deflect pucks. No more Sykora, no more Clarkson. But that won't happen anytime soon.

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I love how ppl can spout off about Kovy 24/7. But someone creates a Parise thread and it's deleted.

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We beat them tomorrow in their house even better.

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FLA Panthers PP% under DeBoer:

2010-11: 13.11%
2009-10: 14.24%
2008-09: 16.56%

Now is that the lack of talent on those Panthers teams, or coaching? Those aren't very good numbers.
It's been a problem for years prior to DeBoer.

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I vote for guys to improve it.
Not an easy thing to do; aquire a bunch of guys who can work a PP. I think the system needs to be changed. They look like they try too hard to conform to a certain style. They should just play the PP like they play 5 on 5.

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had some decent low work at times.....love watching him play.
Me too. I thought he was great early, but he faded towards the end. Understandable with all the early PK time and how hard they were working.

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It was a problem before Oates too.
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This was a game where we really missed Kovy.
Agreed. Elias and Zach can not handle the minutes Kovy can; though maybe Kovy can't handle those minutes now either.


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I love how ppl can spout off about Kovy 24/7. But someone creates a Parise thread and it's deleted.
It was clearly someone not from this board.

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I love how ppl can spout off about Kovy 24/7. But someone creates a Parise thread and it's deleted.
That was either a dummy thread or a troll thread.

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11-11-2011, 08:53 PM
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Zubrus 23:58 5-for-10 FO
Parise 23:22 0-for-1 FO
Larsson 22:03

Zharkov 4:48 10 shifts
Janssen 3:44 8 shifts 0-for-1 FO
Mills 3:00 6 shifts 2-for-2 FO

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I love how ppl can spout off about Kovy 24/7. But someone creates a Parise thread and it's deleted.
Oh boy if Kovy was a minus 3 in a loss.

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I lol'd when I saw Zharkov out on the PP.
Why not. Not like anything else is working.

Speaking of him, anyone know what his icetime was? Must have been pretty low. I thought he played a very Zharkov like game. He'd be more noticeable if they could capitalize on the PPs he draws...

Edit: Thanks Tao.

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It's been a problem for years prior to DeBoer.



Not an easy thing to do; aquire a bunch of guys who can work a PP. I think the system needs to be changed. They look like they try to hard to conform to a certain style. They should just play the PP like they play 5 on 5.



Me too. I thought he was great early, but he faded towards the end. Understandable with all the early PK time and how hard they were working.



Exactly.



Agreed. Elias and Zach can not handle the minutes Kovy can; though maybe Kovy can't handle those minutes now either.
Let me clear up what I meant with saying guys to improve it.COACHING was my thought.

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Let me clear up what I meant with saying guys to improve it.COACHING was my thought.
Fair enough. We have gone through a few coaches that have been unable to turn it around, though.

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in all honesty, zach has seemed very rusty and very out of it this year. does he miss zajac that much?

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Dat Chimera SHG, shoulda drafted Dougie instead.


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Fair enough. We have gone through a few coaches that have been unable to turn it around, though.
New Coach New System Can't hurt

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Dat Chimera SHG, shoulda drafted Dougie instead.

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Larsson was trying to be Lidstrom there he has pulled off pokechecks like that this year but this time it failed and made himself look real bad.

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