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11-11-2011, 07:55 PM
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Petrell vs Abdelkader

title says it all. him and Abdelkader got 5 for fighting and Petrell got an extra 2 for not removing his "face shield". wtf?

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11-11-2011, 07:58 PM
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It's an unwritten rule.

Edit: lol I guess it's a written rule. I never thought it would be since it is never called


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It's an unwritten rule.
I'm pretty sure it's actually a written rule, I'm just too lazy to look it up. Don't think the refs can give out penalties based on "unwritten" rules.

If you instigate a fight with a visor, you get an additional 2 minutes.

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It's an unwritten rule.
abdelkader has a visor too though

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That's what is supposed to happen but it sometimes gets ignored.

I.E.: the Iginla/Johnson fight earlier this week.

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I'm pretty sure it's actually a written rule, I'm just too lazy to look it up. Don't think the refs can give out penalties based on "unwritten" rules.

If you instigate a fight with a visor, you get an additional 2 minutes.
I think that is in the rulebook too

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title says it all. him and Abdelkader got 5 for fighting and Petrell got an extra 2 for not removing his "face shield". wtf?
The rule is in place because instigating a fight you are forcing a player to fight. In addition, your visor exposes that player to a much higher risk of a hand injury.

Abdelkader had a beautiful hit. Textbook open-ice clean hit.

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11-11-2011, 08:02 PM
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I know but they both have visors....... just a strange rule they never call it

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abdelkader has a visor too though
But he didn't instigate it, he was jumped.

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It's an unwritten rule.
It's a written rule.

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I know but they both have visors....... just a strange rule they never call it
That is irrelevant. Abdelkader would have removed his visor if he wasn't jumped (assuming the Oiler player agrees to remove his). The Oiler player did not allow Abdelkader the chance to remove his visor. However, the Oiler player did increase the possible injury to Abdelkader (his hands) in addition to te original instigator.

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I've never seen that penalty called before.

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I've never seen that penalty called before.
Really? I've seen it called a few times for sure.

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Really? I've seen it called a few times for sure.
Really.

I watch a ton of hockey too.

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Here's the actual rule:

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46.6 Face Protection - If a player penalized as an instigator of an altercation is wearing a face shield (including a goalkeeper), he shall be assessed an additional unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

Should the player (including a goalkeeper) who instigates the fight be wearing a face shield, but removes it before instigating the altercation, the additional unsportsmanlike conduct penalty shall not apply.

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11-11-2011, 08:14 PM
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Really.

I watch a ton of hockey too.
Refs are always ******* for Eastern Conference games.

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def not called much I know that.

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The reason this rule isn't called much is because instigating in general isn't called much. Even in situations where there is a clear aggressor for a fight. But if a guy gets called for instigating and is wearing a visor it's automatic.

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11-11-2011, 08:20 PM
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Good for Petrell to stick up for his teammate.

A Finn with a Swedish name coming to the aid of a Swede with a Finnish name.

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It's certainly not called all too often, but I do remember Crosby took one a couple years ago when he jumped a Florida player off the draw.

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11-13-2011, 10:13 PM
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def not called much I know that.
Thats because its rare guys who wear a visor will go out and actually mug a guy and get an instigator call.

Most times youll see them ditch the lids, or its not a clear instigation but this fight was a guy getting jumped and it was the right call.

Brutal fight but great hit by Abdelkader, hes really starting to come around and developing quite the mean streak. Hes a decent middle weight and only improving

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