It would be like saying well we aren't going to win the SC, might as well tank.
Making the playoffs >>>>> tanking. Specially when Anaheim has a good core already in place.
Do you guys honestly think we can make it? With Hiller exhausted, Ellis done for the year, and JDD a guy that played backup in the AHL to a guy that had 5 GA in his first NHL game? We can lose no more than 4 games. We're DONE.
NHL teams are set up where they will run in the red unless they get a playoff series. playoff appearances result in better season ticket sales the following year. It's unlikely any rookie will make a significant financial impact on this team for 2-3 years minimum. There are plenty of high picks out there not doing much of anything to help their team's success.....
NHL teams are set up where they will run in the red unless they get a playoff series. playoff appearances result in better season ticket sales the following year. It's unlikely any rookie will make a significant financial impact on this team for 2-3 years minimum. There are plenty of high picks out there not doing much of anything to help their team's success.....
There are always exceptions to this, but those are the unique talents.
Who cares about revenue when it's only a series. The team would receive more revenue long term with a Galchenyuk or Forsberg etc in a few years.
How many years until those guys play in the NHL, much less make an impact in team success (leading to revenue)? If you're talking a Yakupov/Grigorenko then sure. But generally other than top-3 or so they typically take much longer. And while top pick talents play right away, it still usually takes awhile for the team to improve.
Team is hard up for cash NOW. Look at attendance. Consider how they're reducing ticket prices next season. If things don't improve there might not be a team here for Galchenyuk/Forsberg to help.
There are always exceptions to this, but those are the unique talents.
Agreed, but the Ducks aren't getting a Crosby or Ovechkin. Hall, Seguin, RNH, Skinner haven't resulted in any significant improvement for their respective teams IMO.
Lol at this convo. We lose 4 more games (fewer depending on how many 3 point games there are) and what playoff discussions do we have at that point? What kind of revenue will we lose in 13-17 games that we didn't already lose in November. The draft isn't a means of generating revenue. I honestly can't believe what I've just been reading. Let's just trade all our draft picks for marketable players right? Who cares if we don't get a Yakupov or Grigorenko? It's about building the team. I'd rather have a Dumba, Trouba, Galchenyuk, Forsberg than a Aberg, Collberg, or Maata and then miss the playoffs. Which in all seriousness, we will.
I'm pointing out the way he's actually spent his money vs just *****ing he doesn't spend enough. That coul be another 10M, which makes it a moot point.
I'm more upset that he won't spend .29% more of his net worth to make the team he bought (for what purpose?) better. If that .29% were my dog, then he ran it over.
I'm more upset that he won't spend .29% more of his net worth to make the team he bought (for what purpose?) better. If that .29% were my dog, then he ran it over.
This is getting a little OT into the financials topic that didn't seem to be appreciated earlier.
But I will say this. You want him to spend another .29% of net worth. 5 million more.
I just felt like trying to translate that to a more relatable level. Samueli is worth 1.7 billion. But that's not his income or anything. That's the sum of all his assets.
So what's our net worth? Being hockey fans, being in Orange County, and being tech-savvy I'd say we're probably above average. So a couple data points. Quick search of median net worth of 35-39 YO is about 300k. Average OC home asking price right now is 400k. Considering we're probably above average... I'll go with a rough net worth of 500k. So Sameuli is a billionaire like we're half millionaires. Now I'm nowhere near that, but I figure it's probably ballpark enough to at least give me some idea.
So Samueli's situation translated to half millionaire is essentially: we're losing $2900 a year for a hobby. You would like us to spend an extra 1500 a year for uncertain results for that hobby. Probably doable, but not without some pain.
Anyways back to the draft topic. Like I said I would prefer to make the playoffs, even if it was a 1st round loss. But I don't believe we will, so yeah I wouldn't mind the team losing big time.
There are always exceptions to this, but those are the unique talents.
I think we're going off topic here and into the owners/finances thread, but I'll keep my response short. In addition to winning is what I was trying to say.
If we get a proven talent out of this draft that makes us better years to come, I will gladly trade that then a one series playoff push this season.
This is getting a little OT into the financials topic that didn't seem to be appreciated earlier.
But I will say this. You want him to spend another .29% of net worth. 5 million more.
I just felt like trying to translate that to a more relatable level. Samueli is worth 1.7 billion. But that's not his income or anything. That's the sum of all his assets.
So what's our net worth? Being hockey fans, being in Orange County, and being tech-savvy I'd say we're probably above average. So a couple data points. Quick search of median net worth of 35-39 YO is about 300k. Average OC home asking price right now is 400k. Considering we're probably above average... I'll go with a rough net worth of 500k. So Sameuli is a billionaire like we're half millionaires. Now I'm nowhere near that, but I figure it's probably ballpark enough to at least give me some idea.
So Samueli's situation translated to half millionaire is essentially: we're losing $2900 a year for a hobby. You would like us to spend an extra 1500 a year for uncertain results for that hobby. Probably doable, but not without some pain.
Anyways back to the draft topic. Like I said I would prefer to make the playoffs, even if it was a 1st round loss. But I don't believe we will, so yeah I wouldn't mind the team losing big time.
You don't think he has better cash flow than your example Joe Homeowner relative to their worth? I would absolutely dispute that.
I think we're going off topic here and into the owners/finances thread, but I'll keep my response short. In addition to winning is what I was trying to say.
If we get a proven talent out of this draft that makes us better years to come, I will gladly trade that then a one series playoff push this season.
And just as quickly trade that for meaningless "pride wins" should we fall short.
For the record I was just saying there could well be an extra 10M in the system next year and so that's relevant to roster discussions.
As far as this year, playoffs are unlikely but I see no reason to tank until they are impossible. At that point bring up Holland and Palmieri but why not fight to the lastinute?
He's the same height as Murray. The latest weight I've read is 175 lbs.
Edit: Make that 183 lbs. Trouba weighs less.
Murray's actually 6'1 and 200 lbs. I've read that Dumba doesn't look like he's 6 ft and is most likely smaller. Just saying.... I still don't think he deserves 2nd overall status
Marc Antoine Godin @MAGodin Répondre Retweeter Favori · Ouvrir
NHL execs from three different teams told me #CBJ are expected to trade their 1st round pick (likely 1st overall) at upcoming draft #yakupov
but if this is true, I wouldn't hesitate to offer
1st 2012
1st 2013
B.Ryan
Palmieri
for the first overall. Not for one second. I'd probably even add to it if necessary.
Marc Antoine Godin @MAGodin Répondre Retweeter Favori · Ouvrir
NHL execs from three different teams told me #CBJ are expected to trade their 1st round pick (likely 1st overall) at upcoming draft #yakupov
but if this is true, I wouldn't hesitate to offer
1st 2012
1st 2013
B.Ryan
Palmieri
for the first overall. Not for one second. I'd probably even add to it if necessary.
